Mormon women declare 'Wear Pants to Church Day'

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rainman10 said:
I wasn’t aware of this either, until I went, with my wife, to my grandmothers funeral. My wife was wearing a very nice and conservative pant suit and we were made to leave and have her change clothes. Then we were allowed to attend. We were late in returning to the funeral and what is worse, I was a pallbearer.
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How callous and cruel.
 
I remember that during my short stay in Mormonism, not long after they re-baptised me going on a young adults trip to the sandhills state park. I had been there many times before and I wore not-to-short cutoffs.

I was the only one male in shorts, the others wore long pants, and the women dresses or skirts.

Turned out I was the only one who had not been to temple for endowment. The others had “garments”, and I did not even know they existed.

The missionaries were in such a rush to dunk me that they left a LOT out.
 
RebeccaJ said:
But you aren’t wearing jeans, and I doubt you got those tattoos after your conversion to Mormonism. So yours are forgiven because they are from your previous, uninformed, life. The Holy Ghost can still get through your tattoos. You are special.

“…when individuals follow the body-defiling practices of multiple piercing and tattooing, they dull their spiritual sensitivity. Tattooing the body seems analogous to spraying graffiti on one of our beautiful temples.” (from here)

:rolleyes:
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No, I got the tattoos after I was baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ (a few months after, some Hebrew).
A co-worker of mine strategically grew a beard, periodically, just so he wouldn’t be called as a bishop. It worked. He said he wanted to be viewed as rebellious, but not too rebellious as to have the stake pres. calling him into his office.
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That is odd. Our last Bishop grew a beard sometimes, and in our current bishopric, one of the counselors comes to Sacrament Meeting with a beard a number of times.

Again, Utah is its own special world, in comparison to the rest of us outside of that bubble.
As for dress code, I love how Mormons dissemble their own leader’s teachings.
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"When you are well groomed and modestly dressed, you invite the companionship of the Spirit and you can be a good influence on others. " (from here)
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Who said anything about dissembling our leaders’ teachings? That counsel is certainly true, and something that is not unique to the Church of Jesus Christ. Indeed, my parents always used to say (and still do) “cleanliness is next to Godliness”, among other common idioms related to this.
 
lax16 said:
Have they changed their teaching on the wearing of a cross as well?
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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints doesn’t use the cross as an official symbol of the Church (though of course the crucifixion, as well as other scenes from the life of Jesus Christ are depicted in our meetinghouses, temples, and other buildings (both sacred and mundane), as well as by various Latter-day Saint artists). However, I am certainly allowed to wear one if I desire, and will not be punished if I do so, even with counsel previously given as you quoted.
Do you openly wear it or is it hidden underneath your shirt?
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I openly wear it at all times (except when I’m at work, since I’m currently on rotation at a Jewish hospital).
I am quite certain your tattoos are hidden by clothes…😉
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Naturally they would be hidden when I wear long sleeved shirts, however they are visible when I wear short sleeved shirts, and everyone is aware, has seen, asked about, etc. And yes, I’m still Elders Quorum President (and they knew about all of that before I was called).
 
andrewstx said:
I remember that during my short stay in Mormonism, not long after they re-baptised me going on a young adults trip to the sandhills state park. I had been there many times before and I wore not-to-short cutoffs.

I was the only one male in shorts, the others wore long pants, and the women dresses or skirts.

Turned out I was the only one who had not been to temple for endowment. The others had “garments”, and I did not even know they existed.

The missionaries were in such a rush to dunk me that they left a LOT out.
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That’s interesting. Maybe they just wanted to wear long pants. Garments do not prevent one from wearing shorts (I certainly wore them during the summer, and especially when I was in Arizona for a friend’s wedding, in the 110 degree weather).
 
LivingWaters7 said:
No, I got the tattoos after I was baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ (a few months after, some Hebrew).
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After you left Christ’s Church, you mean.

So you are special after all. Defying almost immediately the leaders you’ve chosen to follow. It must be your body graffiti says something Mormon. You could be like the fellow who tattooed portraits of Mormon “prophets” across his back. 🍿
That is odd. Our last Bishop grew a beard sometimes, and in our current bishopric, one of the counselors comes to Sacrament Meeting with a beard a number of times.
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Again, Utah is its own special world, in comparison to the rest of us outside of that bubble.
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There are a lot of BYU grads and RMs. All who were taught and believe that facial hair indicates something of a less than stellar spirituality, by LDS church leaders. Utah has nothing to do with it.
Who said anything about dissembling our leaders’ teachings? That counsel is certainly true, and something that is not unique to the Church of Jesus Christ. Indeed, my parents always used to say (and still do) “cleanliness is next to Godliness”, among other common idioms related to this.
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Equivocating now.

Cleanliness is culturally subjective. Mormons are homogenized to a conservative US culture c.1950.
 
Sarcelle said:
Of course there are Catholics here who think all women should dress like the Virgin Mary, which is like first century Palestine.

Personally I like the salwar kameez. I remember wearing one as a child.
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Hey, that makes two of us! (All right, I’m a guy, but it’s what a lot of women wear to church here. For more formal occasions, like a wedding, the saree is mandatory though.) 😃
 
LivingWaters7 said:
No, I got the tattoos after I was baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ (a few months after, some Hebrew).
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Wow! Things have really changed.
That is odd. Our last Bishop grew a beard sometimes, and in our current bishopric, one of the counselors comes to Sacrament Meeting with a beard a number of times.
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Again, Utah is its own special world, in comparison to the rest of us outside of that bubble.
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Yeah. Beards in San Francisco are sort of the norm here. I went to Sacrament Meeting about a year ago for a cousin’s Confirmation and was surprised to see that I wasn’t the only one with a beard. Still all white shirts though.
Cleanliness is culturally subjective. Mormons are homogenized to a conservative US culture c.1950.
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Which is why I found it so strange that culturally the LDS in my life were so hung up on such things. I was hounded by my bishop in my single’s ward (in a different CA city) to shave, despite the fact that half of all the LDS prophets wore beards.

To be certain, there does exist an expectation of some cultural conformity in Catholicism too. I’m sure my priest would have some choice words for me if I decided to wear a dress as a man to church, no matter how modest of a dress it may be. It was just always my experience that Mormon culture dictates nearly to a T what is acceptable and not acceptable (e.g. must have a tie, must have a white shirt, must be clean shaven, etc.). While I’d never wear shorts or sandals to Mass, I have gone to daily mass in sneakers, and I have worn a sweater with khakis instead of my normal suit (Mormon habits die hard :p)
 
LivingWaters7 said:
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints doesn’t use the cross as an official symbol of the Church (though of course the crucifixion, as well as other scenes from the life of Jesus Christ are depicted in our meetinghouses, temples, and other buildings (both sacred and mundane), as well as by various Latter-day Saint artists). However, I am certainly allowed to wear one if I desire, and will not be punished if I do so, even with counsel previously given as you quoted.
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Punished? What does that mean?:confused:

Well, around here Mormon kids aren’t even allowed to play with little girls wearing cross earrings. (I guess it is different if it is a Catholic wearing a cross instead of a Mormon)
I openly wear it at all times (except when I’m at work, since I’m currently on rotation at a Jewish hospital).
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I can understand that.
Naturally they would be hidden when I wear long sleeved shirts, however they are visible when I wear short sleeved shirts, and everyone is aware, has seen, asked about, etc. And yes, I’m still Elders Quorum President (and they knew about all of that before I was called).
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I have noticed it is pretty cool to get a guy like you to become Mormon. Maybe they will add you to the “I’m tattooed and I’m Mormon” ads! 😃
 
Been so much talk of pants on the New Order Mormon forums, especially those that have a calling in the nursery, for the youngsters. It would seem pants would be a better choice, for when running the nursery, less chance of a wardrobe malfunction. The funny thing is that there has also been talk of wearing burqas in church, where only the eyes and hands are visible.
 
Geocacher said:
Been so much talk of pants on the New Order Mormon forums, especially those that have a calling in the nursery, for the youngsters. It would seem pants would be a better choice, for when running the nursery, less chance of a wardrobe malfunction. The funny thing is that there has also been talk of wearing burqas in church, where only the eyes and hands are visible.
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Burqas?! :eek:
 
Mormons have some strange hangups about men having beards (men in leadership roles are expected not to have beards). Women always wear dresses, men wear white shirts and ties, and unlike what others have said on this thread, that’s not just a Utah thing. That’s pretty much everywhere in the U.S. Those that experience otherwise are the exception, not the rule.

But as Catholic I must honestly say I would be embarrassed to show Mormons how most Catholic dress for mass. Catholics dress for mass like they really don’t give a hoot about where they are when they are at mass–flip flops, shorts, jeans, t-shirts, athletic jerseys. They just don’t seem to care at all. How many times have you heard fellow Catholics say, “God doesn’t care what I wear.”? Personally I think that’s a lame excuse to be lazy, and it reflects the wrong attitude. Like it or not, in our culture how we dress indicates the importance we attribute to the occasion. This is why we dress up for weddings, graduations, business meetings, dates, proms, etc. But most Catholics dress for mass like they are going to movies, and usually not even that nice.

So basically I admire LDS for at least trying to demonstrate the importance of Sunday worship by how they dress. They are a little too stringent about this in some ways, but they make us Catholics look like a bunch of slobs. Maybe the LDS leadership saw how we Catholics dress and realized that if they give an inch the folks will take a mile just like we have.
 
There are hardly any women at my church but the little old ladies who do come wear dresses. Virtually all of the men wear ties.
 
Chris-WA said:
Mormons have some strange hangups about men having beards (men in leadership roles are expected not to have beards). Women always wear dresses, men wear white shirts and ties, and unlike what others have said on this thread, that’s not just a Utah thing. That’s pretty much everywhere in the U.S. Those that experience otherwise are the exception, not the rule.

But as Catholic I must honestly say I would be embarrassed to show Mormons how most Catholic dress for mass. Catholics dress for mass like they really don’t give a hoot about where they are when they are at mass–flip flops, shorts, jeans, t-shirts, athletic jerseys. They just don’t seem to care at all. How many times have you heard fellow Catholics say, “God doesn’t care what I wear.”? Personally I think that’s a lame excuse to be lazy, and it reflects the wrong attitude. Like it or not, in our culture how we dress indicates the importance we attribute to the occasion. This is why we dress up for weddings, graduations, business meetings, dates, proms, etc. But most Catholics dress for mass like they are going to movies, and usually not even that nice.

So basically I admire LDS for at least trying to demonstrate the importance of Sunday worship by how they dress. They are a little too stringent about this in some ways, but they make us Catholics look like a bunch of slobs. Maybe the LDS leadership saw how we Catholics dress and realized that if they give an inch the folks will take a mile just like we have.
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Grew up Mormon, did the whole dress-up thing every Sunday. My parents made me go but wouldn’t go to church with me and we were dirt poor so sometimes I didn’t have the right clothes and people noticed. I could hear the tongue clicks, sighs, and see the sneers. I hated that, and I resented those individuals that couldn’t figure out that a 10 year can’t help it if he doesn’t have nice clothes all the time.

Catholicism is different, as it should be. I’ve gone to mass after coming straight from a football game so I’m guilty of wearing a jersey. But, usually I wear my nice clothes. I really like the fact that as a Catholic it’s more relaxed.

On a given mass in my parish you’ll see everything from suits and ties, to tee shirts and jeans. Yes, people should care what they wear, people should do lots of things. I’m just glad they come no matter what they wear.

Yes, try and wear nice clothes, but it’s ok if you can’t, no one will judge you, it’s just wonderful to see you!

I love being a Catholic. It’s the Real Thing. The Original, Authentic, Christianity
 
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