Mormonism vs Catholicism

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I have been looking into both and while reading the tracts on Mormonism on this site I am struggling to see the suggested differences.

Firstly I noticed that it states that the mormon’s belief in eternal progression (becoming god) is blasphemous however in the catechism of the Catholic Church it states…
460 The Word became flesh to make us “partakers of the divine nature”:78 "For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God."79 "For the Son of God became man so that we might become God."80 "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods."81
Also the LDS view of the Godhead, I can’t see why it’s any worse than the Trinity. There are three personages all divine that make up one God?

Would appreciate any help and explanations of these!
 
The Mormon conception of God is akin to ancient polytheistic religions. Theirs is not a God of absolute power, beyond being to whom everyone derives their existence, worth and morality. Theirs is essentially a super man who has powers over his respective sphere of influence (earth) while being limited or unable to influence other universes/planets which also have people on them.

If Christians believe in a God who is the the ultimate being to which nothing or anyone can be compared, Mormons believe in a god who is simply one of many gods that the cosmos has produced from all eternity. There are literally an infinite amount of greater deities than the God Mormons worship in their system. In the grand scheme of things Yahweh to the Mormon is only special as a means to ascend to their own godhood because that is the law of the universe apparently.
 
Also the LDS view of the Godhead, I can’t see why it’s any worse than the Trinity. There are three personages all divine that make up one God?
The question isn’t which is better or worse, it’s what’s true or untrue.
 
The question isn’t which is better or worse, it’s what’s true or untrue.
I don’t have much to contribute to the thread, but I will point out that false doctrines are worse than true ones and true ones are better than false ones. To me, a question of true or false is a question of better or worse by consequence, because truths are better than falsehoods.
 
May I suggest a book? Isaiah Bennett’s “Inside Mormonism”. Bennett is a former Catholic priest that became Mormon during a time of crisis, and returned to the Catholic Church with his wife. It’s a thick book, and well sourced. I think you should read it because it gives the perspective of Mormonism from a former Mormon that had also been a Catholic priest.
 
Firstly I noticed that it states that the mormon’s belief in eternal progression (becoming god) is blasphemous however in the catechism of the Catholic Church it states…
. The Word became flesh to make us “partakers of the divine nature”:78 "For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God."79 "For the Son of God became man so that we might become God."80 "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods."81
The Catholic and Mormon view on theosis is quite different. Firstly, Catholics don’t literally believe we become God and/or gods. Rather, what is meant by the phrase “God became man so that man may become God” (first said by St. Irenaeus) is that we move through a process to become more like God. We become more holy and move towards theosis, which is heaven. There are three stages of theosis: the purgative way, the illuminative way, and then finally the unitive way. When theosis is reached, one becomes united to God, we participate in his nature, not ontologically, but rather we become holy as he is holy and experience the fullness of his presence. This is the Catholic view of theosis; or rather it is the Christian view of theosis most stressed by Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholics in particular and also the Roman Catholic Church.

Mormons on the other hand believe that by being a good Mormon and following all the Mormons rules and participating in their rituals and ceremony’s, one is elevated to “godhood.” In this they will attain the celestial kingdom and be exalted to the same status and glory as “Heavenly Father.” Some Mormons even believe they might get their own planets and/or universes one day. This is too literal interpretation of what is meant by divinization.
Also the LDS view of the Godhead, I can’t see why it’s any worse than the Trinity. There are three personages all divine that make up one God?
The Mormon concept of the Trinity is far different from the orthodox position. Orthodox Christianity (Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestants) teaches that there is one all knowing, all loving, and powerful eternal God who is spirit. God is one being but three different persons; these persons being the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each of these persons is fully distinct from each other yet they all share the same being. They are all the one true God. There are no other gods but God who is three persons. They are all the same in nature and power. None of them is above or below each other, The Father is the Father and is uncreated, he generates the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son is uncreated, he is begotten of the Father. The Holy Spirit is uncreated, he proceeds from the Father. The Father has given the Son all things (with the exception of fathership) and thus the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and [through] the Son.

Mormons on the other hand do not believe God has always existed. According to traditional Mormon beliefs, God the Father, or “Elohim”, was a man who was exalted by his own god. God the Father, according to Mormon doctrine, has a natural body of flesh and blood and he even has a wife who Mormons refer to as “Heavenly Mother” which he creates “spirit children” with. The first child he had was Jesus, who Mormons believe to be “Jehovah.” Mormons also believe in the Holy Spirit, who they profess to be incorporeal. According to Mormon doctrine, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all three separate distinct beings and thus are three different “gods.” Although, in order not to appear polytheistic, Mormons will say that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are united in one purpose and thus are one God.

Mormons and Catholics/Christians are very different. Mormons may claim to be Christian, but if we are to consider them Christians just because they believe in Jesus, we might as well consider Muslims or Bahia’s Christian. Simply believing Jesus does not make one Christian.
 
Correcting a few statements about LDS beliefs–
Mormons on the other hand believe that by being a good Mormon and following all the Mormons rules and participating in their rituals and ceremony’s, one is elevated to “godhood.”
This statement is incorrect. LDS do not believe a person “earns” their place in the kingdom any more than Catholics do.
In this they will attain the celestial kingdom and be exalted to the same status and glory as “Heavenly Father.”
This would be better stated as “LDS believe that when a person is purified in Christ’s atoning sac rife, they become joint heirs with Him and the Father shares everything He has.”
Orthodox Christianity (Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestants) teaches that there is one all knowing, all loving, and powerful eternal God who is spirit. God is one being but three different persons; these persons being the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each of these persons is fully distinct from each other yet they all share the same being. They are all the one true God. There are no other gods but God who is three persons. They are all the same in nature and power. None of them is above or below each other, The Father is the Father and is uncreated, he generates the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son is uncreated, he is begotten of the Father. The Holy Spirit is uncreated, he proceeds from the Father. The Father has given the Son all things (with the exception of fathership) and thus the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and [through] the Son.
Things in this paragraph LDS agree with:
that there is one all knowing, all loving, and powerful eternal God
There is one God.
God is three different persons; these persons being the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each of these persons is fully distinct from each other yet they all share the same being. They are all the one true God.
They are all the same in nature and power. None of them is above or below each other, The Father is the Father and is uncreated, he generates the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son is uncreated, he is begotten of the Father. The Holy Spirit is uncreated, he proceeds from the Father. The Father has given the Son all things (with the exception of fathership) and thus the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and [through] the Son.
The Holy Spirit is a personage of Spirit.
Christ has a glorified resurrected body of flesh and bone (though I have met some mainstream Christians whom don’t believe this is currently true)

Things about the Nicene Trinity LDS don’t agree with:
That the 3 persons of God are 1 through consubstantion (sp?). Rather LDS see them as being 1 through unity.
The Bible does not specify whether the Father is a personage of spirit or flesh and bone. Nicene Christians believe it to be spirit, LDS to be of flesh and bone like Christ.
Mormons on the other hand do not believe God has always existed.
Incorrect.
According to traditional Mormon beliefs, God the Father, or “Elohim”, was a man who was exalted by his own god.
This is speculation, not scripture.
God the Father, according to Mormon doctrine, has a natural body of flesh and blood
Incorrect. The Father has a glorified body of flesh and bone like Christ.
 
The question isn’t which is better or worse, it’s what’s true or untrue.
Yes it is about the truth. I probably didn’t explain myself properly. What I mean is when a Mormon explains the Godhead and a Catholic explains the Trinity, I struggle to see a difference which would make Catholicism monotheistic and Mormonism polytheistic. Both have a 3 in 1 idea of God
 
May I suggest a book? Isaiah Bennett’s “Inside Mormonism”. Bennett is a former Catholic priest that became Mormon during a time of crisis, and returned to the Catholic Church with his wife. It’s a thick book, and well sourced. I think you should read it because it gives the perspective of Mormonism from a former Mormon that had also been a Catholic priest.
Thank-you for the suggestion! I will definitely look it up. I think he may have been the author of the tracts I was reading on this site as well.
 
The Catholic and Mormon view on theosis is quite different. Firstly, Catholics don’t literally believe we become God and/or gods. Rather, what is meant by the phrase “God became man so that man may become God” (first said by St. Irenaeus) is that we move through a process to become more like God. We become more holy and move towards theosis, which is heaven. There are three stages of theosis: the purgative way, the illuminative way, and then finally the unitive way. When theosis is reached, one becomes united to God, we participate in his nature, not ontologically, but rather we become holy as he is holy and experience the fullness of his presence. This is the Catholic view of theosis; or rather it is the Christian view of theosis most stressed by Eastern Orthodox and Eastern Catholics in particular and also the Roman Catholic Church.

Mormons on the other hand believe that by being a good Mormon and following all the Mormons rules and participating in their rituals and ceremony’s, one is elevated to “godhood.” In this they will attain the celestial kingdom and be exalted to the same status and glory as “Heavenly Father.” Some Mormons even believe they might get their own planets and/or universes one day. This is too literal interpretation of what is meant by divinization.

The Mormon concept of the Trinity is far different from the orthodox position. Orthodox Christianity (Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestants) teaches that there is one all knowing, all loving, and powerful eternal God who is spirit. God is one being but three different persons; these persons being the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each of these persons is fully distinct from each other yet they all share the same being. They are all the one true God. There are no other gods but God who is three persons. They are all the same in nature and power. None of them is above or below each other, The Father is the Father and is uncreated, he generates the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son is uncreated, he is begotten of the Father. The Holy Spirit is uncreated, he proceeds from the Father. The Father has given the Son all things (with the exception of fathership) and thus the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and [through] the Son.

Mormons on the other hand do not believe God has always existed. According to traditional Mormon beliefs, God the Father, or “Elohim”, was a man who was exalted by his own god. God the Father, according to Mormon doctrine, has a natural body of flesh and blood and he even has a wife who Mormons refer to as “Heavenly Mother” which he creates “spirit children” with. The first child he had was Jesus, who Mormons believe to be “Jehovah.” Mormons also believe in the Holy Spirit, who they profess to be incorporeal. According to Mormon doctrine, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all three separate distinct beings and thus are three different “gods.” Although, in order not to appear polytheistic, Mormons will say that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are united in one purpose and thus are one God.

Mormons and Catholics/Christians are very different. Mormons may claim to be Christian, but if we are to consider them Christians just because they believe in Jesus, we might as well consider Muslims or Bahia’s Christian. Simply believing Jesus does not make one Christian.
Thank-you for this explanation!
 
Correcting a few statements about LDS beliefs–

This statement is incorrect. LDS do not believe a person “earns” their place in the kingdom any more than Catholics do.

This would be better stated as “LDS believe that when a person is purified in Christ’s atoning sac rife, they become joint heirs with Him and the Father shares everything He has.”

Things in this paragraph LDS agree with:
that there is one all knowing, all loving, and powerful eternal God
There is one God.
God is three different persons; these persons being the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each of these persons is fully distinct from each other yet they all share the same being. They are all the one true God.
They are all the same in nature and power. None of them is above or below each other, The Father is the Father and is uncreated, he generates the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son is uncreated, he is begotten of the Father. The Holy Spirit is uncreated, he proceeds from the Father. The Father has given the Son all things (with the exception of fathership) and thus the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and [through] the Son.
The Holy Spirit is a personage of Spirit.
Christ has a glorified resurrected body of flesh and bone (though I have met some mainstream Christians whom don’t believe this is currently true)

Things about the Nicene Trinity LDS don’t agree with:
That the 3 persons of God are 1 through consubstantion (sp?). Rather LDS see them as being 1 through unity.
The Bible does not specify whether the Father is a personage of spirit or flesh and bone. Nicene Christians believe it to be spirit, LDS to be of flesh and bone like Christ.

Incorrect.

This is speculation, not scripture.

Incorrect. The Father has a glorified body of flesh and bone like Christ.
Thanks Jane (I’m assuming your the same Jane on RF?)

I am still a little confused about how God can be eternal but at the same time the speculation (I understand that this isn’t scripture) that he was once a man could be correct too.
 
Thanks Jane (I’m assuming your the same Jane on RF?)

I am still a little confused about how God can be eternal but at the same time the speculation (I understand that this isn’t scripture) that he was once a man could be correct too.
Jane can safely make those claims, because what she claims can be found in LDS scripture. However, the opposite can also be found in LDS scripture. The LDS religion is self-contradictory. The Book of Mormon presents conventional Baptist theology. The Pearl of Great Price and the Doctrine and Covenants go further out into Gnosticism. The* Book of Mormon* is used for conversion purposes. It is traditional bait-and-switch.
 
I have been looking into both and while reading the tracts on Mormonism on this site I am struggling to see the suggested differences.

Firstly I noticed that it states that the mormon’s belief in eternal progression (becoming god) is blasphemous however in the catechism of the Catholic Church it states…

Also the LDS view of the Godhead, I can’t see why it’s any worse than the Trinity. There are three personages all divine that make up one God?

Would appreciate any help and explanations of these!
If you are looking to one day have your own planet to rule in some other solar system then Mormonism is the faith tradition for you. Yes, Catholics become partakers of the Divine nature, but we do not become the Divine ourselves.
 
Any serious inquiry into Mormonism begins and ends with the truthfulness of Book of Mormon and whether Joseph Smith was a prophet. And that knowledge ultimately can only be known by communication from the Holy Spirit to an individual. Comparing and contrasting doctrines of different faiths is a helpful exercise but relying on rational examination alone won’t produce sufficient justification to join a religion in the same way that rational examination alone doesn’t justify the belief that Jesus is our Savior. (see 1 Corinthians 12:3) Good luck!!
 
Describing God as three persons in one Godhead is a simplification. There is a relationship within Himself. It’s true, but God is ultimately an incomprehensible being. The revelation of His being as Triune is meant to help us understand Him, to speak to us on our level, to let us know that even apart from Creation he is and has eternally been a Father and is Love. If we take the Trinity and lose sight of it being a simplified description of Being beyond our comprehension, if we think of it as a complete description in terms of our finite thoughts on human fatherhood, sonship, and love when the reality is that our finite relationships are imperfect images of these things in God, we can walk away with some misperceptions.
 
I understand the confusion, nonetheless I am not concerned regardless of sides here with it.

I could start a thread asking questions ---- I will not, since whether you are pro Catholic or anti Mormon ---- it is possible with division in the USA with the Election Day days away, Black Lives (Blue Lives) Matter marches/protests, and I could continue the ever growing list of things/issues that separate or divide humanity ----- what happened to the two great commandments of Loving God with everything I am and loving my neighbor with everything REGARDLESS of whatever may be different, relative to dogma or no dogma, atheist, etc.

I still value today that all of us can live in peace and the days.years to come.

Or, dare I ask, is there no true, real interest, in peace and harmony at all???
 
I understand the confusion, nonetheless I am not concerned regardless of sides here with it.

I could start a thread asking questions ---- I will not, since whether you are pro Catholic or anti Mormon ---- it is possible with division in the USA with the Election Day days away, Black Lives (Blue Lives) Matter marches/protests, and I could continue the ever growing list of things/issues that separate or divide humanity ----- what happened to the two great commandments of Loving God with everything I am and loving my neighbor with everything REGARDLESS of whatever may be different, relative to dogma or no dogma, atheist, etc.

I still value today that all of us can live in peace and the days.years to come.

Or, dare I ask, is there no true, real interest, in peace and harmony at all???
Im sorry, Im struggling to see the point of your post in relation to my question? I agree it would be great if all people with different beliefs could live in harmony but that doesnt help me decide what I believe? (I am genuinely looking into catholicism and mormonism for me not general interest)
 
Things in this paragraph LDS agree with:
that there is one all knowing, all loving, and powerful eternal God
There is one God.
God is three different persons; these persons being the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each of these persons is fully distinct from each other yet they all share the same being. They are all the one true God.
They are all the same in nature and power. None of them is above or below each other, The Father is the Father and is uncreated, he generates the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son is uncreated, he is begotten of the Father. The Holy Spirit is uncreated, he proceeds from the Father. The Father has given the Son all things (with the exception of fathership) and thus the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and [through] the Son.
The Holy Spirit is a personage of Spirit.
Christ has a glorified resurrected body of flesh and bone (though I have met some mainstream Christians whom don’t believe this is currently true)
Are you saying that LDS agree with the bolded/underlined? That the three Persons all share the same being?
 
Things in this paragraph LDS agree with:
that there is one all knowing, all loving, and powerful eternal God
There is one God.
God is three different persons; these persons being the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each of these persons is fully distinct from each other yet they all share the same being. They are all the one true God.
They are all the same in nature and power. None of them is above or below each other,
They are the same in nature, however LDS also believe that we are all of the same nature as God, right?

Also, this seems very interesting for you to say, as I have seen many LDS on this forum and LDS related forums reject the orthodox belief that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are co-equal, while here you seem to be accepting it. Indeed, they talk of how subordinationism is the true belief.
The Father is the Father and is uncreated, he generates the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Son is uncreated, he is begotten of the Father. The Holy Spirit is uncreated, he proceeds from the Father. The Father has given the Son all things (with the exception of fathership) and thus the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and [through] the Son.
Do you believe that the Son is eternally begotten of the Father and that the Holy Spirit eternally proceeds from the Father (which is the orthodox doctrine)?
 
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