Mormons attend ecumenical service with Pope Benedict XVI

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Perhaps the attitude of Mormon leaders is actually changing. I can’t imagine this happening 30 years ago.
Personally, I think this is terrific. In the most important ways, i.e. family, we really do have alot in common with Mormons. Why shouldn’t they participate in the meeting. Yes, we have our differences, but I also think that only good can come from a meeting of this kind for us and the Mormons.

The only comment that I find somewhat ironic is the opening statement in the article itself:

NEW YORK (CNS) – For the first time, representatives of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints participated in a papal prayer service – and it all started over COFFEE.

:kissme: Kathy :irish2:
 
catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802159.htm

Perhaps the attitude of Mormon leaders is actually changing. I can’t imagine this happening 30 years ago.
The word ecumenical has several different meanings. In the sense of “interfaith cooperation” for humanitarian relief, or to achieve other purposes for the common good, or for communal prayers, the LDS Church has always been willing to participate in or cooperate with other churches, including the Catholic Church. There is nothing new about that. We think that God hears the prayers of all people, not just of Mormons.

The most common way in which the word “ecumenical” is understood, however, is in relation to what is known as “ecumenism,” or the “ecumenical movement,” which is a movement aimed at “uniting” all the churches together into one church—probably under the leadership of Rome. That is a movement which the LDS Church so far has not participated in, because of the unique theological position that it assigns to itself—as the Restoration of the original and true church of Christ. For example, the LDS Church has not joined the World Council of Churches, which is one body having that kind of objective. (Interestingly, the Catholic Church has not joined the WCC either.) The only kind of “ecumenism” that we would recognize would be one in which they all agreed to be baptized Mormons! 😃

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The word ecumenical has several different meanings. In the sense of “interfaith cooperation” for humanitarian relief, or to achieve other purposes for the common good, or for communal prayers, the LDS Church has always been willing to participate in or cooperate with other churches, including the Catholic Church. There is nothing new about that. We think that God hears the prayers of all people, not just of Mormons.

The most common way in which the word “ecumenical” is understood, however, is in relation to what is known as “ecumenism,” or the “ecumenical movement,” which is a movement aimed at “uniting” all the churches together into one church—probably under the leadership of Rome. That is a movement which the LDS Church so far has not participated in, because of the unique theological position that it assigns to itself—as the Restoration of the original and true church of Christ. For example, the LDS Church has not joined the World Council of Churches, which is one body having that kind of objective. (Interestingly, the Catholic Church has not joined the WCC either.) The only kind of “ecumenism” that we would recognize would be one in which they all agreed to be baptized Mormons! 😃

zerinus
They had a meeting with representatives of non-Christian religions earlier in the week. I’m surprised they weren’t invited to that one instead of the ecumenical meeting. I wonder if the Pope realized there were Mormons there.
 
Personally, I think this is terrific. In the most important ways, i.e. family, we really do have alot in common with Mormons. Why shouldn’t they participate in the meeting. Yes, we have our differences, but I also think that only good can come from a meeting of this kind for us and the Mormons.

The only comment that I find somewhat ironic is the opening statement in the article itself:

NEW YORK (CNS) – For the first time, representatives of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints participated in a papal prayer service – and it all started over COFFEE.

:kissme: Kathy :irish2:
I think Mormons are moving towards orthodoxy more and more everyday.
 
I think Mormons are moving towards orthodoxy more and more everyday.
You may be right about that. I often think it would be great if one of the Osmonds were to become Catholic. I always think that would be a unique conversion story on The Journey Home. But, the question is . . . Who would it be, Virl, Tom, Alan, Wayne, Merrill, Jay, DONNY, Marie or Jimmy?

:kissme: Kathy :irish2:
 
I think Mormons are moving towards orthodoxy more and more everyday.
There is no doubt that that this is their goal in the perception of us “gentiles”:rolleyes: .

They only gain converts by being devious and evasive about their doctrine and beliefs.
 
You may be right about that. I often think it would be great if one of the Osmonds were to become Catholic. I always think that would be a unique conversion story on The Journey Home. But, the question is . . . Who would it be, Virl, Tom, Alan, Wayne, Merrill, Jay, DONNY, Marie or Jimmy?

:kissme: Kathy :irish2:
Had a few friends over and the commercial for Speed Racer came on someone said “20 years ago Donny Osmond would have made a perfect Speed Racer” I thought it was funny.

Thanks for the segue:)
 
Had a few friends over and the commercial for Speed Racer came on someone said “20 years ago Donny Osmond would have made a perfect Speed Racer” I thought it was funny.
Yeah, but no one can wear a pair of white pants like the Speed Racer.
 
Yeah, but no one can wear a pair of white pants like the Speed Racer.
Could Donny have pulled it off 20 years ago? I remember going into a music store (15 years ago maybe I’ve a bad sense of time) and looking for Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dream Coat
the clerk said to me “this isn’t the one with Donny Osmond” I told him that was just fine. I was startled it any one would care. The only musical thing I ever owned concerning Donny was the Alice Cooper album Welcome to my Nightmare
 
There is no doubt that that this is their goal in the perception of us “gentiles”:rolleyes: .

They only gain converts by being devious and evasive about their doctrine and beliefs.
I think they are going to have to move towards orthodoxy to keep their own people. Their members are getting too educated to continue to accept the confusion that is Mormonism. They have a very high attrition rate. I think they realize they may at the very least become closer to evangelicalism to survive. They won’t go completely Catholic, but in 20 years I could see them considering themselves just another evangelical sect. The Worldwide Church of God recently went through a similar reinvention:

wcg.org/lit/AboutUs/history.htm
 
Personally, I think this is terrific. In the most important ways, i.e. family, we really do have alot in common with Mormons. Why shouldn’t they participate in the meeting. Yes, we have our differences, but I also think that only good can come from a meeting of this kind for us and the Mormons.

The only comment that I find somewhat ironic is the opening statement in the article itself:

NEW YORK (CNS) – For the first time, representatives of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints participated in a papal prayer service – and it all started over COFFEE.

:kissme: Kathy :irish2:
The participants certainly must to have been rather liberal to have been drinking water and not giving judgmental eyes at the :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: :coffee:
 
catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802159.htm

Perhaps the attitude of Mormon leaders is actually changing. I can’t imagine this happening 30 years ago.
Father Massa described the request as coming out of a growing respect between Catholics and Mormons, which began under the leadership of the late Gordon B. Hinckley, longtime president of the Latter-day Saints.

Not to pat myself on the back but I have beens saying this for quite some time. The article also talks about shared values. I have also have said the same thing on this forum. Unfortunately some of the catholic posters could not accept such a statement. But at least now it is in print for all to see.

There is no reason for catholic answers to classify mormonism as a threat. It goes against the growing respect and shared values that both faiths possess.
 
There is no doubt that that this is their goal in the perception of us “gentiles”:rolleyes: .

They only gain converts by being devious and evasive about their doctrine and beliefs.
:rolleyes: Poor Lehl could not resist making such a statement. Some catholics just can not get with it and show respect to a different faith that does share some common values with catholicism.
 
I think they are going to have to move towards orthodoxy to keep their own people. Their members are getting too educated to continue to accept the confusion that is Mormonism. ]
The mormons will always be unique because they have the book of mormon and their early church history with heavenly visitations. Also, the mormons have always been an educated group of people. The lds church has encouraged its members to get an education in order to compete in the job market and to improve the mind. This encouragement has always existed within the lds faith.
 
Personally, I think this is terrific. In the most important ways, i.e. family, we really do have alot in common with Mormons. Why shouldn’t they participate in the meeting. Yes, we have our differences, but I also think that only good can come from a meeting of this kind for us and the Mormons.

:kissme: Kathy :irish2:
I agree with you. 🙂
 
Father Massa described the request as coming out of a growing respect between Catholics and Mormons, which began under the leadership of the late Gordon B. Hinckley, longtime president of the Latter-day Saints.

Not to pat myself on the back but I have beens saying this for quite some time. The article also talks about shared values. I have also have said the same thing on this forum. Unfortunately some of the catholic posters could not accept such a statement. But at least now it is in print for all to see.

There is no reason for catholic answers to classify mormonism as a threat. It goes against the growing respect and shared values that both faiths possess.
whyme,did you by any chance read the ENTIRE ARTICLE? such as the part about baptisms?
 
Why Me,

Why then, have the LDS refused to comment on their participation in this papal prayer service and why is there no mention on lds.org?
 
Why Me,

Why then, have the LDS refused to comment on their participation in this papal prayer service and why is there no mention on lds.org?
That’s the part that interests me. This does not seem to have been publicized among the Mormon faithful. I do see a link from the Deseret News web edition to the Catholic News Service article. I don’t know what they think they gained–they went to a lecture of the Catholic Pope and heard the Catholic Pope declare the belief in the Trinity as the basis of Christian unity!
 
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