I don’t think the miracle was mentioned in the movie but I did read about it. It did not go much into his miracles which I was thinking it would. But all in all it was still a good movie. It accented the diabolic persecution he went through.
I was reading this post and then the soundtrack from Jaws just started running in my head.
A priest cited the Council of Jerusalem as an example.
I must see the movie, I wasn’t aware of it till this post. Just an amazing life.
adrift, I read to fast. I had to go back and read it again. My fault sorry.I didn’t realize that the LINK didn’t work. I don’t believe that the gender relation was dropped. I am not sure why you think so.
Where was that one found? I can recollect that one in my head but I can’t think of where to read it. Very good point though.
Stage left even.
i agree with you 100%. we all have our roles to play, and im glad mine is not having the babies…I am so against women priests. Our Spiritual Director is for it and we always end up in an argument over it.
This is all feminism gone mad.
dont think us guys could take the pain. I wouldn’t have known the link did not work so I am glad you posted.adrift, I read to fast. I had to go back and read it again. My fault sorry.
Where was that one found? I can recollect that one in my head but I can’t think of where to read it. Very good point though.
benedictus2:
When a man’s first recourse is the ad hominem, it’s clear that no meaningful conversation will be possible.
It is clear that no meaningful dialogue is possible when AnIrishLutheran starts accusing me of ad hominem when it is clear you do not even know what ad hominem means.
So here’s a little lesson so you will be less “ill-informed” (hope you realize that I am being cheeky here)
Ad Hominem -a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting).
This type of “argument” has the following form:
*]Person A makes claim X.
*]Person B makes an attack on person A.
*]Therefore A’s claim is false.
** Our discourse went something like this.**
A: The earth is flat
B: Only to the ill informed mind.
B’s response to A is not an “ad hominem” because it is truly only the ill-informed who will continue to hold to this day that the earth is flat. No doubt there are still flat earthers around but it is equally no doubt that they are ill informed to hold such a view.
Now here is a real ad hominem.
A (the village idiot) : Water is H2O.
B (the second village idiot) : You are an idiot and you were caught stealing some pigs so therefore you are wrong, water is not H2O.
**For my reply to your statement to be guilty of "**ad hominem" it should have gone something like this.
AIL : The petros/petra controversy most certainly exists.
Bene’s evil twin
But as you very well know, that is now how it transpired.
I** actually rebutted all the points you raised. When a person does that, addressing the arguments raised rather than the character of the other,** then it is not ad hominem.
And neither was I casting aspersions at you. To hold the view that you hold is indeed to be ill-informed. I refuted your points so that you will know why I said so.
There is nothing wrong with being ill-informed. None of us know everything so every one is ill-informed about one subject or another.
If you are after a civil dialogue then all you have to do is rebut.
But truly, this is just an excuse. Pull at the heart strings ( I can hear the violin in the background) and cry foul (when there is no reason) and hopefully this will give you a dramatic exit and obscure the fact that you have run out of rebuttals a****nd perhaps by exiting thus, no one will notice this absence of a rational response.
Great tactic but unfortunately, I’m on to that one as well.
Unwillingness to debate?
Well helloo, I rebutted all the points he raised. If anything IAL is is the one unwilling (but more like unable) to debate so pretends to be hurt so we will overlook the fact that he has no arguments forthcoming. Perhaps you had “selective reading syndrome” and so only saw the first sentence in a long two post rebuttal.Show where the insult is and the polemics are.
Yes there are indeed. Don’t be discouraged. This site is a good site for learning. At least now you know what Ad hominem means
I am probably a true feminist. I believe that what is essentially feminine should be valued. But what so called feminism has done has devalued what is essentially feminine and advanced the masculine cause by valuing that which is essentially masculine - demanding to be allowed to do “whatever the male does”.i agree with you 100%. we all have our roles to play, and im glad mine is not having the babies…
Benedictus, you go check the caravan. i shall go check the temple.
and i am certain that good Jewish women, including Peters wife, have had the same thought pattern as you. this is truly enlightened thinking. i always wondered why Catholic women, who truly practiced their faith, glowed. i have wonderful elderly ladies i pray the rosary with when im at home, who are absolutely radiant. and i believe they hold the same values as you. now i think i know. they radiate the light of Christ, and their Mother, Mary. PeaceI am probably a true feminist. I believe that what is essentially feminine should be valued. But what so called feminism has done has devalued what is essentially feminine and advanced the masculine cause by valuing that which is essentially masculine - demanding to be allowed to do “whatever the male does”.
So feminists are now for abortion (denying what really defines the women - this capacity and ability to give and nurture life) and look down on “stay at home mothers”. I would call that being masculinist
And now they work towards the feminization of the male sex. What an upside down world we live in.
I was thinking about the 7000 in his name. Maybe he has been…left behind.Benedictus, you go check the caravan. i shall go check the temple.