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I’m trying to find an answer to a moral dilemma & maybe some of you can help me. I don’t know whether this is the correct forum for this kind of thing. If it isn’t, please feel free to move it moderators.

On Christmas night I took a new prescription, as directed on the bottle. My doctor had said to take 3 of these pills before bed. I did & I got horribly sick about two hours later. I felt as if electrical shocks were coursing through my body, yet I could not wake up enough to do much at bout it. I was able to wake my husband up. He took me to the Emergency Room at 2AM & there began more horror. I don’t remember much of what happened, but my husband & my daughter (he’d called her) have told me a lot. The ER, people could not wake me, either. I sometimes could hear my voice & it sounded strange, the words were slurred & sometimes made no sense.

The ER doctor told my family that I’d had a stroke. I’m 68 yrs. old & can remember wondering about that myself. I was admitted into the hospital & put through several tests. I was subjected to an MRI, after I began to become more alert… HORRIBLE!! for someone with a touch of claustraphobia…I had a Cat Scan, an EKG. & a sonogram.

Later, my doctor came to my room, asked me what I had done the night before that was different than I usually did. I told him that I’d taken my new prescription. My wonderful husband had grabbed the new bottle of pitlls & another bottle that I regularly take & stuck them in his pocket before we left home & the doctor asked to see them. He immediately knew the answer…the prescription had been written for 10mg. tablets, but had been
filled with
**100mg. tablets **by mistake. Instead of taking a total of 30mg., I had followed the directions on the bottle & taken **300 mg. **

After some detective work. we learned that the mistake had been made at the pharmacy & they admitted to that. It’s a big “chain-type” pharmacy & it gave me no problem when I, days later, went to talk to them about paying for the hospital stay & all of those tests. In fact they said that my doctor had called them about the mistake & were expecting me. They told me that they carry a malpractice insurance for just such mistakes.

Now, here’s my problem. My daughter (who is a district manager for an insurance co.) said that I should also ask for $3,000. for “pain & suffering”. While I had PLENTY of that, as did my family, It doesn’t “feel right” to ask for recompense. I’m asking myself, what does God want me to
do & I’m not getting an answer. I would appreciate some advice as I have to give my answer this week.
 
you should put the whole thing in the hands of an attorney whose job it is to make these determinations. Your medical insurance company, who is most likely the one to need financial reimbursement, will probably have a lawyer. This in no way prevents you from getting your own lawyer to protect your interests in case you have more suffering down the road due to this incident. Morality does not enter into any of this since no one at any time made a deliberate choice to do a sinful action.
 
You are not morally bound either way. You may choose not to ask for any money for pain and suffering, and offer that cross to God. Or you could morally choose to ask for that compensation, since it is just.
 
I am not a sue-happy person & have never done so, so am not going to advise one way or another on that. What I do feel that is important is that you get an attorney to protect your interests in case there are unforeseen side-effects down the road. If you don’t have that covered, then you would be responsible for costs if you have signed off prior to that.
 
Good answers.

Just make sure if you contact an attorney that they do not have the “ambulance chasing” mentality. Some are in it just for the money; the more you successfully win in a lawsuit, the more they make.

I think if you make it clear what you want out of this an are rather firm about it, most ethical attorneys will tell you that a reasonable compensation for damages is likely to be settled out of court, which is best for everyone.

I’d also ditto that someone qualified to do so needs to look into whether or not there are likely to be medical care costs associated with such an overdose. $3000 would evaporate in a flash; medical costs for some conditions can run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars over time, and once the case is settled, it’s settled for good. If you have symptoms later on after you’re settled, too bad for you.

Bottom line is that methinks an ethical attorney familiar with such cases should be contacted to represent your interests. Hope you make a full recovery. 👍
 
I agree, get an attorney, not because you’re ‘sue happy’ but to look out for yourself legally, because everyone else will be looking out for themselves legally in this. You probably won’t want to deal with attorneys for the insurance company, the hospital, the pharmacy, etc… let your attorney deal with all of that so you don’t have the stress. Trust me, dealing with attorneys all looking out for their clients is stressful if you don’t have one looking out for you.
I had a heart attack/stroke myself at 37, didn’t get an attorney and I think I had about 300% more stress than I could have had if I had just gotten an attorney to deal with it all.
On a more personal note… WOW! Your story scares me. I’ll for sure be checking my prescription bottles in the future before taking any meds!
It seems like you’re doing better based on your typing on here, I pray that you continue feeling better, and that your healing process is speedy and not stressful 🙂
Rachel
 
Excellent advice so far. I would also suggest that if you receive compensation and you don’t feel that you need it then you could donate the money to charity.

I am so glad that you are well now! It’s important to check presecriptions if you can. Remember, some drugs in the wrong dosage can kill. My heart medication falls into that category.

God Bless
 
Yes, absolutely get a reputable attorney and follow the attorney’s advice. The pharmacy and their insurance company will want to settle as quickly and as cheaply as possible. They have skilled attorneys paid to do just that. If you work with them directly, you’ll be way out of your league. Practically speaking, you don’t know what long-term affects this may have on you, either. “Pain and suffering” damages should take that into account.

If you’re concerned about the morality of taking advantage of the situation, you’d probably be most comfortable with a Catholic attorney. Look on the back of your church bulletin; bulletins are usually paid for by the ads of parishioners who have local businesses. Call the Knights of Columbus in your area and ask for the names of Knights who are attorneys.

Here are two websites you might check out. Their purpose is pro bono work, but they have referral resources, too:

americancatholiclawyers.org/

catholiclawyers.net/aboutus/

God bless you!
 
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Now, here’s my problem. My daughter (who is a district manager for an insurance co.) said that I should also ask for $3,000. for “pain & suffering”. While I had PLENTY of that, as did my family, It doesn’t “feel right” to ask for recompense. I’m asking myself, what does God want me to
do & I’m not getting an answer. I would appreciate some advice as I have to give my answer this week.
Wow, CradleCath! I find your moral dilemma to be very honorable. Most people in our litigation happy nation are looking for every chance to make a quick buck.

I don’t have an answer, but I think you came to a great place to ask. May God keep you healthy and blessed in this new year and decade.
 
I guess I’m the lone gal out on this one. I would expect payment to compensate for any costs I incurred, including time I would have spent doing something else (volunteering, working, time with family, etc.). But beyond that, I wouldn’t ask for anything. If they offered something, I might accept and use it as a donation to a good charity.

By the way, if they offer something, be sure there are no strings - like if future related medical issues arise, they will still be held liable.
 
By the way, if they offer something, be sure there are no strings - like if future related medical issues arise, they will still be held liable.
I’m not an attorney but I don’t think it can be worked out that way; when a case is settled, it’s settled for good. Otherwise, it would happen that less honorable people than the OP would claim that it was their fault that X, Y or Z happened in the future.

That’s also why medical awards are frequently so large; for expected medical expenses. No company could continue to operate (or be insured) without knowing with their future liabilities in question.
 
you should put the whole thing in the hands of an attorney whose job it is to make these determinations. Your medical insurance company, who is most likely the one to need financial reimbursement, will probably have a lawyer. This in no way prevents you from getting your own lawyer to protect your interests in case you have more suffering down the road due to this incident. **Morality does not enter into any of this since no one at any time made a deliberate choice to do a sinful action./**QUOTE]

For me, morality comes into play when & if I ask for compensation for pain & suffering (or punitive damages). It’s one thing to ask to be reimbursed for expense incurred, but making money from some one’s mistake somehow feels uncomfortable. However, I do thank you for the advice about getting a lawyer & being mindful of the fact that the incident may have long-lasting effects.
 
Wow, CradleCath! I find your moral dilemma to be very honorable. Most people in our litigation happy nation are looking for every chance to make a quick buck.

I don’t have an answer, but I think you came to a great place to ask. May God keep you healthy and blessed in this new year and decade.
Thank you so much. I just find it difficult to be making money that I haven’t earned. I have no doubts about the pharmacy’s insurance co. paying for the expenses I incurred, it’s the “pain & suffering” thing that’s bothering me.
 
I think you have “earned” it, not only because you’ve been a victim of medical irresponsibility that endangered your life, but in how it will affect your health and quality of life in the future. Letting responsible companies off the hook easily encourages laxity and mistakes. How will they be held accountable if not through punitive settlements? That’s the language they understand. The only thing corporations value is the bottom line. The more they have to dig into their pockets to pay for costly and dangerous mistakes, either directly or through increasing malpractice insurance costs, the more anxious they’ll be to implement safety measures.
 
I just want to tell **everyone of you **who have posted that I’m sitting here with tears in my eyes. I just can’t believe how helpful you’ve all been. My decision has been made & all of you have played a part in it. I’m going to ask for a modest amount of “pain & suffering” money $3-5000…just in case. I hadn’t really thought about future treatment & I’ve already got 3 appts. with the doctor just to follow up on this. He’s still worried about my blood pressure as it’s not near normal yet. I have to see him this Tues. , the next Tues. & my final? visit is set for Jan. 22, unless…

I’m also considering hiring an attorney IF necessary. Right now the pharmacy is being totally helpful, but I haven’t heard from their insurance co., yet. If that kind attitude should change, I will have to have legal help. Another thing that I forgot to tell you was that my husband just took me to the closest hospital & it’s not on our insurance network. We would have had to go 60 miles to the hospital that is. I have no idea what the cost is for an MRI., an EKG, a sonogram & a Cat scan PLUS the expenses of the ER. & actually being admitted to the hospital…but I expect it’s quite a bit.

Thank you all for the helpful advice & most of all for caring.
 
For me, morality comes into play when & if I ask for compensation for pain & suffering (or punitive damages). It’s one thing to ask to be reimbursed for expense incurred, but making money from some one’s mistake somehow feels uncomfortable. However, I do thank you for the advice about getting a lawyer & being mindful of the fact that the incident may have long-lasting effects.
there is nothing immoral about seeking damages for pain and suffering, if you endured pain and suffering due to someone’s negligence.
 
I agree, get an attorney, not because you’re ‘sue happy’ but to look out for yourself legally, because everyone else will be looking out for themselves legally in this. You probably won’t want to deal with attorneys for the insurance company, the hospital, the pharmacy, etc… let your attorney deal with all of that so you don’t have the stress. Trust me, dealing with attorneys all looking out for their clients is stressful if you don’t have one looking out for you.
I had a heart attack/stroke myself at 37, didn’t get an attorney and I think I had about 300% more stress than I could have had if I had just gotten an attorney to deal with it all.
On a more personal note… WOW! Your story scares me. I’ll for sure be checking my prescription bottles in the future before taking any meds!
It seems like you’re doing better based on your typing on here, I pray that you continue feeling better, and that your healing process is speedy and not stressful 🙂
Rachel
It scared me too!!! From now on, I’ll check with my doctor about mg.'s before I EVER take a new med again!!!

Also, if I have anyone give me problems about settling this, I will get an attorney. We have a friend who is a lawyer, he went to high school with my husband & attends daily Mass. He is definitely an honest man.
 
It scared me too!!! From now on, I’ll check with my doctor about mg.'s before I EVER take a new med again!!!

Also, if I have anyone give me problems about settling this, I will get an attorney. We have a friend who is a lawyer, he went to high school with my husband & attends daily Mass. He is definitely an honest man.
Good deal! I’m praying for you 🙂
 
I think you have “earned” it, not only because you’ve been a victim of medical irresponsibility that endangered your life, but in how it will affect your health and quality of life in the future. Letting responsible companies off the hook easily encourages laxity and mistakes. How will they be held accountable if not through punitive settlements? That’s the language they understand. The only thing corporations value is the bottom line. The more they have to dig into their pockets to pay for costly and dangerous mistakes, either directly or through increasing malpractice insurance costs, the more anxious they’ll be to implement safety measures.
Yeah, but honest mistakes will always happen. We have to be careful not to:
  1. Assume that “sticking it to Big Drug Companies” will change their attitude towards such mistakes just being a routine part of business.
  2. Assume that anyone thinks such mistakes are acceptable. They’re in business to help people through the development and sale of medications; such mistakes are not only hazardous to the individual consumer but bad for business.
  3. Assume that the drug and insurance companies will eat such awards and not pass on the costs to consumers in one way or another. That’s one of the reasons that newer drugs cost so much and take so long to get to market; safety.
But we’re primarily talking not about new drugs here and drug company profits, but a human mistake in filling a prescription. Perhaps it was an honest mistake, perhaps an error of incompetance.

You ever try to read a doctor’s handwriting? Not to make excuses in this particular case or in general, but as veterinarian I have a pharmacy license and make it a point to be familiar with the drugs my physician may prescribe for me. Most times I am at a loss at how most pharmacists are able to properly read and fill prescriptions from the scribbling on the script.

Perhaps there will be a system in the future that will decrease errors. Many hospitals are going paperless as are many doctor’s offices. Many scripts go out electronically.

Bottom line is that as long as humans are involved in the drug chain of events, there will be errors and we need to ask questions; ask your doctor what “antibiotic” he or she is prescribing, the strength and how often you’re supposed to take it. Verify this at the pharmacy when you pick it up. Not all mistakes can be prevented in this way, but we need to be aware and be our own health advocates.
 
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