Morphine

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Is it okay to receive morphine when in a serious accident and why
 
If it’s a serious accident, it’s safe to assume that there is serious pain. With serious pain comes loud screaming. With loud screaming comes nervous/agitated doctors. With agitated doctors come surgical/medical mistakes. With surgical/medical mistakes come bad consequences for the body, which is a temple of the Holy Spirit.

Take your morphine, try not to get addicted and try not to do anything stupid while under the influence.
 
mdkirkbride said:
Many doctors will recommend abortions or euthanasia. Not related to the OP’s issue, but still I’m not sure I’d agree with that statement.
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yeah I was thinking the same thing. Way too broad a statement lol.

Drunkenness is a sin when the object of the action is to lose your ability to think clearly. Drinking alcohol or taking morphine is not wrong in and of itself. When the object of your action is to get drunk/lose your ability to think clearly is when its sin. If your taking it on a doctor’s orders for extreme pain the object of the action is to address the pain, not lose your ability to think clearly.

However, you will still lose your ability to think clearly plus possibly becoming addicted to it when you take it and these bad effects must be balanced against the good effect of numbing the pain. This is why morphine is only given out in cases of extreme pain. In other lesser cases of pain the potential benefits do not outweigh the negative effects.
 
I guess I was thinking along the lines of the end not justifying the means, with the end being relieving pain, but the means being using drugs that alter your state of mind, which is why I thought was the main reason why drugs are gravely sinful.
 
I don’t believe drugs are gravely sinful. If you are a diabetic you should take your insulin as prescribed. The action of abusing drugs, now that may be gravely sinful.
 
PeteZaHut said:
I guess I was thinking along the lines of the end not justifying the means, with the end being relieving pain, but the means being using drugs that alter your state of mind, which is why I thought was the main reason why drugs are gravely sinful.
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Therapeutic drugs, properly prescribed are not sinful. There is no teaching against drugs that alter your state of mind, if they are medically needed. This includes pain killers such as morphine, sedatives, anti-psychotic drugs, anti-depression drugs, etc.
 
mdkirkbride said:
Many doctors will recommend abortions or euthanasia. Not related to the OP’s issue, but still I’m not sure I’d agree with that statement.
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Only 6 posts in on a topic not at all related to abortion. I think we have a new record for CAF’s only version of Godwin’s law.

Anyway, if I was in pain I would be asking why they hadn’t given it to me already.
 
LemonAndLime said:
Only 6 posts in on a topic not at all related to abortion. I think we have a new record for CAF’s only version of Godwin’s law.
Anyway, if I was in pain I would be asking why they hadn’t given it to me already.
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PeteZaHut said:
I guess I was thinking along the lines of the end not justifying the means, with the end being relieving pain, but the means being using drugs that alter your state of mind, which is why I thought was the main reason why drugs are gravely sinful.
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Using your line of thinking, use of anesthesia during surgery - which is not only mind-altering but renders one unconscious (just like going on a drunken binge!) - would also be sinful, which it is clearly not. Using your line of thinking, surgery itself - deliberately maiming the body! - would also be wrong. You need to think more maturely about real issues concerning ends, means, and intent.
 
1ke said:
Can you tell us why you think it **wouldn’t **be? What commandment would you break?
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I was thinking the exact some thing.

OP, endure a compound ankle fracture and see how long you last without morphine. Study that bone sticking out of your leg and tell the doctor, “You know what, I’m going to take a pass on that morphine drip you’re ordering because I might get addicted.”

That is if you can speak at all. Most of us can just scream and moan.
 
Tarpeian_Rock said:
Using your line of thinking, use of anesthesia during surgery - which is not only mind-altering but renders one unconscious (just like going on a drunken binge!) - would also be sinful, which it is clearly not. Using your line of thinking, surgery itself - deliberately maiming the body! - would also be wrong. You need to think more maturely about real issues concerning ends, means, and intent.
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haha ouch
 
Luna_Lovecraft said:
I was thinking the exact some thing.

OP, endure a compound ankle fracture and see how long you last without morphine. Study that bone sticking out of your leg and tell the doctor, “You know what, I’m going to take a pass on that morphine drip you’re ordering because I might get addicted.”

That is if you can speak at all. Most of us can just scream and moan.
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You cannot be addicted to morphine and other pain killers so long as you are in pain. It’s only when you take them when you’re not in pain that it becomes a problem.
 
LemonAndLime said:
You cannot be addicted to morphine and other pain killers so long as you are in pain. It’s only when you take them when you’re not in pain that it becomes a problem.
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Understood, but the OP asked about taking morphine after an accident. My compound fracture was the result of an accident, and you can bet the farm I was screaming for pain relief by the time I got to hospital. I was in no condition to weigh the morality of pain relief.

People in the UK have a much better understanding of palliative care than Americans. We’re getting better at it, but deep in our collective psyches we still think that pain is something we should endure stoically, like the Duke would have wanted us to.

Luna
 
Luna_Lovecraft said:
Understood, but the OP asked about taking morphine after an accident. My compound fracture was the result of an accident, and you can bet the farm I was screaming for pain relief by the time I got to hospital. I was in no condition to weigh the morality of pain relief.

People in the UK have a much better understanding of palliative care than Americans. We’re getting better at it, but deep in our collective psyches we still think that pain is something we should endure stoically, like the Duke would have wanted us to.

Luna
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I know what the OP asked, but others have mentioned the problem of addiction.

A lot of painkillers we have for palliative pain are banned in the US.
 
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