And whose definition of compassion do we use? Yours? Mine? Some of the most compassionate people I have knows were tough and borderline rude. It was their “compassion” that helped me the most and did not allow me a lot of lee way.
Blunt, maybe, but not rude. There is a difference, and you should check the definitions before making such a statement.Again, Tex, I wonder how many Catholics on this site could say with a straight face that they do not think that your posts about Mormons are rude. Or an embarassment to your community… As I felt when one of my mission companions used to say rude things about Catholics. Come to think of it, he also used to use that “truth” defense.That rationalization didn’t impress me then and it does not impress me now.
Again, I ask you, what was the name of this mission president who supposedly told you to be rude to Catholics?
Calling someone an “embarassment” is a term of endearment? Hmmm.What names have I called anyone?Please identify.
You are very welcome.I’m very grateful for your prayers. I really need the discernment right now.
Listen, I know you probably feel as if your being attacked here at this forum but alot of us here are former mormons (some very long, others not that long) and feel that by showing you what the lds church says and believes you will really think about not going back to mormonism. We are concerned for your soul even though it seems like we want to beat on you. Everyone here has their own style and it seems like they are attacking, they are not.
OK. Apparently at least one Catholic on this site does not find TexasKnight’s statements about Mormons to be an embarassment. I admit I’m wrong. And surprised.
Since TexasKnight finds my statements offensive (misconstruing what I said to be an attack on him rather than a complaint about his style), and since I find TexasKnight’s statements offensive, the best thing we can do for forum peace is to put each other on ignore. There are others here I would enjoy reading and conversing with, and I don’t think that my conversation with TexasKnight is going anywhere. If he ever does name his mission president,then someone please PM it to me.
Not based on my experience.
You see, most of the participants in this debate have had negative real-life experiences with Mormons and/or Mormonism. Mormons, in addition, tend to be passive-aggressive in their interactions with non-Mormons.You can add my family to the list of people who have had negative real-life experiences with Mormons.Not based on my experience.
Ezekiel - TexanKnight reminds of how the early saints defended the Church against heresy.
OK. Apparently at least one Catholic on this site does not find TexasKnight’s statements about Mormons to be an embarassment. I admit I’m wrong. And surprised.
Since TexasKnight finds my statements offensive (misconstruing what I said to be an attack on him rather than a complaint about his style), and since I find TexasKnight’s statements offensive, the best thing we can do for forum peace is to put each other on ignore. There are others here I would enjoy reading and conversing with, and I don’t think that my conversation with TexasKnight is going anywhere. If he ever does name his mission president,
Praying for your journey.I’m very grateful for your prayers. I really need the discernment right now.
In my experience most Mormons aren’t passive aggressives. On the other hand, I do agree with your word “tend.” I too have found a higher proportion of passive aggressives in mormon culture than outside it. And I think that you are too charitable when you qualify “to non-mormons.” Believe me, passive aggressive Mormons are passive aggressive to other Mormons as well.Not based on my experience.
Yeah, you can live any way you want and call yourself anything you want until what you call yourself no longer has any meaning because it means so many different things. Wonderful!Perhaps it’s not necessary for ‘you’ to believe they are Christians , it is only necessary that they believe they are Christians and live accordingly. That you don’t believe they are in no way affects what they believe about themselves. Seems like a wonderful way to believe and live to me.
The thing I see is a devout Catholic who you don’t give the benefit of the doubt to because you don’t like what he says. I find that to be uncharitable.
OK. Apparently at least one Catholic on this site does not find TexasKnight’s statements about Mormons to be an embarassment. I admit I’m wrong. And surprised.
Since TexasKnight finds my statements offensive (misconstruing what I said to be an attack on him rather than a complaint about his style), and since I find TexasKnight’s statements offensive, the best thing we can do for forum peace is to put each other on ignore. There are others here I would enjoy reading and conversing with, and I don’t think that my conversation with TexasKnight is going anywhere. If he ever does name his mission president,
As Catholics are so fond of reminding people…Jesus was God and had a bank of knowledge and understanding far above what any of us could possibly hope to claim.
I must do what I am led by God to do. I have read about our past Popes and Saints and I am sure detractors considered them rude. Certainly, those in opposition to me might find me rude, though no one has pointed out exactly where I was rude.As Catholics are so fond of reminding people…Jesus was God and had a bank of knowledge and understanding far above what any of us could possibly hope to claim.
“Love is patient and kind, love is not jealous or boastful; it is not arrogant or rude.” Our standard of behavior is not what others do or how they act. What God does He does because He is God and sees more clearly than I could ever hope to. He alone is Soverign…so saying that Jesus did such and such gives me the right to do such and such is way out of my comfort zone…but that’s me.
By this friends response to your posts…do you really think in all honesty you are “helping” him or are you perhaps reminding him why he should not leave his faith tradition less he begin speaking in a way he finds rude?
You may not find your words offensive…he obviously does. Doesn’t it then come back to you to frame your comments to him so that discourse might continue in a framework you both find comfortable…perhaps then he might actually listen to what you have to say.
The thing I see is a devout Catholic who you don’t give the benefit of the doubt to because you don’t like what he says. I find that to be uncharitable.
Ratting out people online so you can call up their superior isn’t the goal here.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you’re joking. But seriously if an LDS mission president where to say that, then he needs to be corrected, and can be corrected, unless he is named. Not that I’ve ever been terribly impressed with the "just following orders " excuse. I authority that told me to do something wrong.
I understand what you are saying. Many Catholics have similar feelings to the bishops caught up into the sex abuse scandal and suffling the abusing priests around.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you’re joking. But seriously if an LDS mission president where to say that, then he needs to be corrected, and can be corrected, unless he is named. Not that I’ve ever been terribly impressed with the "just following orders " excuse. I authority that told me to do something wrong.
My point is, is taking action for a situation that has nothing to do with you is none of your business. If someone wants to reconcile themselves to another it is between those people.
