Morality of Flipping Cars/Houses

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how does one possess the brawn to flip a car, let alone a house
Learn the power of redefining your terms, and you can accomplish wonders.
After all, how could the serpent have convinced Adam or Eve that they could be like gods by disobeying God unless the serpent managed to re-define what Adam and Eve thought it meant to be “like gods”? (The serpent re-defined the phrase to merely mean those “who know good and evil”. They did not think to point out that the serpent seemed to think he knew good and evil, and he seemed pretty much like a serpent, not a god.)
 
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What prevents the employees from doing what he has done? He started somewhere. My father in law came to this country with very little and started building garages for a living, making very little. He sacrificed and saved, then started buying apartment buildings in bad condition, fixing them up and renting out the units. Yes, he raised rents but he also brought the buildings up to code…replaced fire escapes and windows, appliances, everything. He charged market value, saved much of what he earned and bought more buildings. He worked until he was ninety. To hear your argument, he was a jerk creating a successful business with his own hard work because his efforts raised the value of his buildings. If he were s slumlord, he would have been “more charitable”.

What is stopping any of us from doing the same? Maybe we aren’t willing to sacrifice. He died a wealthy man but as a young man he sacrificed and worked like a dog, educating himself, learning skills, doing things himself instead of paying others, going without. He pinched every nickle and was very efficient.

You are imagining unfairness. We can ALL save and invest even if we start out poor. We can all invest time and effort.

You seem to lean toward socialism, which removes merit from the equation…the hard worker gets less than his share and the lazy are rewarded.

My son sells cars. He makes appointments whenever customers want to buy…often on his day off. When business is slow, he hangs out in service learning from the mechanics. He walks the lot and studies the cars in inventory. The kid knows every single car inside and out all the time. He pays attention to what sold, what came in. He sells like crazy. He studies the market and knows other brands as well as his own. Other salesmen complain and complain that it “isn’t fair” but stand around shooting the breeze and do nothing extra to improve their game. They won’t come in on a day off, so end up splitting commissions with whoever closed their deals. They don’t know what they have to sell, so lose opportunities. Should they be paid the same? My son books appointments like crazy…he networks and brings people into the dealership who otherwise never would have walked in the door. He does very well, better than several colleagues, and frankly nothing is stopping the others from doing the same. If they want to earn more, they can work smarter and harder.
 
The question had more to do with whether it’s okay to flip a car, especially in cases where you add very little to the car’s value. Obviously your father-in-law added value to those buildings. But what if he had simply flipped them, perhaps waiting only a few months for the return? ie. a speculator. That’s the topic at hand.
 
I am the poor. My self-employment hasn’t been good due to the economy. That’s why I flip the occasional item and wanted an opinion on this.
 
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Yep, you specifically. My price has now gone up to $6mil as you were stalling. Take it or leave it.
 
The answer is that people choose how much to ask for what they are selling and choose what they are willing to pay. Example…used car. If you trade your carb in to a dealer, you will get a fraction of market value. The dealer makes a big margin on used cars. But for me personally, as a single woman, I don’t want the safety risk of meeting with strangers to sell my car. I don’t want to deal with transferring title, handling cash and so on. It can be dangerous. So I sell to the dealer and take a loss on the car. The dealer provides me a service. I have other choices…I could meet buyers at a police station or whatever. I can’t be bothered to do that, so it is not unfair that the dealer makes money. And they invest in finding a lot of buyers, in warranty programs and so on. So, they make money. Good for them.
 
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No, flipping cars and houses is not intrinsically immoral. Yes, there are people out there who do this in an immoral way, just as there are unscrupulous people of all different professions. But it’s not something that is always and everywhere wrong. And as many people have stated, there are many house flippers who do a great service by fixing up homes that no one else wants and generally improving the neighborhood as a result.
 
because he has money, a few extra brain cells, and just the right specialized knowledge. Is that fair?
Absolutely fair and the employees would not have their job if the employer did not start the business with his money, brain cells and specialized knowledge.
 
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