Mom In Adulterous Relationship

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Christ, unlike you and I, had the power to forgive her sins.

He squarely said “neither do I condemn you”.

Why do we so want to condemn people?
 
Did Jesus visit and hang out with sinners, after admonishing them and yet they continued to practice the sin?
We do not know, Scripture is silent except for the accusers who stated that Christ ate and drank with sinners.
 
Show me where I condemned her! I just said that if the OP wants to protect his children from this situation, they could hang out with grandma at a lot of other places! His house, the zoo, parks, the mall, etc.
Stop twisting my words!
 
More than half of the posts here are about condemning, shunning, lecturing and teaching grandma a lesson. There is very, very little mercy in this thread.
 
“Supervised Visitation” is, in US Society, reserved for those who have been convicted of some sort of crime:
No reason the son can’t invite her to dinner and have her know her grandchildren at his house. Or at the zoo, parks, etc.
Condemning grandma of leading children into adultery
What scandal are they being led to? Oh, I don’t know, acceptance of adultery, for one…
And we can split hairs, however, it appears that you are encouraging the “stone her” crowd and calling the “show mercy” posters out. Is that not your intention?

If you believe that grandma, and all of us, deserve mercy, then I misunderstood your responses.
 
Do you think after hearing His message and call, yet did not repent, He hung out and had barbecue’s?

Titus

But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels over the law, for they are unprofitable and futile. As for a man who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is perverted and sinful; he is self-condemned.

I think He acted more like Scripture instructs.
 
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More than half of the posts here are about condemning, shunning, lecturing and teaching grandma a lesson. There is very, very little mercy in this thread.
I love your posts and your wisdom here.

I know on this thread, on this issue we have different views. I think it’s simply a parenting call. Like going to this Grandma’s home. **Some children would be scandalized, others not.**The parents have to choose what decision best fits their children, their lives and parenting style. I don’t think there’s a one-size-fits-all answer. God bless!
I think that’s the problem – the children who aren’t scandalized – who think it’s totally normal for Grandma, whoever to share a house / room / life with a man she isn’t married to.
 
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That’s what has happened over the past 50 yrs.

It has become the norm to consider marriage dissoluble.
 
More than half of the posts here are about condemning, shunning, lecturing and teaching grandma a lesson. There is very, very little mercy in this thread.
The admonishment is the act of mercy. Inviting and encouraging one to repent of sin is the mercy.

Neglecting to help draw the person out of the sin is not mercy.
 
Next time I sin, I pray that those close to me do not have the sort of mercy that not only tells me how bad I am but also tells all of the rest of the family and reminds them to avoid me.
 
Next time I sin, I pray that those close to me do not have the sort of mercy that not only tells me how bad I am but also tells all of the rest of the family and reminds them to avoid me.
The issue isn’t so much sin as exposing children to unrepentant sin.
 
Then I will add, I hope they have the mercy to keep their children far away from me. They might as well just go ahead and do it now, because I am not yet perfect and I do sin.
 
Then I will add, I hope they have the mercy to keep their children far away from me. They might as well just go ahead and do it now, because I am not yet perfect and I do sin.
You clearly missed the unrepentant part - and nobody has suggested not allowing the children to have a relationship with their grandmother at all.
 
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I’m more concerned about the boyfriend. How well does everyone know him… Is he safe?
 
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Children are not adults. There is an obligation to provide the best moral example to those who are learning from us.
The best moral example for a parent is to demonstrate how to love the sinner. We are not morally obligated to cover up people’s sins to prevent people from being scandalized by it. It causes greater scandal when you discover what was covered-up for the sake of controlling your future behavior.

We are not to bear false witness to our children. If this were about him inviting his mother and her boyfriend to spend the night at HIS home on holidays with a shared bedroom, THAT’D be a scandal. But we are talking him and his children being invited to spend the night at her home and him being concerned that he has a duty to cover up her sin.

Certainly, if you’re committing your own sin of adultery, recognizing the scandal your sin creates and keeping your children protected from it by keeping it from their knowledge is a sort of step in the right direction, but it’s an incomplete step, just like contraception is an incomplete step in trying to mitigate the harms of sexual sin.

The largest sin to avoid is vanity, especially spiritual vanity. Caring more about the appearance of virtue than virtue is vanity.

By ostrocizing his mother, HE would be scandalizing his mother and his children. That doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t survive the scandal and still resist sin, but we are NOT modeling Christian behavior. Your behavior should not change because children are present. Your behavior should simply be upright and moral.

Certainly, there are things we cannot adequately explain to our children, but that’s why modeling behavior is important. Children learn more from modeling than from our explanations. We can explain the balance between loving the sinner and hating the sin later. But regardless, like all virtue, the road is narrow. Favoring falling to one side over another is not virtue. As such, we need to recognize that we cannot prevent all falls. We can only help children to recognize that it’s a balancing act and that we’ll probably fall one way or another. We need to recognize, too, what falls we’re culpable for and what ones we’re not.
 
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When I was school age, there was a family who lived nearby whose children engaged in vandalism, stealing, and petty crimes. Would it have been okay for my parents to encourage her kids to routinely associate with them so as to not “ostracize” them and to show love for sinners? Of should mom and dad be more concerned that their own children might imitate their anti-social acts? In any case we were not encouraged to associate with them.
 
Would you remain in a relationship which the Church calls adultery? Without expressing remorse, or a desire to live single?

Would you have a boyfriend who lives with you, and reject the admonishment to Reconcile with God?
 
Not today, however, I do not know what may happen tomorrow. Around me I see people who have their faith shaken and shattered. I would never be so proud as to say that it will never happen to me.
 
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