Mormons search the web and find doubt

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TexanKnight said:
Honduras.

I was lucky. I knew I did not want to stay in the USA, and I knew I wanted to learn Spanish
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Can I ask, too, if you had any successful conversions during your time as a missionary? I know at least one past missionary who didn’t have one successful experience during his full two years out (he was in a major U.S. city).
 
gracepoole said:
Can I ask, too, if you had any successful conversions during your time as a missionary? I know at least one past missionary who didn’t have one successful experience during his full two years out (he was in a major U.S. city).
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um…I baptized people almost every week of my mission. When I left, I held the record for the most baptisms per month in the Mission. The only person with more served 2 years. When I served, they were 18 months

At least 2 of the people I baptized served missions of their own.
 
TexanKnight said:
um…I baptized people almost every week of my mission. When I left, I held the record for the most baptisms per month in the Mission. The only person with more served 2 years. When I served, they were 18 months

At least 2 of the people I baptized served missions of their own.
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Thanks – I know this isn’t the point of this thread, but I wonder if there’s a difference in the baptism rates for those in major cities in the U.S. (where Mormonism was born) vs. those sent elsewhere.

(And I would say “congrats” on holding the record, but…you know…:))
 
SAVINGRACE said:
“The Roman Catholic Church has had 2,000 years to work through the hiccups in its history,” said Terryl L. Givens, a professor of English, literature and religion at the University of Richmond and a Mormon believer. “Mormonism is still an adolescent religion".
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She damns her church out of her own mouth. How could the Church founded by Christ be an “adolescent religion”?
 
gracepoole said:
Thanks – I know this isn’t the point of this thread, but I wonder if there’s a difference in the baptism rates for those in major cities in the U.S. (where Mormonism was born) vs. those sent elsewhere.

(And I would say “congrats” on holding the record, but…you know…:))
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The baptism rate in Latin America is much higher than in the USA. Part of the reason is that the Missionaries teach a more protestant-sounding faith. They do not teach anything about the true doctrine
 
TexanKnight said:
The baptism rate in Latin America is much higher than in the USA. Part of the reason is that the Missionaries teach a more protestant-sounding faith. They do not teach anything about the true doctrine
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Do those who are baptized as Mormons often not know what Mormonism really is, then? (I mean apart from the truths that aren’t taught by the LDS but can be found online.)
 
gracepoole said:
Do those who are baptized as Mormons often not know what Mormonism really is, then? (I mean apart from the truths that aren’t taught by the LDS but can be found online.)
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no. In fact, if you were to tell them that their God used to be a man, they would tell you NO

if you tell them about plurality of gods, they would say NO

If missionaries would teach the true doctrine, they would baptize very few
 
gracepoole said:
Don’t Mormon teachings on the afterlife and the position of one’s family in it make it kind of difficult to navigate a parent, spouse, child, brother, or sister who is labeled as an apostate?
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No. In LDS teaching anyone who keeps their own covenants will enter the highest level of the Celestial kingdom regardless of what other members of their family do.

No one faithful and true to their covenants will be denied "exhaultation "…
 
TexanKnight said:
no. In fact, if you were to tell them that their God used to be a man, they would tell you NO

if you tell them about plurality of gods, they would say NO

If missionaries would teach the true doctrine, they would baptize very few
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I suppose I’m partially surprised, but then again most of the Catholics in any given parish might describe the Eucharist as symbolic. 🤷
Marie5890 said:
No. In LDS teaching anyone who keeps their own covenants will enter the highest level of the Celestial kingdom regardless of what other members of their family do.

No one faithful and true to their covenants will be denied "exhaultation "…
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Thanks for the clarification!
 
TexanKnight said:
um…I baptized people almost every week of my mission. When I left, I held the record for the most baptisms per month in the Mission. The only person with more served 2 years. When I served, they were 18 months

At least 2 of the people I baptized served missions of their own.
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On one of the ex mormon sites I’ve been on some RMs try to get in touch with those they have baptized and apologized for bringing them into the Mormon church.

Did you ever do that after you lost your testimony?
 
gracepoole said:
I suppose I’m partially surprised, but then again most of the Catholics in any given parish might describe the Eucharist as symbolic. 🤷

Thanks for the clarification!
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How do you know that most Catholics in any given parish might describe the Eucharist as symbolic?
 
Boulder257 said:
Remember, it was Benjamin Disraeli who said, “there are three kinds of lies in the world. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
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Really? I was told that Mark Twain said that. I guess it comes to show:

“The thing about quotes on the internet is you cannot confirm that they are authentic.”
  • Abraham Lincoln
 
Miriam1947 said:
On one of the ex mormon sites I’ve been on some RMs try to get in touch with those they have baptized and apologized for bringing them into the Mormon church.

Did you ever do that after you lost your testimony?
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Funny you should ask. I left my mission in Honduras in early 1986. I then went to law school and, after graduation and bar passage, went into the US Army. In 1993, I was stationed in…amazingly enough, Honduras.

I was there a year. I took time to travel to find as many of the people I had baptized as I could. I apologized to all I could find. The odd thing is, there was only ONE Army attorney position in Honduras, and it is not an easy position to get. It is a 6-month position. Not only was I able to get the position, but I was there for a year. I have always believe God sent me there to apologize to those I had baptized.
 
It seems to me like the families that are from Utah or are generations deep into Mormonism will not change, regardless of what fact(s) are presented to them. We can try and show them the errors of their doctrine but if they want to continue to believe and convert souls to a false religion then may God have mercy on their souls. (The One True Living God, not a man turned god)
 
CompSciGuy said:
Really? I was told that Mark Twain said that. I guess it comes to show:

“The thing about quotes on the internet is you cannot confirm that they are authentic.”
  • Abraham Lincoln
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Thanks for the laugh and smile…😃
 
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