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CathCentrist
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No, it doesnt. Many catholics have been possessed
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wjp984
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One thing I wonder is whether being in a refrigerador will save your life in a nuclear blast.
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jmcrae
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Or whether it would be possible to empty said refrigerator,unplug it from the wall, climb inside it, and seal the door, in the few seconds that you would have between noticing that there has been a nuclear blast, and it being too late to really worry about it, any more.
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maize
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id say this one is definitely movie magic. with heat at like 4000 degrees and such a thin lead lining anyways, if indy wasnt vaporized or turned to carbon the gamma radiation would have killed him, oh, and of course the shockwaves.
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Verita
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As far as Lucas is concerned… yes. Look at the new Star Wars movies. ShudderYou think Spielberg and Lucas don’t have it anymore? That they’ve lost their touch? They’ve become senile, old men?
That’s one reason I thought Indy 4 was great. I was so worried he was going to ruin it. I guess Spielberg kept him in line though.
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wjp984
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That is what kind of upset me about this movie. In the previous Indy movies all the things he gets out of are realisitcally possible. For example, Indy would not be going over 3 waterfalls that probably would not even save you if you were in a barrow. Indy would fingt to get to land before going over the 3rd one if not the 1st.
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maria_rose
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I Saw It Today And Absolutely Loved It.
Aynone Seen It? What’s Your Vote? Thumbs Up Or Down?
Aynone Seen It? What’s Your Vote? Thumbs Up Or Down?
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irishmac
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:dts:
Boy, I really did not like that movie. Both my wife and I wanted to see it because we were both Indiana Jones fans. There were soooo many problems with this one. It is the worst Indy movie.
Is this a spoiler thread or a non-spoiler thread?
Boy, I really did not like that movie. Both my wife and I wanted to see it because we were both Indiana Jones fans. There were soooo many problems with this one. It is the worst Indy movie.
Is this a spoiler thread or a non-spoiler thread?
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maria_rose
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Oops, I( didn’t mark it either way, but I guess we can share our impressions freely.
Waht were the specific problems you had with it?
Waht were the specific problems you had with it?
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SwizzleStick
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It was okay, not great.
For further discussion and other opinions, there is another thread about this on CAF:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=238414
For further discussion and other opinions, there is another thread about this on CAF:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=238414
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irishmac
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SPOILER: DO NOT read further unless you want to.
It was so disjointed. Unlike the other movies, “Grandpa” Indy didn’t do any archeology work. What made “The Last Crusade” or “Raiders” so good was him piecing everything together to discovery the artifact. What did he do here? Nothing, save the magnetic discovery of the crate in the hangar. Now, the crate was so magnetic that it could attract small metal pieces from so far away, despite the affects of gravity, and yet, it couldn’t pull down the entire hanger or the rifles from the Sviets until the crate was open. Please.
The movie never really explained lots of things. Why was the US during above ground nuclear testing in 1957? Who were the shadowy, ghost-like children in the graveyard? Who were the primitive Mayan people? Were they an after thought? Why couldn’t Indy fight the biggest one like he did in “Temple of Doom?”
Cate Blanchett’s character was supposed to be some sort of psychic-warrior, except they never demonstrated the abilities. Not once. All we saw was her, staring intently at Indy, and him saying, “C’mon.” Not convincing.
Shia LeBoeuf’s charater, “Mutt,” swinging through the trees with the monkeys was an amazingly fantasical scene, but completely destroyed my interest in the movie. It seemed like a long set-up for the new Indiana Jones franchise, Iowa Mutt.
I was so un-impressed with the movie that, if I could, I would demand my money back. I own all the other movies, but this movie won’t be added to the collection. It sad to think that Harrison Ford came back for that.
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wjp984
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While it was bad and relatively disappointing, and the worst of them all, (which was to be expected), it wasn’t terrible to the point of not worth seeing.
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SacredHeartFan
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not as much action as the other two.
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PhilVaz
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Does everything HAVE to be explained for you to enjoy these kinds of movies? Not for me. I don’t care if everything or much of anything is “explained.” I care about how well (visually, etc) and interesting the action and adventure is, and how well done the acting and characters are. The “swinging monkey Tarzan” thing in Indy 4 was a tribute to the monkeys in Indy 1 (is how I saw it). I could care less if that was “ridiculous” as most of the “action” in Raiders and Last Crusade must definitely be declared the same “ridiculous.” It’s all “ridiculous” and totally “unbelievable” in one sense, right???
I guess I’m not a very good critic, but I just re-watched Indy 2 (Temple of Doom) and Indy 3 (Last Crusade). Already very familiar with Indy 1 (Raiders) so I don’t have to re-watch that. I absolutely have to rank all four as follows:
Indy 1 (Raiders) is #1
Indy 3 (Last Crusade) is #2 (I forgot how good this one was!)
and very close to 1 and 3 is…
Indy 4 (Crystal Skull) definitely #3 for me
… and much below these…
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Indy 2 (Temple of Doom) is definitely #4 (last place, slow parts in the first half, the many scenes with the blond and Indy definitely a turnoff to me, the Marion character [Karen Allen] in Indy 1 and 4 blows her away)
Hooray!
From someone who was in high school when Indy 1 came out.
Phil P
I guess I’m not a very good critic, but I just re-watched Indy 2 (Temple of Doom) and Indy 3 (Last Crusade). Already very familiar with Indy 1 (Raiders) so I don’t have to re-watch that. I absolutely have to rank all four as follows:
Indy 1 (Raiders) is #1
Indy 3 (Last Crusade) is #2 (I forgot how good this one was!)
and very close to 1 and 3 is…
Indy 4 (Crystal Skull) definitely #3 for me
… and much below these…
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Indy 2 (Temple of Doom) is definitely #4 (last place, slow parts in the first half, the many scenes with the blond and Indy definitely a turnoff to me, the Marion character [Karen Allen] in Indy 1 and 4 blows her away)
Hooray!
From someone who was in high school when Indy 1 came out.Phil P
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Charybdis
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It’s a movie and we are there to have fun. Rip roaring action, I thought. I place it right after Raiders…although I haven’t watched Last Crusade since it came out!!!
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mercygate
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I’m a “Last Crusade” fan. My daughter worked on the visual effects for Fox’s Fantastic Four #4 and gave the visual effects of the Crystal Skull a D-. Awful in every way.
Mindless action can be fun (what is Indiana Jones FOR anyway?) but it needs to be backed up by SOME resemblance of a plot.
Mindless action can be fun (what is Indiana Jones FOR anyway?) but it needs to be backed up by SOME resemblance of a plot.
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AnthonyM2
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Exactly, that’s how I saw it, it was good fun. Last Crusade was excellent also. I’d place Crystal Skull third or fourth but still a worthy sequel.
It seems like people either loved it or hated it but not much in between. Count me as one of the lovers.
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DaveBj
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“Iowa Mutt”
Ordinarily I don’t go in for movies where the special effects and stunts are the stars, not the human characters. I made an exception for “Crystal Skull”–went into it knowint that the stunts and effects were going to be over the top. I mean, really, three times over waterfalls in a DUKW and the old man never loses his grip on the skull?
I liked it anyway
Oh yeah, I wore my Indy hat–the fedora that I wore on both my trips to Cairo.
DaveBj
Ordinarily I don’t go in for movies where the special effects and stunts are the stars, not the human characters. I made an exception for “Crystal Skull”–went into it knowint that the stunts and effects were going to be over the top. I mean, really, three times over waterfalls in a DUKW and the old man never loses his grip on the skull?
I liked it anyway
Oh yeah, I wore my Indy hat–the fedora that I wore on both my trips to Cairo.
DaveBj
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mlchance
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So far this summer, I’ve seen Prince Caspian, Iron Man, The Forbidden Kingdom, Speed Racer, Kung-Fu Panda, and Indiana Jones. The latter is just more proof that George Lucas is the single most over-rated writer working in motion pictures. Permit me to elaborate with a summary of just some of the things that made this the worst movie I’ve seen this summer:
Act One is about the Soviets going to amazing lengths in order to break into a US military base on US soil in order to steal the corpse of a Roswell alien, who is very magnetic.
Things that do not matter at all to the movie?
Admittedly, the action sequence for the get-away was kinda cool. The nuke, however, was absolutely ridiculous to the point of being utterly stupid.
Act Two is about finding the crystal skull itself. All it consists of is running away from Commies (a good scene), going to a Peruvian asylum and finding a map on the floor (fair enough), and then exploring probably the lamest tomb out of the entire series. And some people come out of nowhere to attack, but they have no point. There’s no trap, no puzzle, no real tension. Ooh, there’s a scorpion, but . . . it doesn’t do anything. It’s a boring act.
Then the end of the act is, I suppose, getting away from the Commies. Ridiculous, but fun enough. Lots of groan-worthy moments. Tarzan? Monkeys? Crotch shots? Driving onto a tree? Ugh. And Marion looked like she did a few too many drugs, since she was completely unconcerned about the danger around her.
Act Three? Well, before we get to the aliens, let’s consider the crazy Indians. Where did they come from? They show up, they are scary, and then they run away easily and are shot to death. Rather pointless. The huge CG tower key that they open by draining it of sand? Interesting, sure, okay. But come on, give me the drama.
Oh, look, the Commies have them at gunpoint. How are they going to get out of this? Well, in Raiders, when everything was bleak, they were saved by knowing how to resist the power of the Ark. In Temple, Indy called upon the power of Kali. In Last Crusade, Indy let the old guy be foolish and choose poorly. Sure, in all of these situations, Indy doesn’t save the day himself; magic saves him because Indy realizes not to meddle with powers beyond him, while the bad guys decide to meddle.
Here, though? Why the heck does Indy even want to return the crystal skull? He has no motivation. Apparently the skull telepathically told him to, but aside from mental domination, he has no reason to do so. He should’ve dumped the damn skull off a cliff and said, “Screw you, ruskies!”
And when he does take the skull back, the Commies just get torn to bits, while CG spins around them at high speed, and the people survive by . . . running away. Wow, that’s heroic.
There are so many faults in this movie’s story (other example: the not-too-subtle racism implicit in the idea that those primitive Peruvian natives had help to farm and build stuff rather than being able to accomplish these tasks on their own). It really needed some overarching thematic point. Raiders was about not delving into powers that should be left alone. Last Crusade was about healing and the danger of obsession, as any good grail story should be. (Temple of Doom was sloppy, and I can’t figure out its point.)
What could this one’s theme have been? Well, it’s during the Cold War. It could have been about the danger of power without checks and balances. It could have been about how paranoia can destroy someone from within. It could even have been all gung ho patriotic about the power of free-will and capitalism over the unified front of communism. Instead, it seems to just be . . . fan fiction, which is the worst time of fiction imaginable.
I don’t ever intend to see this movie again.
– Mark L. Chance.
Act One is about the Soviets going to amazing lengths in order to break into a US military base on US soil in order to steal the corpse of a Roswell alien, who is very magnetic.
Things that do not matter at all to the movie?
- The alien corpse. Sure, they drag it out to the jungle of Peru for an autopsy, but they don’t do anything with it. If they hadn’t gotten it from the military base, the Soviets wouldn’t have been any worse off.
- The magnetism. Aside from cluing Indy to the location of the skull (because apparently these are special magnets; even Mutt knows that gold isn’t magnetic), nothing else is affected by the magnetism.
Admittedly, the action sequence for the get-away was kinda cool. The nuke, however, was absolutely ridiculous to the point of being utterly stupid.
Act Two is about finding the crystal skull itself. All it consists of is running away from Commies (a good scene), going to a Peruvian asylum and finding a map on the floor (fair enough), and then exploring probably the lamest tomb out of the entire series. And some people come out of nowhere to attack, but they have no point. There’s no trap, no puzzle, no real tension. Ooh, there’s a scorpion, but . . . it doesn’t do anything. It’s a boring act.
Then the end of the act is, I suppose, getting away from the Commies. Ridiculous, but fun enough. Lots of groan-worthy moments. Tarzan? Monkeys? Crotch shots? Driving onto a tree? Ugh. And Marion looked like she did a few too many drugs, since she was completely unconcerned about the danger around her.
Act Three? Well, before we get to the aliens, let’s consider the crazy Indians. Where did they come from? They show up, they are scary, and then they run away easily and are shot to death. Rather pointless. The huge CG tower key that they open by draining it of sand? Interesting, sure, okay. But come on, give me the drama.
Oh, look, the Commies have them at gunpoint. How are they going to get out of this? Well, in Raiders, when everything was bleak, they were saved by knowing how to resist the power of the Ark. In Temple, Indy called upon the power of Kali. In Last Crusade, Indy let the old guy be foolish and choose poorly. Sure, in all of these situations, Indy doesn’t save the day himself; magic saves him because Indy realizes not to meddle with powers beyond him, while the bad guys decide to meddle.
Here, though? Why the heck does Indy even want to return the crystal skull? He has no motivation. Apparently the skull telepathically told him to, but aside from mental domination, he has no reason to do so. He should’ve dumped the damn skull off a cliff and said, “Screw you, ruskies!”
And when he does take the skull back, the Commies just get torn to bits, while CG spins around them at high speed, and the people survive by . . . running away. Wow, that’s heroic.
There are so many faults in this movie’s story (other example: the not-too-subtle racism implicit in the idea that those primitive Peruvian natives had help to farm and build stuff rather than being able to accomplish these tasks on their own). It really needed some overarching thematic point. Raiders was about not delving into powers that should be left alone. Last Crusade was about healing and the danger of obsession, as any good grail story should be. (Temple of Doom was sloppy, and I can’t figure out its point.)
What could this one’s theme have been? Well, it’s during the Cold War. It could have been about the danger of power without checks and balances. It could have been about how paranoia can destroy someone from within. It could even have been all gung ho patriotic about the power of free-will and capitalism over the unified front of communism. Instead, it seems to just be . . . fan fiction, which is the worst time of fiction imaginable.
I don’t ever intend to see this movie again.
– Mark L. Chance.
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Ted_in_Charlott
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Loved it. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. Loved the premise of the story. Good fun. 2nd best behind Raiders. Good villian.
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