Money and the severe lack of it

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Hi Kelly:

I know many disagree but I feel it is NOT your problem worrying about money. This is the job of a husband. Maybe the electricity will have to be turned off or you’ll have to show hubby the check you wrote for groceries bounced before he’ll grab onto his responsibility. I’ve been in your shoes, and am now matter of fact. I know it is not easy, rather it’s very hard because wives want to buffer things for their hubbies, but this is not the right thing, IMO of course. Men have become way too lazy, expecting women to pick up their bucket when they put theirs down. It’s terrible. In my case, because my H knows I’m too exhausted to work right now, with the kids and all, house, etc., he has accepted $$ from his mom which has been terrible. Control, etc., But I feel this is his problem all the same.

Good Luck!
 
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sparkle:
Hi Kelly:

I know many disagree but I feel it is NOT your problem worrying about money. This is the job of a husband. Maybe the electricity will have to be turned off or you’ll have to show hubby the check you wrote for groceries bounced before he’ll grab onto his responsibility. I’ve been in your shoes, and am now matter of fact. I know it is not easy, rather it’s very hard because wives want to buffer things for their hubbies, but this is not the right thing, IMO of course. Men have become way too lazy, expecting women to pick up their bucket when they put theirs down. It’s terrible. In my case, because my H knows I’m too exhausted to work right now, with the kids and all, house, etc., he has accepted $$ from his mom which has been terrible. Control, etc., But I feel this is his problem all the same.

Good Luck!
Hi sparkle. Marriage isn’t easy is it?

I always believed that when it comes to marriage, you have to make yourself vulnerable in order to really love someone. Sometimes we get taken advantage of, or we’re hurt very badly, but sometimes we’re in ecstasy because our needs and wants are met. This is a risk we CHOOSE to take. When we wall ourselves off all the time, bad things breed… bitterness, contention, hatred, etc. When we allow ourselves to be open, hurt may come (and usually does) but we already knew that being hurt was a possibility. We are in control of what we do and the choices we make.

Vulnerability doesn’t always make us weak. Jesus allowed himself to be vulnerable to death and look at the outcome of that. Only good came as a result.

We must stand firm in our faith and lean on those who can uphold us when we’re too weak. Read Genesis 17:8-13. There are times we cannot uphold ourselves and need others to help us, especially when we are in dire situations. Moses needed the help of Arron and Hur in order to assure victory and still gave God all the praise in the end.

I understand what you’re saying and yes I feel the same way at times. There are times that I have to pick up the slack (it seems more often than not) but there are those rare times that my husband has actually stepped up to the plate and I was able to lean on him because I was just too weak to go on. When that happens, I know he’s sincere, it’s not a control tactic to just keep me in line and around for a while longer. I have a very close friend who also listens to me when I need her and many times I’ve come here to the forums for prayer and encouragement just so I know I’m not alone or crazy 🙂

My husband wouldn’t be going to professional therapy in order to change his mindset and attitude towards me, our marriage and life in general, if he was only trying to control or appease me.

In Genesis 3:16 we see what a woman’s role is with her husband. My sister in law says it’s our curse…

The Lord God said, “To the woman, he said: ‘I will intensify the pangs of your childbearing; in pain shall you bring forth children. Yet your urge shall be for your husband, and he shall be your master.’”

I tried taking control 8 years ago like you said. If it means having a utility shut off or bank fees to pay from bounced checks to get his attention…let me tell you, it doesn’t work. I tried to force his hand and it backfired on us and I ended up getting more angry at him. We had utitilty companies at our door demanding money, the phone calls from our creditors were nasty, and we got evicted from the apartment. He signed up for the Air Force to make more money. He knew the situation and tried to do what he thought was best. I give him credit for that.

We were forced to move into my parent’s house and not long after he left for boot camp and tech school. He did something that I confess I didn’t do when he was gone, I was too bitter…he prayed for our marriage.

When he came home we filed bankruptcy, got up on our feet and moved out of my parents house 2 months after he was home. It’s been a hard struggle all this time, even after bankruptcy.

We bought our house 5 years ago and our mortgage is cheaper than rent. We refinanced 2 years ago and in 13 years our house is paid.

There are a lot of positives in my life but I tend to focus more on the negatives. That’s something I am working on. I talk to the therapist about that. In order for me to get better, sometimes I need to talk it out, the forums have been a blessing to me.

Marriage is an effort between the both of you, sometimes one more than the other. It’s just hard to see that when the scale on your side is weighed down with so much stuff and his seems to have nothing in it. But in the end, things do even out.

I pray that you will have blessings showered on you, especially in your marriage and that the 2 of you would be strengthened.
 
Kelly…God Bless you! I have been in that boat…sounds like me right down to the WIC…thank God for WIC!!!

One note. Your husbands anxiety is the reason he can’t deal with the bills, I’m sure, because I have anxiety and panic attacks too, and bill paying can really do a person in…it probably causes you alot of panic I’d imagine too.

I read that you recieved WIC and food stamps. Are you aware that you can also get money for college? That is how I dug myself out…went back to school…paid for completely…also I got money for daycare, gas, books, and even a little spending money…everything. Is there something that your husband would rather be doing? Dream a little with him and find out what he might aspire to be. Instead of encouraging him to get another little part time job…encourage him back to school.

I went back when my too youngest were 4 and 1, and I increased my income in four years from $12,000. to $30,000 when I became an x-ray tech…

With the help of God…and our government for that matter (people always complain but not me)…I dug myself out…
 
I am very sorry for the difficulties your family is facing and I will pray for you, but since you share personal information and ask for a response, I venture to offer this observation: the root of the problems you describe does not seem to be the amount of money coming into the family finances, the root of the problems seems to be attitudes about money, work, the respective roles of husband and wife in marriage, and control. I hope you are able to get counselling to resolve these issues.

on a practical note, having lived through similar periods of financial stress, I urge you in strongest possible terms to cut up your credit cards and negotiate lowered payments with your creditors. Credit cards are a recipe for disaster for families in financial crisis.
 
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Lillith:
Kelly…God Bless you! I have been in that boat…sounds like me right down to the WIC…thank God for WIC!!!

One note. Your husbands anxiety is the reason he can’t deal with the bills, I’m sure, because I have anxiety and panic attacks too, and bill paying can really do a person in…it probably causes you alot of panic I’d imagine too.

I read that you recieved WIC and food stamps. Are you aware that you can also get money for college? That is how I dug myself out…went back to school…paid for completely…also I got money for daycare, gas, books, and even a little spending money…everything. Is there something that your husband would rather be doing? Dream a little with him and find out what he might aspire to be. Instead of encouraging him to get another little part time job…encourage him back to school.

I went back when my too youngest were 4 and 1, and I increased my income in four years from $12,000. to $30,000 when I became an x-ray tech…

With the help of God…and our government for that matter (people always complain but not me)…I dug myself out…
I agree with you…with God’s help and with the help of our government we are able to do what we can to dig ourselves out.

Hubby FINALLY got his Associates Degree in May after 15 years! After the baby is born he’ll be going on for his BA in English this January. He wants to teach, he’s not changed his mind about that in all the years I’ve known him. It’s just getting there that’s been a struggle.

I put off school for myself to get him going. I will eventually get back to school, but right now my focus is my children. If he has trouble dealing with the house, work, kids, and school now, it would be much worse if I tried to begin college. I’d rather wait for him to finish before I go back.

He refuses to mess around with the BA degree, he wants more than ever now to get it done. It won’t take 15 years, I won’t let it 😃 . Maybe 3 or 3 1/2 years (he goes part time) but I believe he’ll stick to his guns. It helps that his current job is very lenient with his schedule. He’s not had that before and that’s why he was able to take his last 6 classes this past year to finish his degree. His other jobs didn’t give him flexability for school.

I think it’s fantastic that you were able to do what you did. My problem is I like things done right away…but reality is you can’t eat a whole elephant in one gulp, it takes one bite at a time.

Uggh, I wish I were more patient…but to learn patience, we must go through things that test us.

God bless you.
 
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kellyb32:
I agree with you…with God’s help and with the help of our government we are able to do what we can to dig ourselves out.

Hubby FINALLY got his Associates Degree in May after 15 years! After the baby is born he’ll be going on for his BA in English this January. He wants to teach, he’s not changed his mind about that in all the years I’ve known him. It’s just getting there that’s been a struggle.

I put off school for myself to get him going. I will eventually get back to school, but right now my focus is my children. If he has trouble dealing with the house, work, kids, and school now, it would be much worse if I tried to begin college. I’d rather wait for him to finish before I go back.

He refuses to mess around with the BA degree, he wants more than ever now to get it done. It won’t take 15 years, I won’t let it 😃 . Maybe 3 or 3 1/2 years (he goes part time) but I believe he’ll stick to his guns. It helps that his current job is very lenient with his schedule. He’s not had that before and that’s why he was able to take his last 6 classes this past year to finish his degree. His other jobs didn’t give him flexability for school.

I think it’s fantastic that you were able to do what you did. My problem is I like things done right away…but reality is you can’t eat a whole elephant in one gulp, it takes one bite at a time.

Uggh, I wish I were more patient…but to learn patience, we must go through things that test us.

God bless you.
It’s awesome that your husband has teaching English as his goal. Just to be aware though, most states require that he either major in elementary or secondary education with a minor in English–OR, if he wants to teach at the college level, to get a masters degree.

In the few states I have worked in, having a degree in a subject (with the exception being Theology) does not make them eligible to teach. 😦 State requirements usually require a teaching degree and certification.

I only say this to make your husband aware, just in case! 🙂
 
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kellyb32:
I agree with you…with God’s help and with the help of our government we are able to do what we can to dig ourselves out.

Hubby FINALLY got his Associates Degree in May after 15 years! After the baby is born he’ll be going on for his BA in English this January. He wants to teach, he’s not changed his mind about that in all the years I’ve known him. It’s just getting there that’s been a struggle.

I put off school for myself to get him going. I will eventually get back to school, but right now my focus is my children. If he has trouble dealing with the house, work, kids, and school now, it would be much worse if I tried to begin college. I’d rather wait for him to finish before I go back.

He refuses to mess around with the BA degree, he wants more than ever now to get it done. It won’t take 15 years, I won’t let it 😃 . Maybe 3 or 3 1/2 years (he goes part time) but I believe he’ll stick to his guns. It helps that his current job is very lenient with his schedule. He’s not had that before and that’s why he was able to take his last 6 classes this past year to finish his degree. His other jobs didn’t give him flexability for school.

I think it’s fantastic that you were able to do what you did. My problem is I like things done right away…but reality is you can’t eat a whole elephant in one gulp, it takes one bite at a time.

Uggh, I wish I were more patient…but to learn patience, we must go through things that test us.

God bless you.
Well, then Kelly…you have a future and a hope!!! That is awesome! Hang on to that! You will make it through, have as much Faith in God as you can muster…hold on to that dream and one day at a time you will get there…I am so glad to hear this…heck your almost there! Your husband is working toward that goal…by reading your initial post I was afraid you might have to start at square one!
 
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puzzleannie:
I am very sorry for the difficulties your family is facing and I will pray for you, but since you share personal information and ask for a response, I venture to offer this observation: the root of the problems you describe does not seem to be the amount of money coming into the family finances, the root of the problems seems to be attitudes about money, work, the respective roles of husband and wife in marriage, and control. I hope you are able to get counselling to resolve these issues.

on a practical note, having lived through similar periods of financial stress, I urge you in strongest possible terms to cut up your credit cards and negotiate lowered payments with your creditors. Credit cards are a recipe for disaster for families in financial crisis.
Oh you are exactly right! That’s why we are both going to therapy with a psychologist. There’s A LOT of history between the 2 of us and from our own backgrounds that have caused much of our problems. We’re willing to face the things we’ve done wrong, what we’re still doing wrong and are both sincerely trying to fix the damage that we both caused in this marriage.

We have 2 credit cards, one is his, one is mine. One of the biggest problems with the credit card debt is that hubby INSISTED last year that we buy a different car. He found one he liked from a used car salesman (not a dealership) and jumped into this purchase even though I protested it. Since the guy wanted over $200 a month for a payment and my husband was only making about $500 a month at the time…that wasn’t realistic. The credit card offered him monthly payments of around $90 a month and 3% interest. So he bought the car on credit. It was a lemon that decided to wait for any problems to happen until after the warantee and state’s lemon law were done. We had to put almost another grand into the car to keep it running.

Then of course using the card to buy some necessities each month, added up all the more. In the end, we traded the car and got a used Grand Voyager from a local dealership after I got pregnant this year. But our credit card debt is still there because of the car my husband insisted we have and we are still paying for a vehicle that we no longer own. My husband regrets his decision but I don’t rub his face in it. We consolidated both cards into one with a 2% interest rate already. We’ve only used it these past couple of months when we had no other option and even then it wasn’t for huge purchases. I don’t want to get into the same boat we were in 8 years ago.

There is a light at the end of the tunnel for us…I just have trouble seeing it sometimes and need a reality check along with encouragement from those who know what I’m going through.

Thanks for answering me. God bless.
 
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Princess_Abby:
It’s awesome that your husband has teaching English as his goal. Just to be aware though, most states require that he either major in elementary or secondary education with a minor in English–OR, if he wants to teach at the college level, to get a masters degree.

In the few states I have worked in, having a degree in a subject (with the exception being Theology) does not make them eligible to teach. 😦 State requirements usually require a teaching degree and certification.

I only say this to make your husband aware, just in case! 🙂
He works for a company that is contracted by our local school board to do computers for each of the city’s schools. He talks to teachers and administration on a daily basis (except for July). They have all told him that he can begin teaching as a sub even though he may not have his certification yet. Once he gets his certification there’s a greater chance of him getting in full time (which is what his goal is and will get certified first). Once he is teaching they give him a certain period of time to get his Masters. Some of the teachers that he’s talked to, including our daughter’s who just began teaching around 4 or 5 years ago, were either just finishing or just starting their Masters Degrees.

Everyone tells him that the district is desperate for older male teachers (hubby’s 37), no matter what their major is in. But things won’t happen until he has his BA.

He could be a Teacher’s Assistant with the Associates Degree that he got but he’d be making less money than he is now so he chooses to stay where he’s at because he still has connections with what’s happening in the schools.

God places us where we need to be even though we may not understand why we’re there. I’m finally realizing this.

God bless!
 
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Lillith:
Well, then Kelly…you have a future and a hope!!! That is awesome! Hang on to that! You will make it through, have as much Faith in God as you can muster…hold on to that dream and one day at a time you will get there…I am so glad to hear this…heck your almost there! Your husband is working toward that goal…by reading your initial post I was afraid you might have to start at square one!
Hey Lillith…yeah, I tend to be a doomsday prophet when depression sets in. In the course of talking things through, because Lord knows I can’t talk to my husband 99% of the time, the fog starts to lift and light begins to shine again.

The one thing I can say about us is that we both refuse to go backwards. It’s nervewracking at times because when things come to a halt (like they have recently) I get scared of regressing and desperately reach for anything and everything that would help me out.

On a note of good news…hubby talked to boss this morning about the money situation. Boss really didn’t pay attention to the fact that the raise and cut hours made us lose money. Hubby is now going to get his 40 hours a week back but will not get the raise like expected. Hubby said he didn’t care, at least he’s got a job. Another thing is my husband kissed me lovingly when he came home for lunch and told me that he’s so glad that he has me for his wife. He thanked me for being there for him even when he pushes me away. He said he doesn’t overlook the things I do, it just takes him time to come around me.

I can’t begin to tell everyone how thankful I am to all of you for the prayers you’ve said since I put up the original post. Hopefully what happened today is proof that all of your prayers were heard.

Things look like they are beginning to inch forward again. I just hope that I can deal with things better than I have. I’m trying but I know I fail a lot. It’s so scary when you have little ones to take care of and another on the way.

I’m grateful that I have people like all of you who answered me, give me advice, encouragement, and above all prayers to help me through.

I pray the Lord would bless each of you and strengthen you all. You’ve ministered to me and I hope I could do the same for you if you ever need it.

God bless.
 
Hi Kelly. Hope you’re having a good day. Just would like to recommend a marvelous book that really helped give me a new and very accurate and Godly perspective on marriage. It’s called “Fascinating Womanhood” by Helen Andelin. You can order it at any Barnes and Noble. It really stresses God given roles. I hope it helps you as it has me. It really provides something to strive for in marriage and makes you aware of how clearly, there are roles God gives a man and a woman. How when we deviate from them, try to overlap them, all chaos breaks out. In essence, it gives us women, guidelines on how to be feminine nurturers, and encourage our men to be the efficient providers God requires them to be. It’s hard in today’s world when the women’s lib movement tells us women, we should be doing it all, (NONSENSE). It’s a very good read all the same. And what awesome responses everyone has given you hereinabove. Don’t ever forget, there’s always hope! And God Loves You~~:D

P.S. I just would like to say, it wasn’t until my H was faced with the water and power man at our door at 7:00 a.m. , and the embarassment it caused him with all my kids coming to the door peering, and inquiring…a few months ago, that he really got off his duff and found a job**

God Bless Kelly~~
 
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kellyb32:
He works for a company that is contracted by our local school board to do computers for each of the city’s schools. He talks to teachers and administration on a daily basis (except for July). They have all told him that he can begin teaching as a sub even though he may not have his certification yet. Once he gets his certification there’s a greater chance of him getting in full time (which is what his goal is and will get certified first). Once he is teaching they give him a certain period of time to get his Masters. Some of the teachers that he’s talked to, including our daughter’s who just began teaching around 4 or 5 years ago, were either just finishing or just starting their Masters Degrees.

Everyone tells him that the district is desperate for older male teachers (hubby’s 37), no matter what their major is in. But things won’t happen until he has his BA.

He could be a Teacher’s Assistant with the Associates Degree that he got but he’d be making less money than he is now so he chooses to stay where he’s at because he still has connections with what’s happening in the schools.

God places us where we need to be even though we may not understand why we’re there. I’m finally realizing this.

God bless!
I am so happy to hear he has a foot in the door. That is really wonderful.

And yes, most substitute teachers only need 60 hours of college credit, which is equivalent to an Associates Degree. Yay. 🙂

I’m sure one comfort for you is the knowledge that he “has a plan” in the works! 👍
 
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kellyb32:
I can’t begin to tell everyone how thankful I am to all of you for the prayers you’ve said since I put up the original post. Hopefully what happened today is proof that all of your prayers were heard.

Things look like they are beginning to inch forward again. I just hope that I can deal with things better than I have. I’m trying but I know I fail a lot. It’s so scary when you have little ones to take care of and another on the way.

I’m grateful that I have people like all of you who answered me, give me advice, encouragement, and above all prayers to help me through.

I pray the Lord would bless each of you and strengthen you all. You’ve ministered to me and I hope I could do the same for you if you ever need it.

God bless.
:clapping: I’m so glad you are feeling a little better. You sound so much like me and obviously others here too. We can do so much good when we all support each other! Even though you were the one reaching out, your posts have probably helped other people too! God’s grace is at work here!

:blessyou:
 
legeorge said:
:clapping: I’m so glad you are feeling a little better. You sound so much like me and obviously others here too. We can do so much good when we all support each other! Even though you were the one reaching out, your posts have probably helped other people too! God’s grace is at work here!

:blessyou:

Yes, indeed! Well put legeorge! Thx. Yes, God’s grace is at work here, which is so neat. Many of us are or have been in someone else’s shoes at one time or another, so we can help each other out.
God Bless Kelly if you’re reading this, and I really hope you find the book I mentioned. Let me know what you think of it. It has opened my eyes tremendously.!!!
 
Dear Friend, I know exactly what you are going through. I am there every and each month. I have been married 19yrs and have been struggling more than have the time. We have 4 children. I am always behind on bills. I am the only one who takes care of the finances in the fam. So as you know we have the building on our heads. Or it sure feels that way. I
understand you. I will pray for you. Please pray for me.
If you can please write me.
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God Bless,

baby to buy things for.

I’ve had to use the credit card, much to my displeasure, to buy a lot of our necessities over the last 2 months because we just simply didn’t have the cash. We only made $700 for the month of July, combined income (I’m a bookkeeper so I can work from home). That put us back horribly. I’m still trying to play catch up.

My husband won’t take care of the bills because as he’s told me numerous times that he’s got enough to deal with.

He’s the main reason I’m seeking therapy to help me cope with our situation and his whole attitude towards me.

I wish that there was a way for us to increase our income. I told my husband all we need is about 600-700 dollars more each month for us to begin getting out of debt and not having to use the credit card for any purchases.

That’s not a lot of money, but it’s impossible for me to convince him to find a part time job for 15 hours a week, even if it’s only temporary. He wouldn’t make the amount we need, but at least it would help us out somewhat. He just refuses, end of story. Discussing it isn’t an option anymore.

So in a nutshell, I’m just asking for prayer mostly. I need wisdom and peace about our situation. There is nothing that we can cut out of our spending. We haven’t gone on a date alone to see a movie or have dinner in over a year. Treating the kids to a happy meal is a luxury. We only have one vehicle. Neither of us have gone clothes shopping since before we were married. Now we go to the Salvation Army if we need something. If it weren’t for the clothes given to my kids at birthdays and christmas, they would be wearing clothes from the salvation army too. I cut my kids and my husband’s hair. I get my hair cut maybe once or twice a year. This is just a few of the ways we cut corners to avoid spending money.

I know how to support a family of 5 on $18,000 a year. It’s just I’m really tired of shuffling bills around to see who’ll take a small payment this month so I can pay off someone else just so we don’t lose our utilites or credit rating.

Thanks for letting me vent. I know that it’s easy to say things will get better…but I’ve been dealing with the same kind of stuff in my marriage for 13 years now. I’m worn out. People always tell me, “you just need to concern yourself with delivering a healthy baby.”

I wish it were that easy…

Please pray for us.

Thank you.

dMaria
 
Let’s see: your husband only works 35 hours a week, but he doesn’t have time to learn anything else or do anything else.

You might check you real estate portfolio; he’s been selling you a bridge.

His boss suggests that he shouldn’t take another parttime job?

I doubt it. As in, I am coming real close to calling him a liar.

Anxiety and panic attacks can be real, and can be disabling. But they can also be something to hid behind.

I think it is closer to say that he is just giving up. Both you nad he may need some real, heart to heart counseling.
 
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sparkle:
Yes, indeed! Well put legeorge! Thx. Yes, God’s grace is at work here, which is so neat. Many of us are or have been in someone else’s shoes at one time or another, so we can help each other out.
God Bless Kelly if you’re reading this, and I really hope you find the book I mentioned. Let me know what you think of it. It has opened my eyes tremendously.!!!
I read a small exerpt online from Randomhouse.com this evening. Looks interesting.

Some reviews I read were negative, but others couldn’t stop giving the book kudos for the help it offered. They even have a class you can take based on the book.

I will try to get to the library to find it. Until then my therapist has offered some suggestions for me to try. They seem to be working. In a nutshell, don’t be the victim, be more assertive but not critical at the same time.

Hey, it took years for us to get where we are and if we are going to change, it’s not going to happen overnight. Walls were built that need to come down, trust was broken that needs to be gained again, the wounds are deep but scars do fade after a while.

We’ll get there. God has seen us this far. We’re both to stubborn to go anywhere, that would mean admitting defeat 🙂 and neither of us are ready to give up easily on our marriage or each other.

When my daughter said she doesn’t understand how I put up for things for so long, I explained to her that commitment means sticking by someone through thick and thin. We may argue but we’re learning how to talk instead of yell. I asked if she thought her father was a bad man. She of course said no. I told her he doesn’t hit me or any of them, he’s not one to call me names or humilate me. I explained in a way she could understand that he just needs to learn how to be less selfish and more loving, compassionate and empathetic instead of cold, uncaring and indifferent. I said that’s why he’s going to the doctor, to learn how to change and be those things. We have to be patient, forgive him when he upsets us, and most of all pray. He’ll come around now sooner than later or not at all. I know he’s trying that’s why I won’t give up on him and I don’t want him to give up on me.

She understood and that’s what I hoped for.

God bless!
 
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otm:
Let’s see: your husband only works 35 hours a week, but he doesn’t have time to learn anything else or do anything else.

You might check you real estate portfolio; he’s been selling you a bridge.

His boss suggests that he shouldn’t take another parttime job?

I doubt it. As in, I am coming real close to calling him a liar.

Anxiety and panic attacks can be real, and can be disabling. But they can also be something to hid behind.

I think it is closer to say that he is just giving up. Both you nad he may need some real, heart to heart counseling.
If you were able to read the one post of mine (and yes there are tons on this topic 🙂 ) I relayed the news about my husband talking to his boss today and getting 40 hours again although he won’t get the raise, plus they’re giving him a couple of days off with pay, something the company doesn’t offer employees, since a raise isn’t possible with 40 hours a week. He’s a good worker and they know it, so his boss wants to try to do what he can without upsetting the owner who happens to be the boss’s daddy. It’s a decent job with decent people and it’s close to home so he doesn’t have to worry about commuting a half hour or more to work and back.

Also, my husband is going to school, he’s just finished his Associates Degree this May and will continue with his Bachelors in English come January.

He’s not giving up, if he were he wouldn’t have been in therapy these last few months and he would’ve quit his job out of discouragement (something he used to do in years past, but not since we’ve had our other children.)

He’s growing up finally and has some goals set, that’s why he’s going to school when he can.

Yeah, I know he’s got his faults, and yes sometimes I don’t trust his judgement and don’t like the decisions he makes, but I have to back off and let him learn the hard way at times without throwing things up in his face if things go wrong. I also have to humble myself if by chance his decision was right and things work out fine even though my reasoning seemed better than his at the crucial point.

Like I said in a post to sparkle, I’m not giving up on us, and neither is he, our marriage has come this far by the grace of God, we aren’t letting go that easy.

God bless!
 
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kellyb32:
Hey, it took years for us to get where we are and if we are going to change, it’s not going to happen overnight. Walls were built that need to come down, trust was broken that needs to be gained again, the wounds are deep but scars do fade after a while.

We’ll get there. God has seen us this far. We’re both to stubborn to go anywhere, that would mean admitting defeat 🙂 and neither of us are ready to give up easily on our marriage or each other.

When my daughter said she doesn’t understand how I put up for things for so long, I explained to her that commitment means sticking by someone through thick and thin. We may argue but we’re learning how to talk instead of yell. I asked if she thought her father was a bad man. She of course said no. I told her he doesn’t hit me or any of them, he’s not one to call me names or humilate me. I explained in a way she could understand that he just needs to learn how to be less selfish and more loving, compassionate and empathetic instead of cold, uncaring and indifferent. I said that’s why he’s going to the doctor, to learn how to change and be those things. We have to be patient, forgive him when he upsets us, and most of all pray. He’ll come around now sooner than later or not at all. I know he’s trying that’s why I won’t give up on him and I don’t want him to give up on me.

She understood and that’s what I hoped for.

God bless!
Good for you! I especially loved what you told your daughter. She will remember what you said. It is amazing what our daughters internalize–in particular, the words spoken with love, forgiveness, and hope for others. God bless you for your perseverance. Your strength and prayers will see you through.:gopray2:
 
We had some serious money problems when our kids were little, and still aren’t esp. wealthy, due to enforeced early retirement. Something that I did that may or may not work for you was to use cloth diapers a lot at home. This only works if you have your own washer and dryer I think. I put a little bleach and water in the botton of a pail with a lid. Rinsed poopy ones in the toilet before putting in pail. When it was full, poured entire contents of pail into washer and put on spin rinse and then washed in hot water. After they were dry, just put in a basket, folded or not. This didn’t take much time/effort and save a lot of $$$ over 4 kids. Also, don’t feel bad about buying children’s clothes at thrift shops. I believe they can be a very good value, esp. if the shop gets its items from a well-off crowd, so to speak. You are doing so many good things, esp. getting counseling early on.
 
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