Here’s a relevant quote from LDS apostle Heber C. Kimball speaking to a group pf departing missionaries:
Ol’ Heber had 45 wives. The FLDS are just living the real Mormon gospel. That’s what has the LDS here so uncomfortable and why the LDS defend the child-raping FLDS. It’s way the LDS hope to live during the millennium.
i’m suggesting possibility that the fight started over some issue other than what whyme insinuates. the kids are young. wehn I was a kid I got in fights all the time over all kinds of things usually of no significance whatever except that a fight was wanted.
well Catholic missionaries are in general quite a lot different from momron missionaries, so apples and oranges, you know.
Does the catholic church claim that the protestant sects are false and incorrect or doe the catholic church claim that protestantism is true? I think that the catholic church would claim that the protestant sects are false.
He never used violence, either. Oh, wait … he did.
The police report shows the victims were asked if they were Mormon before the attack, and they said “yes.” That’s when the teens in the truck shot at the victims with an Airsoft gun, which resulted in a fight.
I don’t think that such news is trivial at all. Young mormons were attacked because they were mormons. There was no other reason for the attack. If two young catholic boys were attacked because they were catholic, would you consider it to be trivial? I don’t think so.
If it were reported, I doubt the religion of Catholic would even come up. This sort of thing is going on in schools across the country. Only in areas where there are a lot of Mormons do Mormons cry out this is happening because they are Mormon.
Just my opinion, but ever since the Jeffs thing, it seems like the Mormons have been complaining alot more about persecution.
Maybe its just been in the news more.
i’m pretty sure whyme’'s seach motor will eventually turn up a report of a 12 year old school bully hitting a momoron kid in the playground in oregon, so worry not,it is n’t just arizona.Just my opinion, but ever since the Jeffs thing, it seems like the Mormons have been complaining alot more about persecution.
And why is it always bad news coming out of Arizona? The rest of the country must think we’re a bunch of heathens or something.
Its so well informed to side with those who often misrepresent facts in an attempt to rob others of their good names.
Just out of curiosity - how can one guy be a good father to 57 children? Especially when his time is taken up by being the dictator of a theocracy and dealing with 55 marriages and sundry divorces? One of his wives, Ann Eliza, wrote a very interesting book that didn’t exactly make ol’ Brigham seem like any kind of a saint, latter-day or otherwise.
I thought it was 62 kids. anyhow If I recall right he had one wife who disliked him but the others thought he was a wonderful husband and father.
Something like eight women divorced him (I guess because they each had a problem with him, but who knows), one of whom wrote a book. The one who wrote a book despised him and thought he was an evil man. She was desperately unhappy in the polygamy system all the way around. Her book is quite interesting.
then stop doing it!
never said that. i think most mormons are sincere folks who have been deceived. I think the founders were evil. i think the leaders are questionable.
here we go with the drama queen act. there is no purpose to the extremity here. i can support all of my claims from LDS sources and you know it. i do not need “anti-mormon” materials nor do i need to exaggerate anything.
i never said that and I do not accept that JS was murdered in cold blood. I believe he reaped what he sowed and those whom he had wronged chose to commit the crime of retaliating with a lynching.
what evidence do you present that BY was a good father? I believe he was an evil man who led many to destruction. he was a tyrant that broke the laws of both man and god.
you mean like danites or mountain meadows? are you even aware of what JS and his cronies were doing to provoke this? who were these “mobs?” many of them were disgruntled mormons who were angry that they had been duped, defrauded and were ow having their wives and daughters sought through sinister means for nefarious purposes.
the cynic in me wants to point out that America never had freedom of religion. the historian wishes to point out that not all of them walked and their purpose was so that BY could have his own empire where they would live outside the laws of the Us which they blatantly refused to obey. ironic that you are the one exaggerating the “persecutions” but then you only seem familiar with the faith promoting drivel out of the primary manuals. boyd k packer sure convinced you that much that is true isn’t very useful.
you welcome but i bet you still haven’t looked at the salt lake papers interview with william law (JS former counselor in the first presidency) to see an objective view of what happened. (that can be verified by cross checking all claims wight LDS historical documents) but then you didn’t come here to learn, ask questions or discuss anything did you? you came shouting your unshakable testimony in JS to answer the questions of the poor ignorant catholics. in short you came to preach. I’ll tell you the same thing i tell your bicycling brethren: if you’re hungry come in and i’ll feed you, if your thirsty i’ll get you something to drink. if you are in need i’ll try and help but I have the true gospel and i don’t want to hear the heresies of your false prophet. god bless you.Thank you so much for helping me to not be such a narrow minded ignorant jerk who knows nothing about history.
VAST world if you would just open your eyes you could see it and it’s not mine, it’;s Gods and he invites you in.
God’s world is a very different place and thanks I’ve already accepted his invite.