More troops developing latent mental disorders

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Symptoms appear several months after returning from Iraq, military says

WASHINGTON - Thirty percent of U.S. troops returning from the Iraq war have developed stress-related mental health problems three to four months after coming home, the Army’s surgeon general said Thursday.

The problems include anxiety, depression, nightmares, anger and an inability to concentrate, said Lt. Gen. Kevin Kiley and other military medical officials. A smaller number of troops, often with more severe symptoms, were diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, a serious mental illness.

The 30 percent figure is in contrast to the 3 percent to 5 percent diagnosed with a significant mental health issue immediately after they leave the war theater, according to Col. Elspeth Ritchie, a military psychiatrist on Kiley’s staff. A study of troops who were still in the combat zone in 2004 found 13 percent experienced significant mental health problems.

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NOTE: Truck drivers and convoy guards in Iraq are developing mental health problems in greater numbers than other troops, Ritchie said, suggesting the long hours on the road, constantly under threat of attack, are taking their toll.

TDS: Truck Driver Syndrome
 
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gilliam:
NOTE: Truck drivers and convoy guards in Iraq are developing mental health problems in greater numbers than other troops, Ritchie said, suggesting the long hours on the road, constantly under threat of attack, are taking their toll.

TDS: Truck Driver Syndrome
Either way truck driver, soldier in a village does not matter…war has a terrible effect on many people…not just the soldiers!
 
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Karin:
Either way truck driver, soldier in a village does not matter…war has a terrible effect on many people…not just the soldiers!
There is a reason why people say war is hell.
 
This is exactly what the left did to our military during Vietnam. They were mental cases. Misfits. Suicidal. Drug addicts. Homeless. This was drilled into the American public during the 1970s and early 1980s.

Turned out when the epidemiologic studies were finally in, Vietnam vets were no different than their peers who did not serve. Of course by then it was too late. The lie was accepted wisdom.

First noticed the left pulling the same thing on our troops in Iraq a few months after the war began. Started in far left publications such as Counterpunch, the World Socialist Web Site and The Nation. Knew it would not take long for the mainstream liberal media to parrot the propaganda.
 
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David_Paul:
This is exactly what the left did to our military during Vietnam. They were mental cases. Misfits. Suicidal. Drug addicts. Homeless. This was drilled into the American public during the 1970s and early 1980s.

Turned out when the epidemiologic studies were finally in, Vietnam vets were no different than their peers who did not serve. Of course by then it was too late. The lie was accepted wisdom.

First noticed the left pulling the same thing on our troops in Iraq a few months after the war began. Started in far left publications such as Counterpunch, the World Socialist Web Site and The Nation. Knew it would not take long for the mainstream liberal media to parrot the propaganda.
I think I missed something here David_Paul…It is the military that is saying these things in the article…"Thirty percent of U.S. troops returning from the Iraq war have developed stress-related mental health problems three to four months after coming home, the Army’s surgeon general said Thursday"
 
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Karin:
I think I missed something here David_Paul…It is the military that is saying these things in the article…“Thirty percent of U.S. troops returning from the Iraq war have developed stress-related mental health problems three to four months after coming home, the Army’s surgeon general said Thursday”
Yea, but he also said that the percentage is declining. That was not mentioned in the article.
 
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gilliam:
Yea, but he also said that the percentage is declining. That was not mentioned in the article.
I think it was mentioned …perhaps not with the exact words “the % is declining”…
"An inquiry into the mental health of soldiers serving in Iraq found an improvement in the mental health and morale in 2004 over 2003. The military made its report on the inquiry public last week.
The report said the number of suicides in Iraq and Kuwait declined from 24 in 2003 to nine last year."

I read this to be that mental health issues were getting better…
 
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David_Paul:
This is exactly what the left did to our military during Vietnam. They were mental cases. Misfits. Suicidal. Drug addicts. Homeless.
True. I’m not sure when Vern Humphrey regained his sanity after leaving Vietnam, but the men in my unit and I were living out on the streets, stoned, and drunk for at least a dozen years after we came back. And, it was all the fault of the Democratic Party, who started that miserable war.
 
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Karin:
I think it was mentioned …perhaps not with the exact words “the % is declining”…
"An inquiry into the mental health of soldiers serving in Iraq found an improvement in the mental health and morale in 2004 over 2003. The military made its report on the inquiry public last week.
The report said the number of suicides in Iraq and Kuwait declined from 24 in 2003 to nine last year."

I read this to be that mental health issues were getting better…
cool, thanks, I missed that
 
karin…its the slant liberals will put on it. Also the vagueness of the diagnosis. Sure the military will report they show signs of stress. Who wouldn’t? Happens in civilian life too however.

And funding is needed. Not fair to send someone to fight, bring him or her home and say…"thanks, bye and good luck ".

Playing “The Freud Card” is a marxist staple. The Soviets diagnosed opponents of the regime as suffering from “Sluggish Schizophrenia” drugged them and/or tossed them into mental hospitals.

Military personal vote overwhelmingly against Democrats. They have to be explained away some way. As the left can never admit anyone else has a legitimate position, it must call them either evil, stupid or crazy.

Playing the Freud Card is also a way of discouraging those considering serving from signing up. The fewer people who do serve, the better for the left at the ballot box.
 
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David_Paul:
Military personal vote overwhelmingly against Democrats.
I don’t think so. Roosevelt, Truman, and Kennedy got more of the military vote than did their Republican opponents, as did probably Johnson.

Depends on the candidates.
 
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Richardols:
I don’t think so. Roosevelt, Truman, and Kennedy got more of the military vote than did their Republican opponents, as did probably Johnson.

Depends on the candidates.
do you have any links to this information?
 
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Richardols:
I don’t think so. Roosevelt, Truman, and Kennedy got more of the military vote than did their Republican opponents, as did probably Johnson.

Depends on the candidates.
These were the old order Democrats. These men would not reconize the party if they were alive now.:confused:
 
A major reason for the mental problems our troops are having is them being worn out. The biggest and most repeated lie about Iraq is that there are enough troops there. Secretary Rumsfeld tried to run this war on the cheap, with not enough troops and has failed miserably !
General Paton once said you dont fight for the same ground more than ,once . How many times have parts of Iraq been taken, over and over. Why cant we secure its borders ?
( keeping in mind that President Bush can’t secure the mexican border ) not enough troops. The troops that we have there are just tired out, also they keep getting extended .No wonder they are having mental problems.
 
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KathleenElsie:
These were the old order Democrats. These men would not reconize the party if they were alive now.:confused:
And do you think old order Republicans, if they were alive today, would recognize the extreme right-wing party their beloved GOP was turned into?
 
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JOHNYJ:
A major reason for the mental problems our troops are having is them being worn out. The biggest and most repeated lie about Iraq is that there are enough troops there. Secretary Rumsfeld tried to run this war on the cheap, with not enough troops and has failed miserably !
General Paton once said you dont fight for the same ground more than ,once . How many times have parts of Iraq been taken, over and over. Why cant we secure its borders ?
( keeping in mind that President Bush can’t secure the mexican border ) not enough troops. The troops that we have there are just tired out, also they keep getting extended .No wonder they are having mental problems.
There was an interesting piece on Netscape today talking about Marines on their third tour, how their initial enthusiasm has turned into no more than a desire to get out of Iraq and back home.
 
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Richardols:
There was an interesting piece on Netscape today talking about Marines on their third tour, how their initial enthusiasm has turned into no more than a desire to get out of Iraq and back home.
So where are they going to get more troops from…if they are over-extending the ones we have?
 
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