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Did he do that? Then I will say my justification on that.
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And is it true just becasue you said so???
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Khalfan
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I can see the fruits, if I open any european channel.
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Khalfan
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You are supposed to say this to CHET.Why is it you can quote dozens of different Bible versions for 1 John 5:7, but don’t have dozens of versions for John 10:36?
What does all this have to do with proving Muhammad was the last prophet? Answer: nothing.
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Khalfan
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Correct. You do have a lot of versions!!! The only problem is, NO TWO BIBLES ARE SIMILAR.
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No, it’s for you. What does all this have to do with the claim that Muhammad is the last prophet?
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Yes, 911, Oklahoma City, the USS Cole, bombings in London, and Spain, the attack on Jewish women leaving a synagogue in Seattle, the killer who received a heroes burial when his body was returned to Bosnia after he shot up a mall in Utah.
Oh wait, you’re referring to the general decadence of the west. This has nothing to do with Christianity or Jesus’ message.
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Because we lost those privious books. Or it is there somewhere in OT, but cannot be recognised from human incertions.
Injeel is not Gospels according to John etc. Injeel is the words of God that came to Jesus (pbuh).
Confirming the message of One God is the point. It is not the point to confirm the human comments, dreams and fabrications in any book.
Truly God did send prophets (pbut).
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Khalfan
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Do you expect all of them had to do many things with Islam? Islam doesn’t teach to attack or to kill anyone.
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Khalfan
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You and Chet were arguing on NT. So it should be for yourself and to Chet.
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MHalsey
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And we were arguing with you, not each other.
Check your post 670. YOU were the one who quoted all the different versions.
Besides, the quotes all have the same meaning even if they don’t use the same words. As an example:
Do they all contradict each other, or are all correct?
But like I said, this still has nothing to do with Muhammad.
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Jesus is the Word of God made flesh!
Does this mean that the Quran also has fabrications?
Yes, he did but Jesus also told us that there would be false prophets!
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The Qur’an teaches that the sun sets into a Muddy Spring on earth. According to Sura 18:86, the sun literally sets into a muddy spring or a black sea here on Earth, and Sura 18:90 mentions a specific place on Earth where the sun rises. Many Muslims try and say about this absurdity “oh this is poetic”. Nice try, it cannot be dismissed as figurative language or poetic, because it is given as part of an historical narrative.
The Qur’an says that one of the righteous men of God’s servants saw the sun set in a certain place of the earth—in particular a well full of water and mud. There, this man found some people. Let us read what is recorded in the Qur’an (chapter “the Cave”, Sura 18 verse 86).
“Until when he reached the place where the sun set, he found it going down into a black sea, and found by it a people. We said: O Zulqarnain! either give them a chastisement or do them a benefit.”
Zamakhshari remarks in his book, “the Kash-shaf”,
“Abu Dharr (one of Muhammad’s close companions) was with Muhammad during the sunset. Muhammad asked him: ‘Do you know, O Abu Dharr where this sets?’ He answered: ‘God and His apostle know better.’ Muhammad said: ‘It sets in a spring of slimy water”’ (3rd Edition, Volume 2 p. 743,1987).
In his book, “The Lights of Revelation” (p. 399), the Baydawi indicates, *“The sun sets in a slimy spring; that is, a well which contains mud.” *
Why were stars created? In Sura 67:5 we read that the stars were created to be thrown at devils (Shaitans).
There was rain before the flood. Genesis 2:5-7 is only referring to before Adam was created, for it says:
*"And every plant of the field before it sprung up in the earth, and every herb of the ground before it grew: for the Lord God had not rained upon the earth; and there was not a man to till the earth. But a spring rose out of the earth, watering all the surface of the earth. " *
Also, rain is not the only thing that caused the flood the Bible says that the “fountains of the great deep” contributed the most of the water:
“In the six hundredth year of the life of Noah, in the second month, in the seventeenth day of the month, all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the flood gates of heaven were opened: And the rain fell upon the earth forty days and forty nights.”
Some definite conclusions can be drawn from the Biblical text:
- The fountains of the great deep were subterranean in origin.
- The fountains of the great deep were the primary source of the water of the Genesis flood.
The exact depth of this water within the Earth’s crust varies with different models.
Hydroplate theory places the water below a 10 mile thick crust, the remnants of which are now the continental crust. Hydroplate theory is the first flood model to deal with the springs of the great deep.
Modeling the fountains of the deep is an important aspect of any Flood model and one where hydroplate theory excels. It is an important aspect of flood geology but one that still requires much work.
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and you go on to say this is because…
Logical Fallacy - Red Herring
logicalfallacies.info/redherring.html
For now we can overlook the fact that you’re trying to portray all the above as being timeless moral injunctions rather than the situation-specific commands that they are, because there’s something a lot more telling about what you just said here.
I keep mentioning that I could probably write a book on all the Muslim double-standards that I’ve witnessed so far… The funny thing here is, you claim that God needs to send us all instructions in the form of a book to tell us what we should and should not do. It is Muslim belief that even if these commands do not seem to make sense to us, that we should follow them anyway. Now here you suddenly take the role of judging for yourself what God would or would not say. A little presumptuous, is it not?
It doesn’t matter how many times you say that Trinity means “three gods”… everyone here knows this is a lie, and you’re not going to fool anyone here no matter how many times you repeat it.
Yet another RED HERRING. If you want to discuss this, start another thread.
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Exodus 3:13-14
Jesus uses Gods name to identify Himself and the Jews knew what He was saying.
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That is not true. You might think it makes your point that it was limited to the Jews only because Jesus said that, but He also said other things:
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Mark 14:9
9 I tell you the truth, wherever the gospel is preached throughout the world, what she has done will also be told, in memory of her."
Mark 16:15
15He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation.
John 3:16
16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
John 6:51
51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."
John 12:47
47 "As for the person who hears my words but does not keep them, I do not judge him. For I did not come to judge the world, but to save it.
There is much more that shows how Christ and the Good News was always intended for the entire world. He knew His time was limited becasue He was to be killed, and so His ministry was limited to the Jews only. They were the ones invited to the feast.
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I DID READ IT …thanks though
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