Mortal sin awareness

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When someone determines to end their mariage through the courts as opposed to throught the church is it our obligation to advise them that entering into another marriage is entering into a perpetual state of adultery. If they go throught their life not knowing this, is that better than bringing it to their attention, which makes it a mortal sin as i believe that adultery is a grave sin.
 
BKulash_eski said:
When someone determines to end their mariage through the courts as opposed to throught the church is it our obligation to advise them that entering into another marriage is entering into a perpetual state of adultery. If they go throught their life not knowing this, is that better than bringing it to their attention, which makes it a mortal sin as i believe that adultery is a grave sin.
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The Church has no authority to end a valid marriage.

So, remarriage after a divorce from a valid marriage is adultery. Adultery is grave matter and can be a mortal sin.

A decision to inform an individual or couple of these facts requires prudence.
 
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If they go throught their life not knowing this, is that better than bringing it to their attention, which makes it a mortal sin as i believe that adultery is a grave sin.
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What releases someone from culpability for mortal sin is INVINCIBLE ignorance. Mere ignorance as a result of their negligence to understand catholic teaching is not an excuse. They have a duty to familiarize themselves as best they can with catholic teaching on the matter. Provided they live in a modern society with information access, it would be pretty hard to argue that they had no ability to learn that this would be adultery and therefore be invincibly ignorant.

In other words, you wouldn’t be protecting them by NOT telling them, but telling them, as said above, would have to involve prudence and compassion.

And the church does not offer divorces, nor does it absolve valid marraiges. The church only ceritifies that through a fault in the original “marraige”, sacramental bond was prevented and no marraige ever actually existed.
 
Following a civil divorce, a couple is still married in the eyes of the Church until the granting of an anullment.

It is not acceptable for divorced Catholics to persue a romantic interest nor should they date. Any romantic relationship would be considered adulterous prior to an anullment.
 
I will thank God for those who have helped me with this. I ask for all those who read this thread to pray for the children of divorce, to recognize that they should not be afflicted by their parents misguidance, and for those trusted with the responsibility of parenting to be aware of how they effect and affect the lives they have been blessed with.
I have been afflicted with this since the age of eight, and now, I believe, that it has come full circle. My wife has left me. this could be punishment for never saying to my parents request a tribunal, or something to that affect, Now I pray daily for my wife to reconcile with the church, return to her true self, and find the moral courage to stop the perpetual state of mortal sin she has entered.
If you would like to pray for her, her name is Celena Kulaszewski(kulash_eski), her baptismal name was Mashagh( mash ahg).
We should not be afflicted by the ignorance of our parents, especially our parents in-law.
 
I have been divorced/remarried (no children from first marriage). I respect the RCC and will not violate any rules. (divorce occurred 30+ years ago in my 20’s when I was VERY ignorant, foolish and way to trusting regarding relationships and life in general.) It has been very painful all these years knowing how badly I failed my Savior. I did marry outside the church (25 years ago) to a wonderful man who is a christian, wonderful father and husband. We have two loving, well adjusted christian kids. (Believe me, my kids have had lots of guidance/mentoring/education regarding relationships and life in general. My daughter recently read a great book called “Whom Not to Marry” by Fr. O’Connor.)

I live a few states away from extended family and there is a wedding coming up in the family. If I attend the wedding, will I be committing a sin of “scandal” since parish members at my extended family’s church probably know about me. I would NEVER take Communion because I know that is in severe violation. I’ve read some RCC websites that suggest someone in my situation would be demeaning the wedding and disrespecting other church members, especially ones that know of my history. It is a small church.

Do you have any insight into this situation? Thank you.

Romans 5:8
 
LSIP,

Attend the wedding, it is not scandal to go to a wedding mass. Just don’t take communion.

Have you talked to your priest about the possibility that your first marraige could have been non-sacramental? If not, I would recommend sitting down with your priest and discussing the situation, if nothing else then for some good counseling.
 
Promethius,

Sorry this post/reply is terribly tardy. I have enough anguish regarding the divorce/remarriage issue, that at the time I first posted, I didn’t want to answer. The answer to your question about “sitting down with a priest” to discuss the matter is “no.” At the time of the break up, a priest told me I was going to hell for getting a divorce. At the time I was so angry that he never really asked me anything about the problems. I know I was wrong to not seek advice from another priest. In despair I turned away, relocated to another state, and for several years didn’t even attend a church. I didn’t know that it was not a sin to be divorced but that remarriage is the big grave sin. (I know its my fault for turning away for so long.) Just wanted a chance at a decent trusting relationship, so I remarried a several years later. Anyway, my present marriage is 25 years old now and doing well. After reading other posts and how irritated many “good catholics” are about people like me, I do not, out of respect, attend a catholic church. Because as you say, the church will not end a marriage. I know all about annulments and how controversial they are. Thank you for asking about my position with the church. I know you are very passionate.

I do hope & pray you are well and safe. Thanks for military service. :blessyou:
 
BKulash_eski said:
When someone determines to end their mariage through the courts as opposed to throught the church is it our obligation to advise them that entering into another marriage is entering into a perpetual state of adultery. If they go throught their life not knowing this, is that better than bringing it to their attention, which makes it a mortal sin as i believe that adultery is a grave sin.
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We are obliged to admonish the sinner. It is one of the Spiritual Works of Mercy. Allowing someone to live on in ingorance is irresponsible discipleship.
 
LSIP said:
After reading other posts and how irritated many “good catholics” are about people like me, I do not, out of respect, attend a catholic church.
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Do not worry about respecting the other Catholics, respect the Lord and come home. I don’t know what a “good Catholic” is- unless it is a sinner who admits and confesses his sin. I don’t know what the circumstance of your first marriage was, but the priest was wrong to blow you off. Circumstance does matter, and if the marriage was not sacramental, you are eligible for an annulment. Some say that they are given to freely these days, and that may be so- I don’t know. What I do know is that there are instances where it is perfectly valid and appropriate to get an annulment. Please look into it. You sound as though you are living in a shadow of guilt. It is the devil, not the Lord, who would keep you away from the Church. Talk to a priest. Come home.
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It has been very painful all these years knowing how badly I failed my Savior.
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That is what confession is for! Do not live with this guilt. Jesus offers his forgiveness freely; go to confession! Do you think He cannot forgive you? Do you not know he has forgiven much worse?
 
Beth_Cecilia said:
Do not worry about respecting the other Catholics, respect the Lord and come home. I don’t know what a “good Catholic” is
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A good Catholic is not something that you are. A good Catholic is something you strive to be.
 
LSIP said:
Promethius,

Sorry this post/reply is terribly tardy. I have enough anguish regarding the divorce/remarriage issue, that at the time I first posted, I didn’t want to answer. The answer to your question about “sitting down with a priest” to discuss the matter is “no.” At the time of the break up, a priest told me I was going to hell for getting a divorce. At the time I was so angry that he never really asked me anything about the problems. I know I was wrong to not seek advice from another priest. In despair I turned away, relocated to another state, and for several years didn’t even attend a church. I didn’t know that it was not a sin to be divorced but that remarriage is the big grave sin. (I know its my fault for turning away for so long.) Just wanted a chance at a decent trusting relationship, so I remarried a several years later. Anyway, my present marriage is 25 years old now and doing well. After reading other posts and how irritated many “good catholics” are about people like me, I do not, out of respect, attend a catholic church. Because as you say, the church will not end a marriage. I know all about annulments and how controversial they are. Thank you for asking about my position with the church. I know you are very passionate.

I do hope & pray you are well and safe. Thanks for military service. :blessyou:
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First, divorce is not a sin - it’s the remarriage that is against the Church. The Church does realize that in some instances, divorce may be necessary. Also, I don’t think annulments are controversial. I obtained one myself. They do require some work, though (interview with Priest, obtaining witnesses, and the process can take up to 2 years), but well worth it! You should really look into it, especially if you have interest in returning to the Catholic Church. What have you got to lose???

Please don’t let the misguiding of one priest or the “irritated good catholics” keep you from our Lord! We are all human and are subject to sin, even priests. I should say ESPECIALLY priests! Satan attacks the priests with all his might. If you see a solution to the problem of your invalid marriage, seek out that solution and come back to the Church. Don’t you miss our Lord in the Eucharist? I noticed in one of your posts you mention that your first marriage ended when you were in your 20s - many annulments are granted due to the fact that the parties entering into “marriage” were too immature to fully consent to the marriage.

Jesus Christ established His one true Church on earth and entrusted it to man. Unfortunately, man isn’t perfect and these evils that chase people out of the Church are the handiwork of the devil - and the devil rejoices every time he gets someone to turn away from the Church!

If you give it another try and go talk to your parish priest, you may be pleasantly surprised. Most priests are good and would welcome the opportunity to help you get back to the Church. They are our sheppherds and their job is to lead us to Christ. Our parish priest is always inviting people with invalid marriages to come and speak with him about rectifying the situation. Sometimes it’s easier than you would think. Just give it a try. The most you can lose is a half hour of your time investigating your options.
 
Lost_Sheep said:
A good Catholic is not something that you are. A good Catholic is something you strive to be.
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A good Catholic according to “RealCatholicTV.com” is a “non-cafeteria” Catholic. (one that believes and follows ALL teachings of the church.) I’m sure if you read “Vox Nova” they will have a different definition. In my research of the RCC - there seems to be a real liberal vs conservative division.

I know many followers of the RCC who believe in gay marriage, abortion and other issues against the teachings of the church. (I think they are referred to as cafeteria catholics if I understand the issue correctly.) My guess is that they consider themselves good catholics too.) 🤷
 
Beth_Cecilia said:
Do not worry about respecting the other Catholics, respect the Lord and come home. I don’t know what a “good Catholic” is- unless it is a sinner who admits and confesses his sin. I don’t know what the circumstance of your first marriage was, but the priest was wrong to blow you off. Circumstance does matter, and if the marriage was not sacramental, you are eligible for an annulment. Some say that they are given to freely these days, and that may be so- I don’t know. What I do know is that there are instances where it is perfectly valid and appropriate to get an annulment. Please look into it. You sound as though you are living in a shadow of guilt. It is the devil, not the Lord, who would keep you away from the Church. Talk to a priest. Come home.

That is what confession is for! Do not live with this guilt. Jesus offers his forgiveness freely; go to confession! Do you think He cannot forgive you? Do you not know he has forgiven much worse?
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Can you please explain what you mean? Annulment is about whether a marriage is valid or invalid and has nothing to do with it being sacramental or not. A marriage can be valid but not sacramental.
 
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