Moslem pray for Muhamad to enter the heaven

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R. Gonzales

To Muslims, Jesus (Isa) was a prophet.
  1. What prophecies of Isa (Jesus) do Muslims BELEVE?
  2. What prophecies of Isa (Jesus) do Muslims DO NOT BELIEVE?
 
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r.gonzales:
yes, in his grave, just like every other human being that has died - including all other prophets and messengers. this is what we musilms believe.

as for jesus, then we don’t believe he is dead - that’s why he’s not in his grave. we don’t even believe he died like you believe. to add to that, we don’t even believe he was crucified, like you believe.

as for followers praying for their leaders being sad, Allah tells us in the Quran to ask for forgiveness for the those who preceded us in faith. and we ask Allah to shower His blessings upon all His prophets and messengers. i fail to see how that can be sad. asking for these things are considered good deeds, and the more you do it, the more deeds you accumulate. there’s nothing sad about that.

as for what you mention about the people in heaven, muslims don’t believe that anyone is in paradise yet. paradise will be populated after the day of judgement. muslims also believe that the dead cannot hear you, so asking them to pray for us is useless because those prayers fall on ears that cannot hear. people who waste their time doing such things… now that’s what’s really sad :nope:.
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Gon,
Get your facts straight about Islam, Muslims believe that Jesus was taken body and soul to heaven and is not waiting in His grave. It is He who comes on the day of judgement and not Muhammed.
 
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Fox:
Gon,
Get your facts straight about Islam, Muslims believe that Jesus was taken body and soul to heaven and is not waiting in His grave. It is He who comes on the day of judgement and not Muhammed.
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did you read his post? He said, and i quote “as for jesus, then we don’t believe he is dead - that’s why he’s not in his grave”
 
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hlgomez:
So now, prove to us by whose authority does your interpretation of Islam to be correct and the muslim terrorists aren’t? You both claim to be followers of Islam and prophet Muhammad.
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let’s flip this around… how about you prove that your interpretation of christianity is correct and the KKK’s false?
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R. Gonzales

To Muslims, Jesus (Isa) was a prophet.
  1. What prophecies of Isa (Jesus) do Muslims BELEVE?
  2. What prophecies of Isa (Jesus) do Muslims DO NOT BELIEVE?
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perhaps learning the islamic definition of what a prophet is would be beneficial for you… :hmmm: .
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Fox:
Gon,
Get your facts straight about Islam, Muslims believe that Jesus was taken body and soul to heaven and is not waiting in His grave. It is He who comes on the day of judgement and not Muhammed.
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fo, perhaps you need to read more cafefully? :ehh:
 
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ronald:
my friend, there is always azan mahgrib on television in my country, and just before it an ayat is spoken in Indonesian language (on television too) which says: " God Almighty please give Muhammad an honored place as you promise" of course i don’t know where that ayat is located in Qur’an, find it yourself.
come and prove it yourself.
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Hi there

Now you are changing your stance just like your sham god Jesus. First an “Ayah” can’t be in Indonesian language. Second you claimd that they recite an Ayah before the Azan, which I asked to to quote? Now you are running like your sham god Jesus ran from Jerusalem because Pharisees were bebunking him left and right. I simply don’t believe you as Christian, the only way you can be trusted is to post/quote the Ayah as you claimed in your post. Otherwise you are as liar as Jesus was.

What kind of imbecilic statement is this? “come and prove youself.”

Hey, burden of proof is upon you, since you are making claims. When I will make any claim,I will present the proof.

For exmaple I say Jesus was a bastard or illegitame child. I can prove that from your own NT.

I say Jesus was a liar, which I can prove that from your NT.

I say Jesus was a false Messiah that I can prove from your NT.

I say Jesus was a terrorist, I can prove that from your NT.

Regards
Preacher
 
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r.gonzales:
you’re not even sure if it’s an actual verse from the Quran!

the burden of proof is upon the claimant and you’re the one making a claim here, so it is upon you to bring your proof.

sorry ron, but speaking without knowledge just makes people look foolish.
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it is on television my friend!!! and if you want a proof just come to indonesia to watch it or ask your guru or muslim’s friend.
 
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ronald:
it is on television my friend!!! and if you want a proof just come to indonesia to watch it or ask your guru or muslim’s friend.
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Hi there

Christians’ pornography is also on TV, should I claim that it is prayer for Jesus’ salvation or following Jesus adulterous behavior of banging Mary Magdalane? You know that Jesus was bi-sexual. Proof is here:
bare-jesus.net/

Regards
Preacher
 
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Preacher:
Hi there

Now you are changing your stance just like your sham god Jesus. First an “Ayah” can’t be in Indonesian language. Second you claimd that they recite an Ayah before the Azan, which I asked to to quote? Now you are running like your sham god Jesus ran from Jerusalem because Pharisees were bebunking him left and right. I simply don’t believe you as Christian, the only way you can be trusted is to post/quote the Ayah as you claimed in your post. Otherwise you are as liar as Jesus was.

What kind of imbecilic statement is this? “come and prove youself.”

Hey, burden of proof is upon you, since you are making claims. When I will make any claim,I will present the proof.

For exmaple I say Jesus was a bastard or illegitame child. I can prove that from your own NT.

I say Jesus was a liar, which I can prove that from your NT.

I say Jesus was a false Messiah that I can prove from your NT.

I say Jesus was a terrorist, I can prove that from your NT.

Regards
Preacher
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i never write ayah but ayat. that ayat is translated to Indonesian and recited on television. the proof is on television for years.

nb: may He forgive you for your bad words about Him.
 
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Preacher:
Hi there

Christians’ pornography is also on TV, should I claim that it is prayer for Jesus’ salvation or following Jesus adulterous behavior of banging Mary Magdalane? You know that Jesus was bi-sexual. Proof is here:
bare-jesus.net/

Regards
Preacher
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Do you say that there is no such ayat in Qur’an saying that? it is on television every day. My government will absolutely ban it if there is no such ayat saying that.

of course not, it is not from the bible.
 
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ronald:
Do you say that there is no such ayat in Qur’an saying that?
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Hi there

I am not sure what type of imbecile you are, but I am glad that I didn’t father you. You posted a lie to started this thread.** I demanded the proof, plain and simple. You ran cowardly like your sham god Jesus. Case closed, I proved my point that you are a liar**. So your question is idiotic under that premise.
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ronald:
it is on television every day. My government will absolutely ban it if there is no such ayat saying that.

of course not, it is not from the bible.
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I don’t concern myslef with your government and you, both of you are noentity to me.

Regards
Preacher
 
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Preacher:
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My government don’t ban and neither do the muslim leaders in my country. It’s been for years my friend. How come it’s a lie.
 
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ronald:
My government don’t ban and neither do the muslim leaders in my country. It’s been for years my friend. How come it’s a lie.
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Hi there

Are you trying to prove that you are the dumbest person here? Then please be advised you have already proved this, and now it is overkill. All I am interested in that, you post that alleged “Ayah” you have claimed is read at the beginning of the Azan on TV in your country?

But you have been pussfooting around my question and responses. Get a life!

Regards
Preacher
 
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Preacher:
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Regards
Preacher
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i never write ayaH! but an ayaT saying “God Almighty please give muhammad an honored place as You promise”. and that ayaT is not banned to be on television by government or muslim leaders.
 
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ronald:
i never write ayaH you dummy! but an ayaT saying “God Almighty please give muhammad an honored place as You promise”. and that ayaT is not banned to be on television by government or muslim leaders.
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Hi there

It is not me who is dummy, you who has just admitted that.
Ayah is singular and Ayat is plural.

Again,I don’t believe you, I will also not take your version of transaltion at all. I have already rejected your claim and your transaltion (both).

Post the actual wording or if it is an Ayah or Ayat, than quote the chapter and Ayah number/s?

Case closed!

Regards
Preacher
 
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Preacher:
Hi there

It is not me who is dummy, you who has just admitted that.
Ayah is singular and Ayat is plural.

Again,I don’t believe you, I will also not take your version of transaltion at all. I have already rejected your claim and your transaltion (both).

Post the actual wording or if it is an Ayah or Ayat, than quote the chapter and Ayah number/s?

Case closed!

Regards
Preacher
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ayat is singular in Indonesian language and it’s not my version, just quote it from tv, and ayah means father. God Bless you.
 
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r.gonzales:
greetings booklover.

is this the reply you have everytime you get cornered by something you can’t deny? you’re the one who cried foul by accusing me of having double standards, yet now, with this statement of yours, you’re the one demonstrating that you weigh things according to two scales :tsktsk: .

everytime you accuse prophet muhammad of being a false prophet and a liar, you try to discredit islam.
everytime you claim that the Quran was written by muhammad or that it contains contradiction or that it is filled with lies, you try to discredit islam.
everytime you claim that islam is a religion of violence and hate, you try to discredit islam.

so, it goes both ways, dear.
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All I’m trying to say is that from the beginning Islam has been trying to discredit what we believe, not the other way around! Catholicism was already here for 600 years before Mohammed came along and claimed that the main tenets of our faith are all lies: Our scriptures are corrupted, there is no such thing as the Trinity, Jesus is not God and didn’t die on the cross, the Holy Spirit is not the Paraclete! Every time I turn around some new doubt is cast on our faith!

Mr. Gomez went to painstaking lengths to write down all the information about the apostles and it seems that you’ve ignored what he wrote. Of course I suppose that to a Muslim any refutation by a Christian is not worth a hill of beans!

Did you even bother to read what I wrote about Padre Pio? I suppose that that’s more Christian nonsense right?

Are these some more things that Muslims believe about Jesus? I got these disguting items from "Preacher"s website: Jesus was a false prophet, he was the devil’s soul mate, he committed adultery with the woman at the well, the woman caught in adultery and Mary Magdalen, he was also bi-sexual and was a terrorist, yes, he got drunk and he and his Hamas friends trashed the temple! How do you think I felt when I read all that!

Anyway to get back to the main thing. It’s like fitting pieces of a puzzle, but that puzzle was already complete before Mohammed came along. Everything had already happened as we had been told. There were no missing pieces. Then Mohammed comes along with his revelations and starts removing pieces of that puzzle and starts putting in pieces that don’t fit! The puzzle was complete, Mr. Gonzales, it’s Mohammed that doesn’t fit!

Couldn’t Mohammed have proven his prophethood without claiming that Jesus was not God and all the rest of it? Let’s be honest now, could he? If Jesus WAS God, would Mohammed be needed at all? 🙂
 
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Booklover:
I don’t care who you are either, but I will say that YOU ARE VULGAR AND DISGUSTING!
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finally, something we agree on! ha.

nb: no true muslim would ever speak in such derogatory ways about prophet jesus.
 
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r.gonzales:
finally, something we agree on! ha.

nb: no true muslim would ever speak in such derogatory ways about prophet jesus.
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r. gonzales,

why did Allah create man, according to the Qur’an?
 
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