Ok. Let’s take this example: you have a very obnoxious BIL who professes that white people are the chosen people. He’s preaching this to his children, and also refuses to sit beside and eat with your wife who’s black.
Thank you for demostrating very nicely, relative morality. It not good for anything, except to justify ones own behavior, or to condone behaviors of other you happen to agree with.
Actually, I think I just got it! :newidea:
As long as he’s not a physical threat, it’s not against the law to be an a-hole.Ok. Let’s take this example: you have a very obnoxious BIL who professes that white people are the chosen people. He’s preaching this to his children, and also refuses to sit beside and eat with your wife who’s black.
Do you just let him go on the path he’s on and live his life and you live yours?
Sorry, I’m being obtuse. Again. What do you mean?
So you’re ok with racists then? I’m not following you.
No, I’m not ok with it - I think it wrong but I don’t think it is necessary or possible to dictate thought. If they aren’t a physical threat or breaking the law what are you going to do?So you’re ok with racists then? I’m not following you.
-“it’s not against the law.” Clearly. One can be quite obnoxious and legal. The point is, of course, do you tolerate such behavior? What’s that saying? *The only thing for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. * Or something like that.
Oh, your wife is going to love that reasoning! And your children, too.
I don’t judge myself by how others think of me. I don’t think my theoretical wife and children do either. I teach my children self respect, not external confirmation.Oh, your wife is going to love that reasoning! And your children, too.
“Mommy, why doesn’t Daddy say something to Uncle Noxy? Why do you have to be the one to say, ‘You are wrong in your beliefs.’? We think that Daddy doesn’t really believe that Uncle Noxy is wrong.”
Sorry missed the brother in law part - He wouldn’t be allowed in my house. I wouldn’t go family functions that he was at. I don’t need that in my life.-“it’s not against the law.” Clearly. One can be quite obnoxious and legal. The point is, of course, do you tolerate such behavior? What’s that saying? *The only thing for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. * Or something like that.
Those who simply look away at very evil things are, really, complicit in the evil.
And I’m wondering how your wife would react to your tolerance of this BIL who refuses to sit by her. “But honey, it’s not against the law for him to not want to sit by you!” I can feel the love radiating from her right now!
Your last statement is contradictory. If you teach your children respect, you need to show external confirmation of it. Words mean nothing, in this regard, unless you back it up.
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. - Eleanor Roosevelt
I’m still working on me.
LOL! That response has the makings of a huge fight in your household.
And your inaction shows
Yipes! It sounds like you’re saying that it’s none of your business if your alcoholic BIL picked up a beer in your house. You’d just watch and let an alcoholic drink. Surely you couldn’t be that immoral. I don’t believe for a second that you’d do that.
No doubt. As we all are. Nonsequitor, though. And in this situation you’d also be working very very hard to make amends to your wife.I’m still working on me.
No, you don’t understand the quote at all. My wife has no need to feel inferior no matter what my bother in law says, no matter how hurtful he intends it. It’s not true. She knows it, so there is no reason to feel offended or belittled by it. He’s ignorant and his words carry no weight. The quote means that if you are secure in yourself, you have nothing to fear from those that try to belittle you.LOL! That response has the makings of a huge fight in your household.
“Jon, dear, your BIL just said* * about me, and you’re going to tell me that he made me feel inferior by *my *consent???”
Really, jon. Can you even imagine how that conversation would proceed?
I think your inaction on this issue speaks volumes about silence and tolerance in general about things that are WRONG. When one operates from the paradigm, “Hey, it’s not my path; but whatever you believe is fine” you get the above situation.
Evil wins. Racist BIL is allowed to continue in his hatred. And now wife is mad at you, to boot!
And your inaction shows
-your disrespect towards your wife
-that you really do tolerate racism
Yipes! It sounds like you’re saying that it’s none of your business if your alcoholic BIL picked up a beer in your house. You’d just watch and let an alcoholic drink. Surely you couldn’t be that immoral. I don’t believe for a second that you’d do that.
No doubt. As we all are. Nonsequitor, though. And in this situation you’d also be working very very hard to make amends to your wife.
Huh.
Ok. I’ll grant you that you wife would know that you love her. Probably this isn’t the best way to show that you do, but ok.
Sad, sad, sad.
I’m not following. I’m walking down the street and someone calls me a “homo” - I know I’m not gay, nor do I think If I was it would be something to be offended by. It’s not true. Why should I care what he says?Huh.
So it sounds like there’s an absolute truth, then?
Something isn’t true for one person and not true for another.
Ah, this is getting curiouser and curiouser.
No I’ve done something and she’s done something - ignored him. Why even bother reacting to something so stupid. He’s trying to hurtful. Why react and give him the satisfaction.
Well, either he’s right or you’re right. Absolute truth. It’s not “his truth is true for him” and “my truth is true for you.” Actually, it’s “his truth is NOT true. I am NOT gay.”
Jon? I didn’t say BIL is trying to be hurtful. He’s simply professing his truth. It’s his path.
And you are judging him, are you not? Racism is a negative thing. Not to mention he’s going to deny he’s racist. He’s going to say that he’s just professing his truth.
Sad.