? It’s not easy to…visualise, when one has always taken for granted that souls don’t have parents. **i hope by now you have had an opportunity to go back and read the entire thread. if so then you will see that no one is criticizing the mormons for how they pray. it was brought up as a point about deliberate differences between mormoans and nonMornons, why there would be these differencis, how they originated, why they are perpetuated, etc. by not reading the entire thread i’m afraid you missed a lot.I haven’t read all of the thread so if this has been said - please ignore.
I’m suprised that we Catholics are critical of the way Mormons “pray” - arms folded over belly??? As a convert, I’m still suprised to see Catholics just standing there - head not bowed, hands not folded or anything during some of the prayers at mass. It’s very different from what I was used to as a Protestant.
So who are we to judge? Don’t WE hate it when Protestants claim to just KNOW we are praying to “statues.” As if they could read our hearts/minds?
I say leave it up to God.It’s His business - not ours when it comes to someone’s prayers.
Besides, I say “Heavenly Father…” all the time and I’ve never been Mormon or really know too much about them at all…
If you look at a picture named Joseph Smith “Preaching to the Lamanites”, you will see the Natives with that arms folded posture, which is universally a sign of being closed off from whatever is being communicated. 'Nough said.
i’ve not seen this portrait, but let me ask, is this a protrait of Mr Smith preaching to contemporary native Americans in his own time?
I have had the opportunity to read all of the posts and I’ll stand by my original post.
OK, then are you familiar enough with mormon stuff that you can say for certain that what was written by these others is incorrect?
again, i’m not quite folllowing you. are you jdgeing the accuracy of what some people wrote by the “tone” in which you perceived them? or are you able to say certainly that what was writen is innacurate?
I have met some ex-Catholics elsewhere also. Like you, I find them impossible to take seriously. One of them tried to tell me that Pope John Paul II was possessed by Satan, and drank human blood. (No, I’m not joking). It’s just one of those situations where you pat the ranter on the head, and reply “OK, whatever you say, dear”.
LaMar – I find what you have said somewhat hard to believe. But, then again, nothing surprises me anymore. Anyone who has gotten to know anything about Pope John Paul II knows he was a very loving man who cared about everyone.
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I would say that even though the picture was painted during the Utah days, it is still an accurate representation of how well Natives received JS’s message.I appreciate your gradual approach towards leaving LDS. Do you really realize how far you have wandered already?:yup:
As soon as my youngest sister gets married I’ll likely forget about them. We already attend a reform temple (sporadically, and we don’t take that seriously either).
Little do you seem to know that you are already an “ex-Mormon” or a “recovering Mormon”.
Please. There’s nothing to “recover” from. Mormonism didn’t cause me any pain or problems. I just don’t have time for most of it.
Thank you. You are entirely correct. As a matter of curiosity, what is that Christian “forum” you are referring to? You can send me a PM if you don’t like to disclose in on the board.
I am not and never have been LDS, RLDS, OR FLDS. The story is much too involved to explain here. Actually I have moved on. As you know, geography helps. I am enjoying this as a hobby, now. No longer bitterness to it, even though LDS people put me through many losses. The time I have spent studying the problem shouldn’t go to waste, you know.
Hey, I agree. I like the fact that you talk about it and criticize it. I do that too. Criticism is the only thing that’s going to lead to a better expression of spirituality.I am not and never have been LDS, RLDS, OR FLDS. The story is much too involved to explain here. Actually I have moved on. As you know, geography helps. I am enjoying this as a hobby, now. No longer bitterness to it, even though LDS people put me through many losses. The time I have spent studying the problem shouldn’t go to waste, you know.
I still have a temple recommend, but I appreciate being “excommunicated” on an internet bulletin board.
Yeah, I lurk at MADB still, but don’t post. Who knows what the Danites among them will do?
That proves your extreme dishonesty. You could have only obtained that by lying through your teeth to your bishop and stake president. Not a good character to emulate.