Movie "Passengers'

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I saw this yesterday and for the most part thought it was a great movie, there was a tiny bit of sexuality, but no language or violence. The only nudity they showed was a shot of Chris Pratt walking naked from behind, for about 2 seconds, and the fact they had Jenifer Lawrence as his co star, they could have shown a lot more nudity if they chose to. The plot was also good and I didnt see any holes, other than a basic mechanic suddenly having the ability to diagnose and repair a star ship. LOL

What I really liked about this movie was the set (the ship itself), everything was built by hand in a large warehouse,think ultra modern meets art deco of the future.

I do not think the movie ever mentioned what year this was, but Im guessing about 100 years in the future.
 
I have seen previews, and I was intrigued. I’ll maybe have to check it out when it hits On-Demand.
 
I haven’t seen it, but the reviews I saw seemed to crush it pretty badly. Seems there were a lot of parts of the plot that don’t seem to have any logical reason to exist other than furthering the plot itself.

I wouldn’t watch it anyway though because of its offenses against purity. Principle of the Integral Good.
 
mikekle said:
I saw this yesterday and for the most part thought it was a great movie, there was a tiny bit of sexuality, but no language or violence. The only nudity they showed was a shot of Chris Pratt walking naked from behind, for about 2 seconds, and the fact they had Jenifer Lawrence as his co star, they could have shown a lot more nudity if they chose to. The plot was also good and I didnt see any holes, other than a basic mechanic suddenly having the ability to diagnose and repair a star ship. LOL

What I really liked about this movie was the set (the ship itself), everything was built by hand in a large warehouse,think ultra modern meets art deco of the future.

I do not think the movie ever mentioned what year this was, but Im guessing about 100 years in the future.
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100 years? Human life should be so lucky.
 
dshix said:
I haven’t seen it, but the reviews I saw seemed to crush it pretty badly. Seems there were a lot of parts of the plot that don’t seem to have any logical reason to exist other than furthering the plot itself.

I wouldn’t watch it anyway though because of its offenses against purity. Principle of the Integral Good.
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Not sure what you are talking about…the plot was pretty simple, a man awoke from hibernation too soon as a result of a malfunction, it deals with his loneliness, most of the movie is them trying to fix the ship, saving 5000+ lives in the process without regard for their own lives I might add.

I did not see much offense to purity though, except for them engaging in sex without being married, everything else they did was for the sake of others.

The only plot hole if you call it that I saw, was the fact a simple mechanic had the sudden ability to diagnose and fix a complicated star ship. lol
 
GEddie said:
For human life to have anything resembling a starship by the 2100s would require several kilotons of pixie dust.

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Really? Look at the world from early 1900s compared to today. Id say if we keep going at this rate, the tech in this movie is realistic for 100 yrs in the future.
 
GEddie said:
For human life to have anything resembling a starship by the 2100s would require several kilotons of pixie dust.

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mikekle said:
Really? Look at the world from early 1900s compared to today. Id say if we keep going at this rate, the tech in this movie is realistic for 100 yrs in the future.
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If one were to consider the rate of technological progress, particularly as concerns space travel, between, say, 1903 (Wright brothers) and 1969 (moon landing), and if that rate of progress had continued thru the present time, then I would say that interstellar travel involving coldsleep would be entirely possible in the 22nd century. However, given the dramatic slowdown in the progress related to human space travel since 1969, I would put starships another couple hundred years farther in the future, at least. And that’s not even taking into account the financial bankruptcy of contemporary first-world governments. But that’s another issue for another time.
 
DaveBj said:
If one were to consider the rate of technological progress, particularly as concerns space travel, between, say, 1903 (Wright brothers) and 1969 (moon landing), and if that rate of progress had continued thru the present time, then I would say that interstellar travel involving coldsleep would be entirely possible in the 22nd century. However, given the dramatic slowdown in the progress related to human space travel since 1969, I would put starships another couple hundred years farther in the future, at least. And that’s not even taking into account the financial bankruptcy of contemporary first-world governments. But that’s another issue for another time.
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You’re implying that there is a straight line, so to speak, from the work of the Wright brothers, through the Apollo moon landings, to interstellar travel. But I think that kind of reasoning is fallacious. For humans to travel to other solar systems - or even to visit other planets within our solar system - involves obstacles and difficulties that are of a different order of magnitude. The Apollo missions only lasted for a few days, not enough time for the health dangers of space travel to manifest themselves (note, I’m not referring to the risk of accidents, which of course they did face, but the health risks of merely being in space). A trip to Mars (for example) would take months, during which time the astronauts would be seriously harmed by solar radiation, as well as the bone loss caused by lack of gravity - unless means are found to protect them against these things.

NASA researchers are working right now on finding solutions to these problems, as they are seriously hoping to achieve a human mission to Mars. But it’s too early to say whether solutions can actually be found. It may turn out that the obstacles just can’t be overcome. Or if they can be overcome, it may require a level of science and technology that we just don’t possess right now. It might be hundreds of years before we make enough progress, even assuming that scientific advancement continues at the pace we are accustomed to.
 
Personally, I found the moral issues more intriguing than the technology and especially considering the various “might-have-beens”.
 
mikekle said:
Not sure what you are talking about…the plot was pretty simple, a man awoke from hibernation too soon as a result of a malfunction, it deals with his loneliness, most of the movie is them trying to fix the ship, saving 5000+ lives in the process without regard for their own lives I might add.
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Well, watch this youtube video and then tell me if you think there are no plot holes.

youtube.com/watch?v=RLxYuFgqJ-4
mikekle said:
I did not see much offense to purity though, except for them engaging in sex without being married, everything else they did was for the sake of others.
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Are you kidding? What you just said is functionally equivalent to saying: “Well I didn’t really see much bad language in there, even though they did take the Lord’s name in vain multiple times and they did have cursing, but the characters were good people!”

Do you see how absurd that is?
 
GEddie said:
For human life to have anything resembling a starship by the 2100s would require several kilotons of pixie dust.

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The first flight by the Wright Brothers was regarded as a fabrication at the time by Scientific American. A prominent British newspaper wrote it considered it unlikely that the US could reach the moon in a manned mission by 1969. They promptly issued a retraction and a “well done” to “our American friends.” As someone who studies the history of technology, a starship will be built in the next 20 to 30 years, and yes, it will travel faster than light. Much like the ominous sound barrier (a different class of issues) was not broken until the 1940s. But who thought a ballistic rocket (over 3,000 mph) could even exist in 1944? The British certainly didn’t when recon photos spotted the rocket on the ground.

Regarding Passengers, nothing in the trailer inspired me to see it.

Ed
 
edwest2 said:
As someone who studies the history of technology, a starship will be built in the next 20 to 30 years, and yes, it will travel faster than light.
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Faster than light? Ok…

Perhaps you’re just referring to reaching a distant point in space faster than light can get there, not actually traveling faster than light. Matter can’t have a speed faster than light.
 
edwest2 said:
As someone who studies the history of technology, a starship will be built in the next 20 to 30 years, and yes, it will travel faster than light.
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There haven’t been any significant advances in the technology of space travel since the Apollo missions, and that was a good half-century ago. I’m sure improvements have been made, but the fundamental technology hasn’t changed much. Why do you assume the next 20-30 years will bring such a huge leap forward?

Scientific and technological advancement don’t proceed at a constant pace. Major scientific breakthoughs are relatively rare events. Assuming that faster-than-light travel is even possible - and that’s a big ‘if’ - there’s no way to predict when we will cross that barrier.
 
louisak said:
There haven’t been any significant advances in the technology of space travel since the Apollo missions.
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That we know of anyway. Im sure we would be amazed if we saw all the stuff they keep locked up and/or classified.

Speed of travel is just one way to get to point B as well, electromagnetic, anti-gravity, are 2 technologies that would permit such a thing, among others, but we are just not privy to know what abilities they have buried in deep black SAP projects.

I cannot recall who said this, but I remember it from listening to Coast to Coast, they said something to the effect of “most tech they have in sci fi movies have already been realized, but is kept classified and withheld from the public.”
 
mikekle said:
That we know of anyway. Im sure we would be amazed if we saw all the stuff they keep locked up and/or classified.

Speed of travel is just one way to get to point B as well, electromagnetic, anti-gravity, are 2 technologies that would permit such a thing, among others, but we are just not privy to know what abilities they have buried in deep black SAP projects.

I cannot recall who said this, but I remember it from listening to Coast to Coast, they said something to the effect of “most tech they have in sci fi movies have already been realized, but is kept classified and withheld from the public.”
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There are a number of countries besides the United States that have space programs. There was an article in National Geographic recently about the concept of a manned mission to Mars; NASA is working hard at trying to resolve the technical problems involved in putting humans in space for long periods of time (the danger of solar radiation etc.), and I think the article said that several other nations’ space agencies are working on it as well. I’m not 100% sure about that, but I know that several nations have put, or are working toward putting, satellites into orbit around Mars.

You’re asking me to believe that there is already-developed technology for space travel, and that all these space agencies are refraining from using this technology because of some deep conspiracy. What possible reason could they have for doing so? It doesn’t make any sense to me.

The U.S. government is notoriously bad at keeping secrets - look at all the classified information that is constantly being leaked to the newspapers. I can’t believe all this conspiracy stuff about advanced technology that is being kept hidden. The harder some folks try to keep something a secret, the more other people will have personal incentive to leak the secret - to draw attention to themselves, or to get money, or for some other reason. It’s human nature.
 
louisak said:
There are a number of countries besides the United States that have space programs. There was an article in National Geographic recently about the concept of a manned mission to Mars; NASA is working hard at trying to resolve the technical problems involved in putting humans in space for long periods of time (the danger of solar radiation etc.), and I think the article said that several other nations’ space agencies are working on it as well. I’m not 100% sure about that, but I know that several nations have put, or are working toward putting, satellites into orbit around Mars.

You’re asking me to believe that there is already-developed technology for space travel, and that all these space agencies are refraining from using this technology because of some deep conspiracy. What possible reason could they have for doing so? It doesn’t make any sense to me.

The U.S. government is notoriously bad at keeping secrets - look at all the classified information that is constantly being leaked to the newspapers. I can’t believe all this conspiracy stuff about advanced technology that is being kept hidden. The harder some folks try to keep something a secret, the more other people will have personal incentive to leak the secret - to draw attention to themselves, or to get money, or for some other reason. It’s human nature.
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I wish I could believe that. Based on my research, “black world” projects are 20 years ahead of what we have now. The government is great at keeping secrets. I met a man at a small convention. After a short conversation, I asked him what he did for a living. He said, “I do electronics work for the government. I can’t talk about it.” The end and no further questions from me. Classified means classified.

The “stealth fighter” (which is actually a small bomber) flew for five years before being revealed to the public. Keeping a secret is simple: you don’t tell anyone outside of your classified project, what you are doing.

Get money? These people are developing next generation technology that they know will cost them if they reveal anything.

Ed
 
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