maryj:
Mary’s perpetual virginity…
(1) show me where Jesus’ Brothers are called “Sons of Mary”(all Scriprute you quoted in previous post indicates names of brothers of Jesus NOT sons of Mary)
In Biblical times, as in our own, the word “brother” is used in many different ways. It can indicate sibling,relative,friend,or associate. In Acts fellow Christians are called brothers Acts21:7 as are Jewish leaders(Acts 22:1)
Mary Queen of Heaven… oh no your not going to quote Jeremiah 7:18 are you!!!
I shall be a defender of Mary!
Good evening!
I just want to reliterate what has been mentioned before: Mary did not remain a virgin- the Word tells us that she had other children and that Joseph couldn’t have relations with her until ser concieved her first born…Matthew 1:24-25/ Mark 6:3/ John 2:17, Psalms 69:8-9/ John 7:5/ Galatians 1:19
Before reading the scriptures ask the holy ghost to fill you and guide you, 'cos only then will you be lead in truth. The scriptures does not need defending- it defend us.- read over the end of ephesians about type of defence it’s compared to: shield, amour, preparation, helmet…breastplate. Now it makes sense when the word says the battle is not yours…
The scriptures i gave you were not only indicative of what was being mentioned- mary having children, but some were prophetic scriptures. But you will not see that if you are not open to the teachings of the holy spirit, who will open the eyes of your understanding- revealling not only the letter of the scriptures but the spirit of the scriptures.
Pls read the following:
The Bible gives us many ways whereby we can clearly identify the Messiah. One of these ways is called a “sign” and is specifically linked to his miraculous birth. In the Book of Isaiah we read:
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel (Isa. 7:14, KJV).
Along with many other Scriptures, that passage clearly points us to the Lord Jesus, the Anointed One, who was born of a “virgin”. But even among those who agree that Mary was a virgin, at that point in time, there arises a controversy, that being: Did she stay a virgin after Jesus was born? Let’s go to the Scriptures to find the answer:
And Joseph, having risen from the sleep, did as the messenger of the Lord directed him, and received his wife, and did not KNOW her TILL she brought forth her son – the first-born, and he called his name Jesus (Matt. 1:24,25, Young’s Literal).
The Greek word translated “know” in that verse is ginosko. It is also used at Lk. 1:34, where it carries the same meaning:
And Mary said unto the messenger, “How shall this be, seeing a husband I do not know?” (Young’s Literal).
Mary couldn’t understand how she could possibly give birth without first coming to “know” her husband, that is, having sexual union. This is the meaning here and in Matt. 1:25 of ginosko. Such did not happen between Joseph and Mary “till” Jesus was born (Matt. 1:25).
Please note: Had the Holy Spirit wanted to convey the thought that Mary was a perpetual virgin her whole life through, He could have stopped Matt. 1:25 before the words: “TILL she brought forth her son.” Then the sentence would have taught Mary was a perpetual virgin by reading: “Joseph … did not know her” or as the NIV would have read: “But he had no union with her.” This, however, is NOT how the Biblical record reads! That verse states, by implication, that there was a point in time that Joseph and Mary had sexual union, that is, after Jesus was born. This is in perfect agreement with Isa. 7:14, and the other passages on this topic, yet to be cited in this article.
Let’s move on to a clear supportive text from Luke’s Gospel:
“And she gave birth to her FIRSTBORN, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn” (Luke 2:7, NIV).
The word “firstborn” is used elsewhere for the oldest of the children. Many examples in Scripture could be cited to prove this. The following are but two:
Joseph named his firstborn Manasseh and said, “It is because God has made me forget all my trouble and all my father’s household.” The second son he named Ephraim and said, “It is because God has made me fruitful in the land of my suffering” (Gen. 41:51,52).
The sons of Josiah: Johanan the firstborn, Jehoiakim the second son, Zedekiah the third, Shallum the fourth (1 Chron. 3:15).
Jesus was not called Mary’s “only-born” but instead Mary’s “firstborn,” thereby suggesting Mary had other children, which is indeed the case.
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, lol i have no idea what your trying to prove against me. Lord and master are synonym’s . figure it out.
