Moving to another country--have you ever thought about it?

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Sarabande said:
I’m so sorry that this hurt you. I didn’t mean this for you or anyone else. I just meant this for how I feel for myself right now. We just lost our grandfather last week, so being close to my family at the moment is most important to me and the moment I’m just happy that I was in the area to be there with my family to grieve. .
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My condolences on the loss of your grandfather - I wouldn’t be able to think of leaving either if that had just happened to me :console:

And my apologies, I was perhaps a bit too touchy. There are an awful lot of very well meaning people here and in the US that tell me that they could never do what I did. They mean it to be a compliment, saying I’m very brave, but the way it is often phrased (and my latent guilt) make it feel like an accusation. The worst was at our wedding, which my family couldn’t attend, when one of DH’s aunt’s told me she would never stop crying and her heart would break, if her daughter moved across the ocean. I’d been holding it together pretty well and just about lost it.

I do get to visit my family in the US in a month though! First time I’ll be seeing them since last June! I’ll be spending a lot of time just being with them, but also can’t wait to go to Target 😃
 
agmoose02 said:
Right on about Croatia, been there in 2006, loved Zagreb 👍
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there you go! :cool:
i think the op should consider my part of the world 🙂
i think people are much nicer and more open in middle than the northern or western parts of europe.
 
mahalia said:
there you go! :cool:
i think the op should consider my part of the world 🙂
i think people are much nicer and more open in middle than the northern or western parts of europe.
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Again, I have to agree with Mahalia 👍 . I work with a lot of people from all over the old Yugoslavia (including Croatia) and there is a difference in the attitude from much of western and northern Europe. People are friendly, laid back and very hospitable. They also tend to be some of the more conservative Europeans I’ve dealt with as a whole. Also, the country is beautiful, with all you could want whether it be mountains or beaches. The food is also a wonderful blend mixing influences from Italy, the Balkans and the old Austro-Hungarian Empire. I was actually considering buying property there myself before I met my fiancee. Still wouldn’t mind going there, but I doubt I could talk her into it 🤷
 
mahalia said:
there you go! :cool:
i think the op should consider my part of the world 🙂
i think people are much nicer and more open in middle than the northern or western parts of europe.
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I know several people who have gone to the area on pilgrimage. Is the rest of the country as faithful? Is English understood? Have things settled down since the war a few years ago?
 
Stay home.

Evangelize America. Leaving will not stem the tide of evill that is overwhelming the United States. Despite an earlier posting critizing Honest Abe, our 16th President left us some linguistic jewels. “America is the last best hope of the world” At least I’m prety sure it was him.

As to America allowing dual citizenship, I have several friends who hold dual citizenship in the US and in Israel.

If America does not lead a revival of Godliness, intellectual honesty, and personal resposibilty, who will?

I believe we are pretty close to hittting rock bottom, so soon there will be nowhere left to go but up. Americans, especially Catholics who live the truth of Jesus Christ, will be able to reform things for the future generations.

Who will help to divert people from the moral coma induced by rampant situational ethics, moral relativism, secular humanism, and the worship of false God’s? ( Money, Goverment, sex, and the earth).

Dan
 
whatevergirl said:
Guess what peeps! I was on yahoo earlier, and the US did NOT make the 10 top happiest countries…Denmark was #1–following were Austria, Iceland, Canada…bla bla…but US ranked #23. The following criteria were taken into consideration when polling nearly 80,000 people–health, wealth, and education.

So…there you have it. Something does NOT stink in Denmark.😛 😃

The survey went on to say that countries with larger and growing populations are the least happiest…thus, China, Japan and India are not on the happiest countries list. Oh well…Japan’s out. I definitely want to be happy–although, happiness is a state of being. I would say though that I have my days where I’m not altogether happy here in Florida. Too many people!😦

Anyways–thought I’d share those findings with you!
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Hehee whatevergirl, you sound like my mom. Whenever I - as often happens - talk about leaving Denmark because of the trouble here she scolds me by talking about the wealth of my country… Oh but mom, I tell her, wealth is not all that matters.
Yes, we have a very very lenient school system here which makes us rank among the worst readers and matematicians in the world on a generel level. We have free education yes and free health care and whereas that is good it wont save my soul or the souls of my children. The church here is for a large part sleeping, there are not many miracles and the theology is invested in liberal-theology… then I get to the part that makes me wanna move away: In my 25 years of existence I have always been a strong willed person but I still did a lot of stupid things while growing up, things I probably would not have done if there had been visible subcultures advocating a different behaviour in teens.
I too wanna imigrate both for the sake of me and my children. Denmark has 5 million people… its like a small village of people who look, speak and think alike. We have 40 abortions a day in this little country, we have the highest amount of alcohol among teens in the world, we are also at the top when it comes to pornography and suicide.
Wealthy and happy don’t mean wealthy and happy in the Christian sense of the word. I live right in the smack of a city and going around among the young people here I see and listen to behaviour that is so perverted that I think is foreign to you. People are layed back because they have money… but you would never see a chastity speaker on a school here.
We are, in Denmark, what people call “liberated”… oh yeah… and the RCC is not very popular here… its only known for its penance letters from the middleages, its sex scandals and that the pope is to blame from the Aids-epidemics.
We qualify for what M.Teresa called a rich country that is really poor.
when all that is said, yes, I do love Denmark, the air hear is better than anywhere in the world, the trees and the streams are lovely… its my country. But its become only a land for me… which is mine, but it has not much self respect left.
 
Teakafrog said:
I know several people who have gone to the area on pilgrimage. Is the rest of the country as faithful? Is English understood? Have things settled down since the war a few years ago?
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faithful…well…everyone is catholic. but there are catholics and catholics, you know what i mean. the people are more conservative in general.
english is spoken, of course.
and the war…well, the war ended 13 years ago. the country is still suffering the consequences, but overall we’re doing okay. 👍
 
mpb74 said:
Stay home.

Evangelize America. Leaving will not stem the tide of evill that is overwhelming the United States. Despite an earlier posting critizing Honest Abe, our 16th President left us some linguistic jewels. “America is the last best hope of the world” At least I’m prety sure it was him.

As to America allowing dual citizenship, I have several friends who hold dual citizenship in the US and in Israel.

If America does not lead a revival of Godliness, intellectual honesty, and personal resposibilty, who will?

I believe we are pretty close to hittting rock bottom, so soon there will be nowhere left to go but up. Americans, especially Catholics who live the truth of Jesus Christ, will be able to reform things for the future generations.

Who will help to divert people from the moral coma induced by rampant situational ethics, moral relativism, secular humanism, and the worship of false God’s? ( Money, Goverment, sex, and the earth).

Dan
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Thank you for this post, dan…I like how you put your thoughts into words here…a very unique but realistic way of looking at this–thank you!
 
If you are looking to moving to another country it is very important that you do it for the right reasons.
I personally believe that living abroad, for a short or long term stay, is one of the best ‘educational’ experiences any one can have, and offers the adventurous a wider world view/world awareness.
I lived in Ecuador for 5 months, in Mexico for a short 1 month, and my fiance and I are planning on moving to Chile after we get married. I speak Spanish, and we want to teach it to our children, and so Matt is wanting to learn the languange. We have enjoyed the people we have met so much with each of our trips to Latin America and they have been giving and generous.
Choosing a country to move to is like falling in love, you need to really want to move there and get to know the people, the culture and make that a part of your everyday life. You have to have a deep interest in the country. You don’t have to agree with everything that is going on in the country, because as many people have said here, you WON’T agree with everything, but you do have to know you will be safe, that you can live within the parameters/rules/laws, and make a committment to delve into the life of the country.
 
GraceDK said:
Heather… You live in my part of the world…
I am a Catholic in Denmark and you are a Catholic in Sweden… I guess we both must feel out of place… 🙂
I am actually friends with a Sweedish protestant pastor… I thought that he might be the one for me… but now I begin to see that it’s too complicated… I think I have to take the decision that I will only consider marrying a Catholic from now on. It must be difficult for you to be married to an agnostic in a country like Sweden. I hope the Lord gives you strength.
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I sometimes feel out of place but I am studying to be a catechist for our parish, we have 5 so far I believe. 🙂 Always need more! My parish church is 30 mins away… and they occassionally once or twice a month in our town too.

I’ve been in Sweden since 1997.

It’s not hard being married to an agnostic… he loves going to Church with our son at times and has no prob that I am teaching our son about the faith we baptised him in. 😉

Yes, marrying a Protestant Pastor would be tough when they find things Catholics believe in to be strange.

God bless!
 
armywife said:
We lived overseas for six years. Three in Germany and three in Italy. I would never permenatly live in Italy. It’s just a 3rd world country with great tourism and shoes! My husband and I talk all the time about him getting a DOD job in Germany after he retires from the Army. We both speak German, although mine’s very rusty now. It’s the best of both worlds, live overseas and still keep citizenship and use of the commissary for those little American foods you would dearly miss. We know lot’s of people who have lived and worked for the govt overseas for more than 10 years. I would LOVE it.
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Italy is 3rd World? I know some parts are having problems, but is it seriously 3rd World?
 
no, I don’t think armywife meant it for real… it’s just that the temperament and the way people behave in Italy is quite different than the one armywife had got used to.
it’s not third world…trust me, I’ve been to almost every part of Italy. it’s true they don’t like to speak foreign languages and don’t care much about clean streets 😃 but other than that, Italy is definitely 👍
 
Friends of ours in Rome jokingly say that it’s “third world.” They don’t mean that it’s like Africa or anything. But, compared to a lot of Northern European countries, it does seem a bit… behind. Things are crowded and dirty and there is a lot of corruption.

However, I have to say that the center of Rome is remarkably clean considering the traffick/number of people visiting. It’s just that once you get to a residential neighborhood, you’ll see a lot of graffiti. And, on the drive to the airport, we noticed a lot of run-down, scrubby areas.
 
Hopeful I see you are an American living in Scotland, I am a Scot livng in America. What part of Scotland are you in, I come from Edinburgh.
 
Nordar said:
Hopeful I see you are an American living in Scotland, I am a Scot livng in America. What part of Scotland are you in, I come from Edinburgh.
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I’m near Glasgow. Where are you in the US? Do you like it there?
 
First country I would probably move to: the UK England, Scotland Ireland. Always been drawn there. Then Australia.
Canada would be on the list but it’s too cold!!
After that maybe Spain. Never been to any of them(wasn’t there a song made about that? Oh I’ve never been to England, Spain_Oh never mind…) before
I live in the upper Midwest USA.
I would of course want to see and visit these places, first before actually moving there.
I like it here, though, but those are places I would be interested in if I couldn’t live here.
 
I live in Oklahoma now, but during our military years we lived in Europe for many years. I loved it and wouldn’t change a thing. We had babies there, I even put my children in the local schools and we all learned other languages. It was a priceless time in our lives. If you have a chance to live abroad, jump at it!
 
Yeah, I like living in Scotland. We were up in the highlands, and that was really beautiful. It’s nice, though, to be back in “civilization” near the stores and plenty of Catholic churches.
 
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