Mormons: this is a BIG DEAL

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mfbukowski said:
You brother, are a very good man with a very powerful spirit and testimony and it is a privilege to associate with you here. I would hope we could meet one day.
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Just park your donkey by the third tree when you are in the neighbourhood and I’ll treat you to some fresh Milk, and prepare a place for you to stay. 👍
 
nebula said:
ronald,

Where’s the evidence that Jesus built a mormon style temple with all four floors… speaking of pomp and procession. When you show me the 1st C celestial room I will be impressed.
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Simple Question ?
If Jesus were here would he do it this way ?? “Think about it”
 
ronald_g_w said:
Simple Question ?
If Jesus were here would he do it this way ?? “Think about it”
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ronald,

I’m just pointing out that it si ridiculous for a Mormon to accuse Catholics of being too ceremonial. Mormons are plenty ceremonial. I don’t see any evidence that Jesus ever put on temple robes, do you? So why are you trying ot get on Catholics’ case over vestments?
 
nebula said:
ronald,

I don’t know what I think about Jesus. But from a trinitarian point of view, I would say that God the Son is eternal, immutable and absolutely infinite. The finite person of Jesus has a beginning. The part of Jesus which makes him God, in the trinity, is his hypostatic union with God the Son.
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nebula

I have asked these questions a number of times now and yours is the first answer I’ve recieved to any of them, sorry but your answer does not really address my questions so I would like to post them again
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Was Jesus resurrected and did He recieve an immortal body of flesh and bone ? YES or NO
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Does he have this immortal body now ?
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Will we one day be resurrected and recieve an immortal body ?
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Will we be joint heirs with Jesus of all that the Father hath ?
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Will Jesus’s deciples live in his presence in the eternities ?
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Who inherits this earth ?
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nebula said:
ronald,

I’m just pointing out that it si ridiculous for a Mormon to accuse Catholics of being too ceremonial. Mormons are plenty ceremonial. I don’t see any evidence that Jesus ever put on temple robes, do you? So why are you trying ot get on Catholics’ case over vestments?
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If Jesus were here would he do it this way ?? “Think about it”
Just answer the question from the bottom of your heart. If you dont want to post your reply thats OK
 
nebula said:
ronald,

I’m just pointing out that it si ridiculous for a Mormon to accuse Catholics of being too ceremonial. Mormons are plenty ceremonial. I don’t see any evidence that Jesus ever put on temple robes, do you? So why are you trying ot get on Catholics’ case over vestments?
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You can do the same thing with the wearing of temple robes.
Think about it and be truthful unto yourself for God sees the heart.
 
ronald_g_w said:
nebula

I have asked these questions a number of times now and yours is the first answer I’ve recieved to any of them, sorry but your answer does not really address my questions so I would like to post them again
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ronald,

Considering that I am unsure about whether or not I will accept Jesus as God how can you expect me to answer those questions? All that I can do is hypothetically answer your concerns as if I believed in the incarnation but I don’t see the point.

And, to be honest, I don’t even know what you are trying to ask with your next two posts. Care to restate your point?
 
ronald_g_w said:
You can do the same thing with the wearing of temple robes.
Think about it and be truthful unto yourself for God sees the heart.
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And a Catholic priest can celebrate mass without vestments. Under battlefield conditions, a military chaplain celebrates mass on the tailgate of a jeep dressed in fatigues with a stole as his only vestment.

Under what conditions is the LDS endowment currently performed with no apron, robe, hat, sash, etc.?
 
PaulDupre said:
And a Catholic priest can celebrate mass without vestments. Under battlefield conditions, a military chaplain celebrates mass on the tailgate of a jeep dressed in fatigues with a stole as his only vestment.

Under what conditions is the LDS endowment currently performed with no apron, robe, hat, sash, etc.?
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wow… ouch 😉 you don’t hold back any punches do you Paul?
 
ronald g w:
Was Jesus resurrected and did He recieve an immortal body of flesh and bone ?
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Yes, of course. It’s in the bible.
Does he have this immortal body now ?
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Yes, no one ever said he doesn’t.
Will we one day be resurrected and recieve an immortal body ?
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Yes. The bible tells us so.
Will we be joint heirs with Jesus of all that the Father hath ?
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Yes, if we are faithful and repentant.
Will Jesus’s disciples live in his presence in the eternities?
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Yes.
Who inherits this earth?
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The meek. But the bible doesn’t say when, for how long or under what circumstances.
 
nebula said:
why me,

If you don’t get it, you don’t get it. I’m becoming increasingly convinced that God has to touch you for you to have a passion for him.

Muslims bow down to God five times a day. Satanists have their devotions, as do Hindus and Buddhists. Is it really all the same difference to you?
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Could this be 2 things we agree on? Is it possible? 😃
 
My sister happened to read The Book of Mormon and found some very weird things about what they believe.

They believe that if we live a nearly flawless life, give money to the Mormon church, among other things, then when we die we will be given a planet of our own to rule over as a god-figure. So basically, we will become like gods, with the supreme God being equal to us. Pretty sure that is the gist if it… Kind of odd, don’t you think? Because if I remember correctly, Satan told Adam and Eve that if they ate of the tree of good and evil, then they would become like gods. Which means we are already like God in that we have knowledge of what is good and what is evil. Plus, we were made in God’s image. The characteristics we posses are things which God posses, with the exception of sadness, anger, despair, and all other negative feelings or emotions.

Okay now on to the major stuff. How to defend the divinity of Jesus… A great starting point is that there a lot of places in the Bible where God tells a prophet that he will send a Savior, his Son. Another great thing is that Jesus rose from the dead, as well as raising other people from the dead. NO ONE else has ever done this!!! Isn’t it amazing!!! Who else but GOD could defeat death? Certainly not Satan, as he IS death and destruction.

I am going to assume that you (nebula) were not involved in the Mormon church (which should actually be considered a cult) for an extremely long time. It appears to me that the deeper you got into some of the stuff, the more contradictions you found. This is the fact with many churches now a days, there is division.

Take the issue of contraception (Birth Control Pills, rings, etc.). Many churches used to be against these things, but they all fell to pressure from the populace, all except the Catholic Church which maintains the teachings against use of contraceptives. There are many reasons why the Church has the teachings it does. But most importantly is the fact that the Church does not give in, it is the ROCK which Jesus talked of.

There are several good books out there which address the weaknesses of Mormonism. I do not know all of them, but you may want to check out “When Mormons Call” or Catholic Answers has “Inside Mormonism.” Both of these are really good.
 
SchonGirl1 said:
My sister happened to read The Book of Mormon and found some very weird things about what they believe.

They believe that if we live a nearly flawless life, give money to the Mormon church, among other things, then when we die we will be given a planet of our own to rule over as a god-figure. So basically, we will become like gods, with the supreme God being equal to us. Pretty sure that is the gist if it… Kind of odd, don’t you think?
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None of that stuff is in the Book of Mormon. Mormons believe all those things, but they were invented by Joseph Smith several years after the publication of the Book of Mormon.

The Book of Mormon is very 19th-century Evangelical Protestant in its doctrines.

Paul (a former Mormon)
 
why_me said:
I am just talking reality. I cannot see god geniunely minding just how he is worshipped by mormons or catholics. The world at this moment is pretty srewed up. I do think that god has other things on his mind than the way mormons worship him. To my knowledge, mormons are very respectful to god and attempt to live his commandments.

And that is okay in my book. 🙂
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Except Mormons think God was just a man and that they too can be as Great as Him. To dishonor him that much is blasphemy. God is much much more than a man. God created everything heaven AND Earth.

I am pretty sure God minds that mormons are saying the 1. there is more than one God.
2. He is only but a ressurected man.
 
insidemymemory said:
Except Mormons think God was just a man and that they too can be as Great as Him. To dishonor him that much is blasphemy. God is much much more than a man. God created everything heaven AND Earth.

I am pretty sure God minds that mormons are saying the 1. there is more than one God.
2. He is only but a ressurected man.
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That’s pretty much the definition of blasphemy- confusing the created order for the creator. By claiming that God is God by virtue of preexisting natural laws is falling right into the blasphemy trap.
 
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