Mother God???

[Hellisreal]

myfavoritmartin, this thread isn’t about your pointing out to us Catholics about how wrong we are, there are enough threads for that.

Lexee, are they saying that there are scripture passages that refer to ‘Mother God’ (such as ‘Sophia’ or are they using Dan Brown’s 'the Jews combined their male and female gods to get Jehovah) or are they saying that the Bible was written in a male dominated society and so we can look beyond the gender-specific ‘Our Father’ based on our more ‘englightened’ modern views?

Edit: There’s nothing on their website about ‘Mother God’. Just generic protestantism with specifics about Saturday Worship, ‘return-to-our-Jewish-roots’, some anti-Christmas and Catholic belief stuff and, interestingly, something about women needing to wear a veil.

The veil is in corinthians.

I am more interested in the citations to support Mother God in the bible personally.

Good points! On Jehovah, especially!

 

[Hellisreal]

Tips- read the who we are part and then, simply see that this is simply and utterly nonsense.

 

[Lexee15]

Lexee, are they saying that there are scripture passages that refer to ‘Mother God’ (such as ‘Sophia’ or are they using Dan Brown’s 'the Jews combined their male and female gods to get Jehovah) or are they saying that the Bible was written in a male dominated society and so we can look beyond the gender-specific ‘Our Father’ based on our more ‘englightened’ modern views?

Edit: There’s nothing on their website about ‘Mother God’. Just generic protestantism with specifics about Saturday Worship, ‘return-to-our-Jewish-roots’, some anti-Christmas and Catholic belief stuff and, interestingly, something about women needing to wear a veil.

They are saying that there is scripture to back up the “mother god” notion. That’s why they say “don’t take my word for it, come so I can show you where it says that we have a mother god and a Father God,” when I brought up Mary they said she was a good holy woman, but was only used to bring the successor of David into the world and then she went on with her life…you know having more children.

I also looked at their page and I couldn’t find anything specific on mother god, but I did see places where they mention mother god & father god and the heavenly family. Anyway, that’s all I have except for a phone number if I decide to attend the bible study.

 

[Hellisreal]

They are saying that there is scripture to back up the “mother god” notion. That’s why they say “don’t take my word for it, come so I can show you where it says that we have a mother god and a Father God,” when I brought up Mary they said she was a good holy woman, but was only used to bring the successor of David into the world and then she went on with her life…you know having more children.

Dont freak on this horror, Protestants hold this view in majority. In fact, I often wonder if any dont hold this view…

I also looked at their page and I couldn’t find anything specific on mother god, but I did see places where they mention mother god & father god and the heavenly family. Anyway, that’s all I have except for a phone number if I decide to attend the bible study.

Why would you attend a study without a mission statement or statement of beliefs clearly spelled out?

If you can find that for me, let me know where it is.

 

[Rawb]

I’d almost be tempted to go just to see what verses they came up with, but probably not go in the end.

Maybe just call and ask them which verses they use, “because I’d like to judge for myself before I attend?”

LoL, no, I’d probably just move on, unless I saw them again in the future.

The veil is in corinthians.

Yeah, I knew that, but I’d never seen a Protestant advocate it before. Just thought it was funny/interesting.

 

[Hellisreal]

Yeah, I knew that, but I’d never seen a Protestant advocate it before. Just thought it was funny/interesting.

Agreed! I have not seen a protestant give me an answer on that one!

They usually give me the old Freedom in Christ number…

Well, I could go to this thing, its only an hour away. I would need some notice, but I would go if the date is workable, I have a pre schooler, and have to be home by bedtime for the child. Other than that, I would be happy to go with all my bibles!

 

[Lexee15]

Why would you attend a study without a mission statement or statement of beliefs clearly spelled out?

If you can find that for me, let me know where it is.

I don’t want to attend, I don’t feel like I could defend the faith or counter their attacks and nonsense appropriately.

I am not an apologist, I am still learning. I can explain it and defend it to a degree, but I would be going into the “lions den” on this one, they’d eat me alive. That’s why I put it out there to see if anyone else would be interested in going, someone who knows much more than I do.

It’s sad to know they are spreading their nonsense to people who are weak in their faith and easily convinced. I mean come on…at the mall, they are zealous, I’ll give them that.

 

[Hellisreal]

Stratford Square?

I don’t want to attend, I don’t feel like I could defend the faith or counter their attacks and nonsense appropriately.

I am not an apologist, I am still learning. I can explain it and defend it to a degree, but I would be going into the “lions den” on this one, they’d eat me alive. That’s why I put it out there to see if anyone else would be interested in going, someone who knows much more than I do.

It’s sad to know they are spreading their nonsense to people who are weak in their faith and easily convinced. I mean come on…at the mall, they are zealous, I’ll give them that.

 

[Lexee15]

Stratford Square?

No, we were at Yorktown in Lombard, I took ds to get a haircut, they cut so much hair I could’ve made a blanket.

 

[Zooey]

Oy!! Now there is a bunch of mixed up people…Did you read the part, where they said that the “Catholic Church murdered more than 60 million people in the Inquisition”?? Ummmmm…Yeah. Sure…Was there http://bestsmileys.com/clueless/5.gif anybody left?? Because, you know, they also made veiled references to other people killing a lot of people, & that would seem to leave us with a mystery: http://bestsmileys.com/clueless/4.gif Who are we?? Since the entire Human Race Wiped Itself Out In the Middle Ages, what planet are we from???
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Seriously, other than being aware that these guys exist, I would leave them alone. That is some seriously weird stuff there!!

 

[Jestocost]

Here’s a website from former members: ahnsahnghong.tripod.com/
Looks like their proof of a mother god consists of references to “mother Jerusalem”. Not sure how they get from that to godhood.

 

[Lexee15]

Here’s a website from former members: ahnsahnghong.tripod.com/
Looks like their proof of a mother god consists of references to “mother Jerusalem”. Not sure how they get from that to godhood.

Wow, just went to this website and looked around, this is scary!!! Scarier to know that they are doing this in malls, which makes sense if they are trying to recruit young people:tsktsk:!!!

This should serve as a word of CAUTION for all the parents of teens/young adults, if they go to the mall by themselves let them know that they may encounter this:banghead:!!!

 

[Archangel703]

They are the World Mission Society Church of God. They believe in a man named Ahnsanghong as the 2nd coming Christ. They stress the Saturday sabbath and the Feasts of the Old testament. They believe that a Korean Woman alive right now is in fact God in the flesh.

They also dangerously believe that the World will End before she dies. (they actually believe she can’t die but she’s getting old and the world will still keep turning when she is long gone) This will have a horrible fall out when all the members realize they have been deceived.

I must issue a warning to all of you here about them. I spent nearly 3 months studying their doctrines and theology intensely. They are rabidly anti-Catholic and are pulling Many, many Catholics from the church. Ive watched first hand the way they do it. It’s very subtle,

I was thinking about putting up a post regarding my findings and my experiences because there was a whole life changing experience that i went through last year dealing with this dangerous cult.

There are many Catholic families that are suffering and divided because of this cult. They claim over 800,000 Members worldwide and are just small enough to not be noticed and addressed by any Catholic Apologetics directly.

I am currently working on info for either a site/pamphlet to help Catholics deal with them directly. They are no joke. It sounds funny and obviously wrong, but i can not stress to all of you here how many people i watched be broken down and their brains filled with this False gospel.

Pray for these people. There are a lot of Catholic people out there that need help combating this Cult.

 

[guanophore]

Mormon’s DO teach about a “mother god” or “heavenly mother”. They teach that this is how our Heavenly Father creates “spirit children” that someday come to earth I know crazy.
I could be wrong, but the word “sabbath” does mean Saturday right? But we celebrate on Sunday because that is the day that Christ rose. I usually just read posts and don’t respond because I don’t want to sound like I don’t know what I’m talking about so if I’m wrong, please be kind.

No, you are right. Sabbath is sundown Friday to Sundown Saturday. The Church allows Christians to observe the Sabbath on Sunday (the Lord’s Day). The Church does not have the authority to “change” the Sabbath, an observance created by God. However, Jesus showed that the Sabbath was made for Man,and not man for the Sabbath, and that the common way of celebrating it in His day had lost focus. If Jesus wanted us to celebrate His resurrection on a Saturday, he waited too long to rise up!

 

[Pier]

And too…

Although not obligated to attend daily church services, Catholics have that option, also. :yup:

 

[Pier]

Well, not that it’s mandatory, but there’s always the option to attend the Mass on both days…

or even every day. :yup:

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

They are the World Mission Society Church of God. They believe in a man named Ahnsanghong as the 2nd coming Christ. They stress the Saturday sabbath and the Feasts of the Old testament. They believe that a Korean Woman alive right now is in fact God in the flesh.

They also dangerously believe that the World will End before she dies. (they actually believe she can’t die but she’s getting old and the world will still keep turning when she is long gone) This will have a horrible fall out when all the members realize they have been deceived.

I must issue a warning to all of you here about them. I spent nearly 3 months studying their doctrines and theology intensely. They are rabidly anti-Catholic and are pulling Many, many Catholics from the church. Ive watched first hand the way they do it. It’s very subtle,

I was thinking about putting up a post regarding my findings and my experiences because there was a whole life changing experience that i went through last year dealing with this dangerous cult.

There are many Catholic families that are suffering and divided because of this cult. They claim over 800,000 Members worldwide and are just small enough to not be noticed and addressed by any Catholic Apologetics directly.

I am currently working on info for either a site/pamphlet to help Catholics deal with them directly. They are no joke. It sounds funny and obviously wrong, but i can not stress to all of you here how many people i watched be broken down and their brains filled with this False gospel.

Pray for these people. There are a lot of Catholic people out there that need help combating this Cult.

Are these people related to the Moonies at all ?​

Their beliefs are so unlike anything remotely Christian that I can’t believe any Christian, Catholic or not, would fall for such garbage. It certainly does not say much for the quality of people’s Catholicism if they can be hoodwinked so easily Why aren’t people being given the kind of Christian formation that would forearm them against such rubbish ? Calvinists can do it - so why can’t Catholics ? Sometimes, one really has to wonder whether the CC has a death-wish.

 

[Archangel703]

They are unrelated to the moonies completely.

All I can say is this.
I have studied the faith, went to Catholic school most of my life. Studied outside of school in order to grow in the faith. Was purely convinced (still am) that no other church is Christ’s church other than the Catholic church yet…

It was about 3 weeks in when studying with these people that the very foundation was shaken beneath me. I quietly looked at the picture they have of their 2nd coming christ and thought in my own mind “…could you be real?..” I quickly snapped out of it within seconds of questioning myself but let me tell you all this. The fact that i had to 2nd guess myself is a testament to the power of a false prophet. Their theology though clearly twisted was presented very well.

This is the Power of a cunning false prophet. The Seduction of a true false prophet is incredible and i realize that now more than i gave it credit in the past.

You know you read it and hear it said many times “False teachings come from a False teacher of Evil spirit”…

I am convinced my fellow Catholics, without getting into any scary details. That this particular Cult is being led and guided by something very cunning and powerful that is “NOT” human. I am very convinced. I ask that you pray for me. Please pray for all those trapped in it. I too, mocked them in the beginning thinking to myself “how can people be so foolish to fall for this garbage” Until i witnessed first hand the seduction and subtle slithering of a false gospel at work.

What began about 7-8 months ago was an incredible spiritual journey (an awakening) that i’m still on at the moment. There was something very dark that did not want me there.

It was a life changing experience.
I thank God for opening my eyes and protecting me but at the same time these people need help. They are going to be devastated. It’s going to be a spiritual “death” for them much like the Jones town massacre but with their “faith” in God instead of physical death.

Their religion is like a ticking time bomb.

 

[Archangel703]

Has anyone else come into contact or heard of this cult. Recently their members went on a hacking spree and knocked out many blogs and sites that were writing against them (there arent many) and there are ZERO from a Catholic perspective…

What can be considered the main site against them and forums were also hacked and taken offline. The forums are back up but the site is down.

 

[Debra_C]

Mormon’s DO teach about a “mother god” or “heavenly mother”. They teach that this is how our Heavenly Father creates “spirit children” that someday come to earth I know crazy.
I could be wrong, but the word “sabbath” does mean Saturday right? But we celebrate on Sunday because that is the day that Christ rose. I usually just read posts and don’t respond because I don’t want to sound like I don’t know what I’m talking about so if I’m wrong, please be kind.

Sort of-- it is a stretch. It is generally frowned upon by the Mormon Church to teach about a “mother God” as nothing is revealed about it. Some have been censured for such in the LDS Church. However, it is a logical conclusion from one of their theological concepts–they teach that God has a wife, and Jesus is their begotten Son, literally. At least, that was my understanding.

As for the Sabbath thing-- yes, the seventh day in Jewish tradition is clearly Saturday. The reason the Church has transferred it to Sunday is quite simple. Not only did Jesus rise on a Sunday, but the earliest members of the Church were faithful Jews, who continued to keep the Sabbath according to Jewish tradition and then celebrated the Eucharist together on the Lord’s Day (Sunday).

The Mormons do not celebrate on Saturday, though. They recognize Sunday as the appropriate holy day just as we do. So, I really just have no idea what this group could be. Seventh Day Adventist is the only group I know of that teaches Christ but worships on Saturday, but I have not heard anything about them teaching about a “mother God.”