MOVIES: "Jesus Camp"

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If I remember correctly, the directors here are actually Catholic. One of them was interviewed in my Diocese Paper. I can’t find a link though…

I watched with my conservative agnostic friend. We both liked it. He suggested I ask my priest to teach me to speak in tongues afterwords :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

We joke around that way sometimes…
 
AnIrishCatholic said:
lol:p

I find when people are very angery about something or fire and brimstone on a subject it usually turns out that the person is probably hiding something that is a lot closer to home that they would prefer :rolleyes:
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I agree. There’s more than a coincidence to that outlook
 
Sweeney said:
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It doesn’t appear that you don’t have a problem “passing judgement” on the film industry. though.
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Coming to a conclusion, based on what I myself have seen repeatedly, and what others much more familiar with the industry and those in it have reported, is ‘passing judgment?’

AnIrishCatholic, I don’t believe I ever rated the film anything. From all I’ve heard, including right here in this thread, it makes out a group of people–our brothers and sisters in Christ, as Carol Marie beautifully put it-- to be ‘whackos.’ I choose not to partake. 🙂 Why is it so important to you that I go watch a film?

And no, I actually don’t ‘need’ to experience everything for myself. For instance, I can draw some conclusions about std’s and hallucinogenic drugs and drunk driving without actually experiencing it myself, and I don’t feel I’ve missed out on life for not experiencing those things! 😉 There are only so many dollars and so many hours, and I choose not to spend mine on this movie. I do not truly think that on my deathbed I will feel I missed one of life’s great experiences, for having made that decision.
 
My husband and I rented from Netflix a few months back. I can’t remember everything, but it was very disturbing - not their love for God, but how they were being indoctrinated. At the same time, it didn’t seem as if the parents and the leaders were teaching them to be hate mongers. They were just teaching them how they see Christianity, as strange as the belief system appeared to be. It is interesting and should be seen before having an opinion on it. I agree that in some ways, the documentary was trying to make them out to be like wackos and perhaps trying to make them out to be like recruited “soldiers for Christ”. Although the leaders would describe their mission as being prepared for the battle, it was more about getting their youth so biblically and scripturally prepared to face the secular world as well as the Islamic world. The head leader talked about well the fundalmentalist Muslims rallied their youth and basically trained them to be warriors for Allah. Her mission and the mission of the other leaders were trying to do the same, but not by placing grenades or guns in their hands.

In the end, though, I still was very disturbed by it, but I’m not into or accept Fundamentalism in Christianity or other religions. I do recommend seeing it.
 
Jabronie said:
If I remember correctly, the directors here are actually Catholic. One of them was interviewed in my Diocese Paper. I can’t find a link though…
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The movie was reviewed in my diosceses’ paper, too. The director wasn’t Catholic, she was Protestant, Presbyterian, I think. The cameraman in the infamous Ted Haggart scene was Catholic, though.

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axolotl said:
I enjoyed it. I even watched a second time, with the director’s commentary.

The most annoying part for me was the final deleted scene, with Ted Haggard conversing with Catholic camera man.
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All the Ted Haggard scenese were the most interesting because of the creep factor, he was annyoying, and of course hypocrticial and obnoixious. I don’t know if everybody here was accuratly potrayed but his portrayal of a creepy guy was head on and accurate. It was Christian bashing on a certain level but some of it probably was deserved these guys were on the extremes of religious and poltical fundamentalism and indoctrination. But I don’t think they were indicative of the average christian evangelical they wanted an extreme shock factor and got it.
 
The only thing touching and good about that movie was when the children went next door from the abortion clinic and prayed thru the wall.

Everything else was pretty disturbing

Especially the melding of war paint on the kids faces just to be a prayer warrior. To me it was an indoctrination into some sort of association of a God/Military theme that was very offensive to me.

Why the traditonal war camoflauge colors?

Why not have them paint red crosses on their faces and identify with God instead of the MILITARY? Offensivly propagandic and radical right wing as well as indoctrinal, imo
 
Cari said:
The movie was reviewed in my diosceses’ paper, too. The director wasn’t Catholic, she was Protestant, Presbyterian, I think. The cameraman in the infamous Ted Haggart scene was Catholic, though.

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One of the director’s speaks of her Catholic background in the version with directors’ commentary. She may have fallen away.
 
axolotl said:
One of the director’s speaks of her Catholic background in the version with directors’ commentary. She may have fallen away.
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Goes to show how good my pregnancy-addled brain ISN’T these days. :rolleyes:
 
I watched it and thought it was really creepy. I know some people like that though, which is even creepier. Also, it made me mad when the little girl, Rachel, says that God doesn’t want to be in churches where people worship quietly and sing one or two songs, he wants to be in churches where people are jumping up and down shouting. The she went on to say that He just wasn’t in those other churches at all! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Makes you really wonder what in the world they actually teach those poor kids!!!

BTW, I remember her giving out chick tracts at the bowling alley scene too, or at least reading from one.
 
AngelRose81 said:
I watched it and thought it was really creepy. I know some people like that though, which is even creepier. Also, it made me mad when the little girl, Rachel, says that God doesn’t want to be in churches where people worship quietly and sing one or two songs, he wants to be in churches where people are jumping up and down shouting. The she went on to say that He just wasn’t in those other churches at all! :eek: :eek: :eek:
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I know… that offended me as well. At first I was really upset with the girl, but then I had to stop and recognize that she was probably just spilling from her mouth exactly what her family and these adults were telling her. It’s a shame.
 
Sweeney said:
The foilks in the movie are indeed “real Bible-Christians”. Their Church is in Missouri, about an hour’s drive from where I live. The producers did not have to make them look like whackos - they do that all on their own.
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There may be such a church or camp in Missouri but the camp featured in the film is located in North Dakota. And it shut down, at least temporarily.
 
Bruised_Reed said:
There may be such a church or camp in Missouri but the camp featured in the film is located in North Dakota. And it shut down, at least temporarily.
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The church some of them go to is in Lee’s Summit, MO but yes, you are correct that the camp is in ND.

Do you know why it might have been shut down?

I would suspect funding problems b/c it looked quite small.
 
AngelRose81 said:
The church some of them go to is in Lee’s Summit, MO but yes, you are correct that the camp is in ND.

Do you know why it might have been shut down?

I would suspect funding problems b/c it looked quite small.
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Vandals caused over $1000 worth of damage and/or because of negative press so the camp owners wouldn’t let the Jesus camp people come back. Depends on which web page you read. The news station I heard it on doesn’t have archives but I heard it was the vandalism though it wasn’t clear that they didn’t actually own it.
 
We have the other thread on the indoctrination of homosexual values on children, but after watching clips I don’t know what is worse! A child who has little moral compas or a child who is made to feel like they are a horble sinner and the entire world is evil!
 
AngelRose81 said:
The church some of them go to is in Lee’s Summit, MO but yes, you are correct that the camp is in ND.

Do you know why it might have been shut down?

I would suspect funding problems b/c it looked quite small.
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"First of all “Jesus Camp” is merely the name of the movie that has been receiving so much attention. Our camp was actually called “Families on Fire Summer Camp.” It was a once a year, three day event. We did not own our own camp ground, but merely rented the facilities from the North Dakota Assemblies of God denomination for this once a year event.

Due to some vandalism at the camp ground where some windows were broken out causing about $1500 worth of damage which could be directly linked to negative reaction to the movie, and another incident this past summer where some people came to our camp after they heard about the movie, and required having the sheriff remove them from the property for harassing our campers, the camp owners have understandably asked us not to return for awhile.

But the news media has made it sound like this is shutting down our whole ministry. Nothing could be further from the truth. We will simply replace this one event with a different one, probably a conference of some type. As a ministry, we are stronger than ever, and have more invitations to minister than ever before. But somehow that information is always buried at the bottom of the media reports, if it’s mentioned at all. "

kidsinministry.com/closingdowncamp.html
 
carol_marie said:
I would seriously question how authentic the movie is at depicting real Bible-Christians. I am certain that the producers had an agenda - making them look like wackos? If they did one about the Catholic Church I am certain they could piece togther this & that, taken out of context and make us look pretty nutty also. If fact, they have done movies about Priests to make it seem like every Priest is a pervert. I wouldn’t support those movies that slam us - so I’m not going to talk up movies that slam them either.
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"As for accusing us of portraying our protagonists (people whom we’ve grown close to over the past year) “sinister,” this is a disturbing charge. Perhaps Pastor Haggard is projecting his own point of view on the film’s characters, as we absolutely do not see them as such, and went out of our way too make sure that they were shown in a human, three-dimensional light. The children come across as kind, passionate and intelligent. Pastor Becky Fischer is a very likeable and real person, both on and off the screen.

Pastor Haggard is the only person in Jesus Camp who has a problem with how he was portrayed, and with the film as a whole. All the others in the movie feel it is accurate and fair and are excited about people seeing it. "

jesuscampthemovie.com/haggard_response.html
 
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