More women "ordained"

[rpp]

Sexually speaking I think the Church’s position makes a lot of sense. The priest is in The Person of Christ at the Conscration when He says “This Is My Body” or “This Is The Cup Of My Blood”. Christ is alway Masculine to His bride the Church. Just as a husband enters into his wife to give new life, Christ’s Body and Blood enter into the Church to give us new life. A women priest would be like homo sexual sex.

Did you notice that one of these pseudo priestesses is a lesbian and lives with her lover? Apparently she does not have a problem with a woman have liturgical relations with another woman since, presumably, she feels that physical relations between women is not sinful.

 

[Gerry_Hunter]

Sexually speaking I think the Church’s position makes a lot of sense. The priest is in The Person of Christ at the Conscration when He says “This Is My Body” or “This Is The Cup Of My Blood”. Christ is alway Masculine to His bride the Church. Just as a husband enters into his wife to give new life, Christ’s Body and Blood enter into the Church to give us new life. A women priest would be like homo sexual sex.

Yes; absolutely; just so. The symbolism is important.

I’m sometimes left to wonder: All souls are feminine with reference to God. He impregnates them with grace, through which they have eternal life. Do women realize that they are more naturally disposed, as the embodiment of the feminine, to that than are men? Why would they want to kick that away?

Blessings,

Gerry

 

[passioncrosslov]

To be short, if Our Lord wants women to be priests, his mother should be the first one. And tell me, who is more worthy than the Mother of God herself to be in any position, not even Christ’s disciples.

A Lady

 

[PatienceAndLove]

What I think is hilarious is the amount of gray-haired people in attendance at these things. Definitely speaks about the state of the upcoming Church.

Question, though… the people who are doing the laying on of hands, I am assuming are bishops, or are they random attendees?

And as someone points out- if they are so excited to be defying Mother Church, why is everything secretive?

 

[Caesar]

What I think is hilarious is the amount of gray-haired people in attendance at these things. Definitely speaks about the state of the upcoming Church.

Question, though… the people who are doing the laying on of hands, I am assuming are bishops, or are they random attendees?

Assuming that they are following something similar to the normal Rite of Ordination, all the “clergy” in attendance lay their hands on the new “priests” after the “Bishop”.

These female “Bishops” are part of a group that claimed to have been “ordained” by a group of actual male Bishops in Europe. I am not sure if there was ever a pretend Episcopal consecration to create these women “Bishops” though. In any case, at the time they were quickly excomunicated by then-Cardinal Ratzinger. These other “womenpriests” garner an automatic excomunication.

And as someone points out- if they are so excited to be defying Mother Church, why is everything secretive?

They like to make people think they are being persecuted by Rome. In several cases these “ordinations” took place in international waters off the US and Canada, despite the fact that there are no laws in either country prohibiting their actions. No Diocese has the legal power to stop them either.

 

[Nordar]

What I think is hilarious is the amount of gray-haired people in attendance at these things. Definitely speaks about the state of the upcoming Church.

Question, though… the people who are doing the laying on of hands, I am assuming are bishops, or are they random attendees?

And as someone points out- if they are so excited to be defying Mother Church, why is everything secretive?

It’s called we don’t want to be Catholic! but lets play Pretend Catholic! Someone should tell them that has already been done!

Oh wait do they think they are the first? I bet they do! :

 

[schatzi]

What I think is hilarious is the amount of gray-haired people in attendance at these things. Definitely speaks about the state of the upcoming Church.

“The upcoming Church”? I believe the number of gray-haired people involved in this silliness indicates those who bought into the great lie in the 60’s and 70’s that they could do what they wanted, and the Church would follow* them*.
They’re dying off, and still persist in their error. Sad…

 

[feargalmac]

These female “Bishops” are part of a group that claimed to have been “ordained” by a group of actual male Bishops in Europe.

I think the actual male Bishops you refer to are:
1, An actual priest, who declared himself a Bishop,
and
2, A man “ordained” by the first and subsequently ordained a bishop as well. He then went on to “ordain” a well known female singer.

If I’m wrong I apologise.

 

[Caesar]

I think the actual male Bishops you refer to are:
1, An actual priest, who declared himself a Bishop,
and
2, A man “ordained” by the first and subsequently ordained a bishop as well. He then went on to “ordain” a well known female singer.

If I’m wrong I apologise.

The womenpriests claim that their female “Bishops” were ordained and consecrated by valid male Bishops in Europe sympathetic to their cause. They refuse to give names because they claim these Bishops are recognized by Rome.

I think I’ve read something similar to what you said, which could very well be true since there is no small chance that this womenpriest group is lying.

 

[PatienceAndLove]

“The upcoming Church”? I believe the number of gray-haired people involved in this silliness indicates those who bought into the great lie in the 60’s and 70’s that they could do what they wanted, and the Church would follow* them*.
They’re dying off, and still persist in their error. Sad…

In this instance, I am referring to the upcoming Church being full of Orthodox youngins.
The number of grey heads at these events tells me that the younger generation is not buying into this silliness.
Sorry for the confusion.

 

[schatzi]

In this instance, I am referring to the upcoming Church being full of Orthodox youngins.
The number of grey heads at these events tells me that the younger generation is not buying into this silliness.
Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks P & L - I understand your post now, and I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[Theodore]

My first statement was that these people that advocate " Women Priest" are barking up the wrong tree. My guess, is that these people do not understand the the word “NO” such a small word, yet very few people especially children have a lot of trouble getting the grasp of it. I come from a family of 8 children and the word that came up most … You guessed it !!! it was the word “NO” It took me a long time to understand that word, and it also gave me a lot of grieve especially when i went against my fathers wishes … But finally my siblings and i accepted the word “NO” and peace was restored to our house hold. The meaning of that word was also confirmed to me, when i was called up in the Aust Army as a conscript during the Vietnam war…So what i’m trying to say is, that while i have a limited education, i do understand that highly contentious word “NO” especially when it comes from a higher Authority, but i guess that some people will never learn, untill they have to explain themselves to that Higher Authority… Ummm !! does that make sense…
Cheers from down under,
Theo…

 

[rpp]

My first statement was that these people that advocate " Women Priest" are barking up the wrong tree.

{snip}

Cheers from down under,
Theo…

Personally, I think that English is the second language for those women who were falsely ordained as pseudo priestesses and deaconesses.

Their first language is “woof woof!”

So to me is is not just that they are barking up the wrong tree. The fact is all they do when they open their lips is to bark.

And yes, your point about them not understanding “no” is well put and part of the sick formula they use to justify their detestable actions.

 

[Theodore]

Dear Father John Corapi ,
I thought that an act of charity was to correct those who are in error, lest they die in their sin … Please correct me if i am wrong, as i said …i do not have a very good education , mainly because i come from a very poor family. But the one thing my father taught me was true charity, by correcting me when i was wrong. Lest i would have had to answer to a higher authority and ended up in Jail… Not to mention having to answer to a even Higher Authority when i die, and end up where no one wants to go. As my Parish Priest used to say, and i quote { i say “used” because he has passed away, and my hope is that he is now at peace with his beloved GOD }… " HAMMER STOUTLY BUT PRAY DEVOUTLY " end quote.
Yours Truely
Theo…

 

[dwc]

You know, I see these threads from time to time and I just cannot get worked up about this – as others have said, it seems so obvious that aging hippies are behind this. As they die out, so will this nonsense.

I’m not being critical of these threads, I understand that it’s important to explain to new Catholics or people who are just exploring the faith why women can’t be ordained. It’s just that I personally can’t summon any righteous anger about it – it’s more like :yawn: I’m just waiting for this teeny little movement to go away. Maybe I’m too complacent?

 

[Theodore]

Yep ! i know what you’re saying,if you ignore something long enough it will go away. But then again what i’m trying to say is that these people can and will do a lot of damage, especially when they get into our education system, you see it’s not us seniors that they are trying to convert to there way of thinking, it’s our young. I know because they are already getting into my young Grand-daughters head, and because it is their teacher that is telling them all this garbage it takes a lot of convincing that Grandad is right and the teacher is wrong. I suppose it’s my military trainning that puts me more on guard because i never underestimate the enemy. The old saying, re-educate the young and the war is all but over.

 

[PatienceAndLove]

Yep ! i know what you’re saying,if you ignore something long enough it will go away. But then again what i’m trying to say is that these people can and will do a lot of damage, especially when they get into our education system, you see it’s not us seniors that they are trying to convert to there way of thinking, it’s our young. I know because they are already getting into my young Grand-daughters head, and because it is their teacher that is telling them all this garbage it takes a lot of convincing that Grandad is right and the teacher is wrong. I suppose it’s my military trainning that puts me more on guard because i never underestimate the enemy. The old saying, re-educate the young and the war is all but over.

Exactly! It is these people who are the ones in the RE and CCD classes. These people are in our Catholic schools. And sometimes these ladies are nuns. Yep.
We have to be on guard with these people. Esp now that the MP is out. They (yes, the ubiquitous “they”) are going to be going whole hog on convincing people that they are right, and those of us supporting the Pope and the MP are backward.

 

[rpp]

Dear Father John Corapi ,
I thought that an act of charity was to correct those who are in error, lest they die in their sin … Please correct me if i am wrong, as i said …i do not have a very good education , mainly because i come from a very poor family. But the one thing my father taught me was true charity, by correcting me when i was wrong. Lest i would have had to answer to a higher authority and ended up in Jail… Not to mention having to answer to a even Higher Authority when i die, and end up where no one wants to go. As my Parish Priest used to say, and i quote { i say “used” because he has passed away, and my hope is that he is now at peace with his beloved GOD }… " HAMMER STOUTLY BUT PRAY DEVOUTLY " end quote.
Yours Truely
Theo…

Umm… Was this directed at me? I am not Father John Corapi. I quote him on my signature line. That is why it is quotes and italics while his name is not.

Yes, absolutely we should correct people. That is the purpose of excommunication. To tell people that what they have done is seriously wrong and it also invites them to return to the Church. Unfortunately, in our society it is much more stylish to thumb your nose then claim to be persecuted. These types of people often believe being faithful and obedient is, at best, for the weak minded.

 

[Ampatamia]

As a woman who holds an advanced theology degree, I an AMAZED that these women continue to think that the Catholic Church will accept the ordination of women if they ordained women. With each ordination, they set their own movement back HUNDREDS OF YEARS. The Roman Catholic Church has spoken. The Church CAN NOT ORDAIN WOMEN. Their alleged “ordination” is clearly invalid. If they spent more time serving the Church rather than being actively disobedient to it, they would help ALL WOMEN in ministry to be more accepted in the authentic ministry that God has called them to.

-Ampatamia

 

[PatienceAndLove]

As a woman who holds an advanced theology degree, I an AMAZED that these women continue to think that the Catholic Church will accept the ordination of women if they ordained women. With each ordination, they set their own movement back HUNDREDS OF YEARS. The Roman Catholic Church has spoken. The Church CAN NOT ORDAIN WOMEN. Their alleged “ordination” is clearly invalid. If they spent more time serving the Church rather than being actively disobedient to it, they would help ALL WOMEN in ministry to be more accepted in the authentic ministry that God has called them to.

-Ampatamia

Thank you for your comment.
I get the reaction, from some people, that if I pursue an advanced degree in Theology, I will “learn the truth” and leave the Faith. I think it would be quite the opposite.
You seem to be evidence of that.