No, No, and No.
You don’t believe that Jesus’ atonement is enough to save you though. That is a heresy in
AND THAT AUTOMATICALLY ALSO Disqualifies Mormons from being Christian, as it is one
There is no difficulty here. God is precisely as he has appeared to every person who has ever seen him, an exaulted, perfected, person.So “The Father” is some sort of entity that walks around somewhere in the universe with a “body of flesh and bones?” Huh? Now I REALLY don’t understand Mormons!
You see everybody, Mormons contradict the Bible:
Best summation I have read in a long time.
And who has seen the Father, Janderich? Only the Son.
Thank you for the answer! God bless you !
This is incorrect (also, you can’t say “despite their understanding of the Trinity”, then go on to say “they still believe in the same Jesus Christ, fully God and Man”. It doesn’t logically follow.). I believe I already addressed your incorrect viewpoint on this in another thread:
Mormons are taught there was a great apostasy after Christ and the apostles died (a total and complete falling away). They are taught they have the only true church and priesthood authority from Christ that was restored through the prophet Joseph Smith. They teach that the apostles Peter, James, and John appeared to Smith and gave him the authority. They teach that Joseph Smith saw God the Father and Jesus Christ as separate beings. Joesph Smith taught that God the Father has a body of flesh and bones and is a glorified being. Now that I’ve listened to other Christians, I see I am not a Christian. I was given a totally distorted idea of God and Jesus. Now I find out Jesus is God incarnate. There never was a pre-mortal life. Much of what we were taught creates distrust and inability to become close to those outside the church.
Agreed.
Having been Mormon and now not, I see what you are saying from both sides. It is true, there is an isolationism mindset. They will tell you it is not true, but then they are taught they have the “truth” and everyone else is being lead astray by Satan, so it foments distrust. My immediate family is the only non-Mormons on my side. When I announced my departure, I was censored - I was literally told to keep it to myself. Now they talk about Mormonism to a greater degree and I am expected to hold my tongue. As converts tend to do, I am on fire with love for The Lord and His church, but am incapable of addressing my family. It is a level of frustration that is quite irritating, particularly around holidays when I see them more. I keep drafting letters (which I never send) hoping to show them my life, me as a person, their two-faced attitudes, but I wave off as it turns into a novel. Some Mormons may not know their theology to the degree you’ve just read here, the “deeper” stuff mentioned above does not get a lot of press. That is sad also that you can’t hold a very effective conversation with most, cause the buck stops at their “testimony” - the subjective personal conviction that they are members of the “true” church. When facts, logic, reason, any of God’s gifts dispute/distract from their conviction, they will hit the “I Believe” button and claim you need to have faith, it’ll all make sense on the other side.
LOL! “We need to pass the bill to see what’s really in it.”
D&C was written after the scriptures were written though, so it’s a man-made protestant teaching. I’m not saying that to argue because I come from a Seventh-day Adventist protesatnt church myself, but even Ellen White had her own interpretation that was "wo"man-made. She’s just as much a protestant teacher as Smith was: not lower, not higher. I had to look at what came before Ellen White, before the protestant reformation, to discover the source of what doctrines were taught back to the apostles and the traditions carried on by their disciples (ante-nicene fathers book series). It’s really worth checking it out and see what they taught before Smith, Ellen White, and any other post-protestant teacher who have great new epiphanies. I discovered the early church fathers were indeed Catholic by doctrine. I had to learn to seek, anyway. I know what it is like. Christ still loves us all whether we’re Mormon, Seventh-day Adventist, Jehovah Witness, etc. If we humbly seek him, we will surely find him and his church he said would be here forever (SDA’s started in the 19th century, so that can’t be valid, for example). I still want to learn what mormons fully believe though to understand their doctrines more for educational value. I saw a few walking by lately, so maybe I’ll be able to grab them.