Mormon Word Games

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Mormons are good at word games so you end up playing dictionary with them. They’re akin to Jehovah Witnesses in that they use the same semantics and insist on calling themselves Christian, except Mormons are far better at it. As a result, their cult might be more controlling because they’re better at deceptively substituting words in Christian lingo with their own doctrine. They do this so effectively that they keep their followers in line without having to rely so much on external support.

Take for example what that young Mormon gentleman in the video said: He said that Mormons believe in Jesus Christ as the Son of God. This is true on the surface. However, Mormons don’t actually believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God in the relational Trinitarian Christian sense, but that each and every one of us are literal sons and daughters of God with Jesus having been the literal first born of the Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother. Of course now they’ll step in and cherry pick Bible verses to argue this or that or whatever with you. You just can’t win with Mormon apologetics because they’ve become masters at playing these word games. - Anonymous
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Thoughts? I feel like nearly every Mormon debate ends up with word games as well. What does CAF think?
 
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I have no idea, but holy smokes, I learn more about them every day on here. 😮😯

I think I sort of knew that in an indirect way, but never thought about it. I knew about the Celestial Mother, but never put 2 and 2 together I guess. Whoa.
 
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I actually humored them once and took a walk in the park with them. But I never got the part with word games. It got pretty ridiculous right away.

“So… who’s your favorite prophet?”

Me: “Umm… John the Baptist.”

“Well, we want to tell you about our favorite prophet: Joseph Smith”

Me: “BWAAAHAHAHA!! Joseph Smith? That’s his name? I give you John the Baptist and you give this? Later.”
 
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It’s true; they have changed over time. Joseph Smith was very clear in what he taught. He said that God told him that every denomination was an abomination and that their professors were corrupt. They don’t seem to say that anymore.
 
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Indeed, and if I may add on my own, another reason why some Mormons also see Jesus as the Son of God differently.

In Mormon theology, the Heavenly Father (named Elohim), is an exalted alien who lives on the planet/star Kolob. Some Mormons believe that the Heavenly Father came down to earth to have physical sexual intercourse with the Virgin Mary to conceive Jesus. Not all Mormons believe Jesus was conceived in this way, and some even go as far as to claim the LDS church does not teach this, though the fact of the matter is is that the LDS church has simply not authoritatively pronounced how Jesus was conceived.

Regardless, the LDS church does officially teach that the Heavenly Father is an exalted alien who is the literal father of Jesus and all of us before we attain human bodies. This is how many Mormons see Jesus as the Son of God because he is first born of Elohim and the Heavenly Mother. It’s a very weird culty theology in general.
 
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Are you kidding me? 😶😮

And I’m sure this is precisely the reaction you expected. Oh my dear Lord.
 
Stay far far far away from the Mormon cult. Pray that they find the truth of the Gospel.
 
No worries there. And yes, indeed.

Holy.

Smokes.

Mind BLOWN.
 
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If you have any questions about them, you can PM. I’ve been studying Mormonism for a long time now.
 
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Indeed, and if I may add on my own, another reason why some Mormons also see Jesus as the Son of God differently.

In Mormon theology, the Heavenly Father (named Elohim), is an exalted alien who lives on the planet/star Kolob. Some Mormons believe that the Heavenly Father came down to earth to have physical sexual intercourse with the Virgin Mary to conceive Jesus. Not all Mormons believe Jesus was conceived in this way, and some even go as far as to claim the LDS church does not teach this, though the fact of the matter is is that the LDS church has simply not authoritatively pronounced how Jesus was conceived.

Regardless, the LDS church does officially teach that the Heavenly Father is an exalted alien who is the literal father of Jesus and all of us before we attain human bodies. This is how many Mormons see Jesus as the Son of God because he is first born of Elohim and the Heavenly Mother. It’s a very weird culty theology in general.
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It kind of blew my mind that Battlestar Galactica was originally written by a Mormon and he injected a lot of this nonsense into the show. There’s even a “Kolob” in that story too. edit: Actually, it’s called Kobol in the show… but based off of these things.
 
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Y’all have got to stop (yes I’m laughing at my lapse into a long-abandoned vernacular)…😮 (My facial expression must be nothing short of priceless.)

So I Googled this. Poof. Mind blown. I have clearly been living a sheltered life. Thank God I was raised Christian and found my way to Catholicism.

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And pray daily that Mormons, who were unfortunate enough to not be born in Christian families, may find their way to Christ.
 
Wow, really? I mean… it does make for a really good science fiction story!
 
I can’t help but think of this scene in Shanghai Noon. Joseph Smith created this elaborate theory that the Native Americans were the lost tribes of Israel. Perhaps he thought “Dark hair and dark skin = They’re Jewish!”

But this is kind of a funny spin on it with the Chinese:

 
Lol!

Joseph Smith actually plagiarized the idea that the Native Americans were Jews from an earlier work called “View of the Hebrews”. It was written by a Congregationalist minister named Ethan Smith who speculated that some Israelites fled during the Assyrian, Babylonian, and Jewish-Roman wars, and sailed all the way to the Americas to become the Native Americans.

Fun Fact: Co-Author of the Book of Mormon, Oliver Cowdery, knew Ethan Smith personally and was a fan of his book “View of the Hebrews.”
 
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Learn something new everyday. Or every night, in this case. Time to go to sleep 🙂
 
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Co-Author of the Book of Mormon, Oliver Cowdery
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I had always thought Joseph Smith had sole authorship. Or I suppose I should say ‘would have thought that if I had ever considered the matter’.
 
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Yep, after Martin Harris lost the first 116 pages of the Book of Mormon, Cowdery decided to help Joseph Smith “translate” the Book of Mormon from there on.

I truly wonder what the Book of Mormon would have looked like today if Martin Harris hadn’t lost the first manuscript and Cowdery didn’t step in as a result.
 
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