Movie "Arrival"

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I’m intrigued by this movie, thinking about asking my 14-daughter if she wants to see it. The rating is PG-13, supposedly for language. Has anyone seen it, and if so did you consider it suitable for a teen viewer?

Please don’t give away the ending. I understand there is some kind of twist ending, please don’t spoil it.

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louisak said:
I’m intrigued by this movie, thinking about asking my 14-daughter if she wants to see it. The rating is PG-13, supposedly for language. Has anyone seen it, and if so did you consider it suitable for a teen viewer?

Please don’t give away the ending. I understand there is some kind of twist ending, please don’t spoil it.

Thanks.
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I’d risk it even if there is a little language. It’s supposed to be one of the smartest Sci-Fi movies ever made and it’s got a 95% Fresh rating from Rotten Tomatoes (and the only bad reviews showed up very late almost as if they were contrary just to be contrary because it had been holding at 100%).
 
Padres1969 said:
I’d risk it even if there is a little language. It’s supposed to be one of the smartest Sci-Fi movies ever made and it’s got a 95% Fresh rating from Rotten Tomatoes (and the only bad reviews showed up very late almost as if they were contrary just to be contrary because it had been holding at 100%).
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Indeed, it sounds downright amazing! I haven’t seen it myself, but I’ve seen the trailers, and I know it’s VERY tense. Also, because it’s so linguistics-focused I’ve heard that it requires a lot of attention and thought to keep up with. Otherwise, I’d totally risk the language to see it.
 
Hawkmaid said:
Indeed, it sounds downright amazing! I haven’t seen it myself, but I’ve seen the trailers, and I know it’s VERY tense. Also, because it’s so linguistics-focused I’ve heard that it requires a lot of attention and thought to keep up with. Otherwise, I’d totally risk the language to see it.
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Well keep in mind the “language” is probably people cursing during tense situations where shock and surprise occur, which is frankly a very normal reaction that most of us would make if giant spacecraft appeared and started doing who knows what…
 
“Rotten Tomatoes.” What a stupid name. Never use it for anything or trust it. I’ll watch the trailers and take it from there. I’m tired of Profanity which has been relabeled as “Language” or “Strong Language” or “Adult Language.” I don’t plan on seeing this but I’ve read a review and I’ll only say I was not impressed. And plenty of really good SF movies were made in the past that had zero “Language.”

Ed
 
edwest2 said:
“Rotten Tomatoes.” What a stupid name. Never use it for anything or trust it. I’ll watch the trailers and take it from there. I’m tired of Profanity which has been relabeled as “Language” or “Strong Language” or “Adult Language.” I don’t plan on seeing this but I’ve read a review and I’ll only say I was not impressed.

Ed
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It’s simply a review aggregator. The name refers to the old practice of throwing tomatoes (and other produce) at bad performances. And Profanity has a place in movies if used in the proper context because as we know in reality people use profanity in certain situations. To not use profanity in those situations in movies would be completely unrealistic.

As for not seeing it based on a review I’d be curious which review your read that turned you off. Every one I’ve read has been glowing.
 
As a linguist myself, I’ve always been interested in establishing communications with an intelligent non-human species, and that process played a significant role in my novel. I’m looking forward to seeing this one, but not in the theaters.
 
Padres1969 said:
It’s simply a review aggregator. The name refers to the old practice of throwing tomatoes (and other produce) at bad performances. And Profanity has a place in movies if used in the proper context because as we know in reality people use profanity in certain situations. To not use profanity in those situations in movies would be completely unrealistic.

As for not seeing it based on a review I’d be curious which review your read that turned you off. Every one I’ve read has been glowing.
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I saw the original three Star Wars movies when they came out. The designs were incredible. The story was taut. And there was zero Language. Those were the last SF movies I really enjoyed. Terminator 2 had a great story but the “Language” ruined it.

Ed
 
You may want to wait for the Catholic reviewers to review it…

Sometimes such films come from a not good place for a kid of that age…in terms of how they present things.
 
I just got back from seeing this movie and I fell for the add about 100% Rotten Tomatoes. Don’t waste your time or money. Yes, the end is shocking, but not how you might think. I don’t remember profanity or sex, but it was boring and I found it confusing at times. I am angry at myself for not doing more research and wasting my money on another bad movie. C- or a D+.
Stay home!
 
I’m planning on seeing it. Looking forward to an alien invasion movie that doesn’t involve blowing up monuments.
 
I usually check the Internet Movie Database or IMDB for info about a movie and they have a “Parents Guide” about objectionable content. They often include a brief synopsis as well but no spoilers.

Ed
 
Robyn_p said:
I’m planning on seeing it. Looking forward to an alien invasion movie that doesn’t involve blowing up monuments.
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Heh, remembering the original Independence Day back in the 90’s… when the White House got zapped by the invaders, the whole theater cheered. Guess theater goers on Milwaukee’s east side didn’t think much of its occupant at the time (and that was pre-Monica).

I’ll also agree on crass language sometimes being appropriate. In Star Trek:Generations, when the Enterprise was about to crash, the android Data (who didn’t use contractions, but had recently been given emotions via an emotion chip) suddenly went, “Ohhhhh (slang for manure)!” That phrase added both an emotional punch and levity to the scene, all at the same time. I certainly don’t want to hear two hours of sailor dialect, but a well-placed expletive sometimes just hits the right note.
 
tvknight415 said:
Heh, remembering the original Independence Day back in the 90’s… when the White House got zapped by the invaders, the whole theater cheered. Guess theater goers on Milwaukee’s east side didn’t think much of its occupant at the time (and that was pre-Monica).
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😃 That’s actually pretty funny.
I’ll also agree on crass language sometimes being appropriate. In Star Trek:Generations, when the Enterprise was about to crash, the android Data (who didn’t use contractions, but had recently been given emotions via an emotion chip) suddenly went, “Ohhhhh (slang for manure)!” That phrase added both an emotional punch and levity to the scene, all at the same time. I certainly don’t want to hear two hours of sailor dialect, but a well-placed expletive sometimes just hits the right note.
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Yeah sometimes I think we can drift into scrupulosity when it comes to vulgarity. There’s a line obviously, but the idea that saying the slang for manure or even the slang for copulation is a sin is a leftover from Puritanism, which considered anything related to bodily functions to be evil or “dirty.” You read medieval literature and you see their equivalent of those words a lot. Even St. Paul uses it. Sometimes you need to say it to express the gravity of a situation.

Though substituting an f-bomb for something actually substantial like a lot of comedies do is just lazy writing. Like I said, there’s a line.
 
Padres1969 said:
And Profanity has a place in movies if used in the proper context because as we know in reality people use profanity in certain situations. To not use profanity in those situations in movies would be completely unrealistic.
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And yet, there was very little profanity (didn’t hear a single f-bomb) in “Hacksaw Ridge,” of all movies. Does that make ‘Hacksaw Ridge’ unrealistic? It could have been PG-13, AFAIC. I have unfortunately seen PG-rated movies that were far more problematic. 🤷
 
7_Sorrows said:
I just got back from seeing this movie and I fell for the add about 100% Rotten Tomatoes. Don’t waste your time or money. Yes, the end is shocking, but not how you might think. I don’t remember profanity or sex, but it was boring and I found it confusing at times. I am angry at myself for not doing more research and wasting my money on another bad movie. C- or a D+.
Stay home!
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Without giving away the ending - would you say that the movie caters to a secularized worldview? Do you think that a believing Christian (or Jew, etc.) would react to the movie differently than a non-believer?

I’m trying to get a sense of what you disliked about the film - without, again, getting into specifics of the plot. Thanks.
 
tvknight415 said:
Heh, remembering the original Independence Day back in the 90’s… when the White House got zapped by the invaders, the whole theater cheered. Guess theater goers on Milwaukee’s east side didn’t think much of its occupant at the time (and that was pre-Monica).

I’ll also agree on crass language sometimes being appropriate. In Star Trek:Generations, when the Enterprise was about to crash, the android Data (who didn’t use contractions, but had recently been given emotions via an emotion chip) suddenly went, “Ohhhhh (slang for manure)!” That phrase added both an emotional punch and levity to the scene, all at the same time. I certainly don’t want to hear two hours of sailor dialect, but a well-placed expletive sometimes just hits the right note.
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“Are you sure it isn’t time for a colorful metaphor?” --Spock to Kirk, Star Trek IV
 
louisak said:
Without giving away the ending - would you say that the movie caters to a secularized worldview? Do you think that a believing Christian (or Jew, etc.) would react to the movie differently than a non-believer?

I’m trying to get a sense of what you disliked about the film - without, again, getting into specifics of the plot. Thanks.
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It was a stupid movie. I gave it a chance. Kept waiting for something big to happen.
Waste of time and money.
 
randomuser said:
And yet, there was very little profanity (didn’t hear a single f-bomb) in “Hacksaw Ridge,” of all movies. Does that make ‘Hacksaw Ridge’ unrealistic? It could have been PG-13, AFAIC. I have unfortunately seen PG-rated movies that were far more problematic. 🤷
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Why do people keep talking about profanity? Did you hear or read that there was a lot
of profanity? I don’t remember any.
 
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