Muhammed or Jesus: The prophet like unto Moses

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Interesting. I need to ponder on this for a bit

Do you happen to know when Muslims started saying the Muhammed was the Prophet like unto Moses? I would guess that it was fairly early, as they did have contact with Jews, but I would like a more informed opinion
I really don’t know. It would imply going into their scripture. It could have been a convert to Islam from Judaism who said it but I really don’t know.
 
I really don’t know. It would imply going into their scripture. It could have been a convert to Islam from Judaism who said it but I really don’t know.
That is fine. I may try to check a Muslim site and see what I can find out
 
like a glove: Prophet Muhammad IS like Moses and Jesus is NOT like Moses (pbuta)

Here goes:

Moses: 40 when he received Prohethood
Muhammad: 40 when they received Prohethood
Jesus: 30 when they received Prohethood
Jesus was not a prophet. Jesus IS God.
Moses: Had Mother and Father
Muhammad: Had mother and Father
Jesus: Only had mother
God the Father is Jesus’s Father.
Moses: led his nation from persecution to a new land in an exodus
Muhammad: led his nation from persecution to a new land in an exodus
Jesus: Didn’t
Jesus: Led His people into a new covenant
**Moses **: Met Allah
Muhammad: Met Allah
Jesus: Didn’t
This is the most telling. Since Muslims teach us that Allah has no son then Allah cannot be God. Therefore Moses didn’t meet Allah, he met God. Jesus, being God, states that He never saw Allah (Isaiah 43:10-11)
“You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD,
"and my servant whom I have chosen,
so that you may know and believe me
and understand that I am he.
Before me no god was formed,
nor will there be one after me.
I, even I, am the LORD,
and apart from me there is no savior.
Moses: Not the son of God
Muhammad: Not the son of God
Jesus: Christian claims that he is the son of God
No claims, just the Truth.
Moses: Victorious over enemies
Muhammad: Victorious over enemies
Jesus: According to Christianity he got killed by them
You have stated this wrong, it should read
Jesus Victorious over the Enemy.
I think it is pretty obvious that Prophet Muhammad is like Prophet Moses (pbuh) and nothing like Jesus (pbuh)

Therefore Prophet Muhammad is lke Moses and Jesus is not like Moses in any way.
I’ll grant you that Muhammad is similar to Moses on many superficial levels. However Moses was a prophet of God. That alone separates him from Muhammad. Not trying to be uncharitable, but just stating facts based upon the claims of Islam.
 
like a glove: Prophet Muhammad IS like Moses and Jesus is NOT like Moses (pbuta)

Here goes:

Moses: 40 when he received Prohethood
Muhammad: 40 when they received Prohethood
Jesus: 30 when they received Prohethood

Moses: Had Mother and Father
Muhammad: Had mother and Father
Jesus: Only had mother

Moses: Married and had children
Muhammad: Married and had children
Jesus: Never married and had no children

Moses: led his nation from persecution to a new land in an exodus
Muhammad: led his nation from persecution to a new land in an exodus
Jesus: Didn’t

**Moses **: Met Allah
Muhammad: Met Allah
Jesus: Didn’t

Moses: came with new comprehensive law
Muhammad: Came with new comprehensive law
Jesus: Didn’t

Moses: had legal authority over people
Muhammad: had legal authority over people
Jesus: Didn’t

Moses: accepted by his people
Muhammad: accepted by his people
Jesus: Wasn’t

Moses: Natural birth
Muhammad: Natural Birth
Jesus: Unnatural birth

Moses: Natural death
Muhammad: Natural Death
Jesus: Was killed according to the Christian

Moses: Was buried in a grave and remains there
Muhammad: Was buried in a grave and remains there
Jesus: in Heaven

Moses: Never resurrected after death
Muhammad: Never resurrected after death
Jesus: Resurrected

Moses: Not the son of God
Muhammad: Not the son of God
Jesus: Christian claims that he is the son of God

Moses: Victorious over enemies
Muhammad: Victorious over enemies
Jesus: According to Christianity he got killed by them

Moses: It was never claimed of him that he was God
Muhammad: It was never claimed of him that he was God
Jesus: Christians claims he is God

I think it is pretty obvious that Prophet Muhammad is like Prophet Moses (pbuh) and nothing like Jesus (pbuh)

Therefore Prophet Muhammad is lke Moses and Jesus is not like Moses in any way.

Of course all of them had miracles etc (they were all prophets after all) but the lives Moses and Mhammad led are exactly the same - the same cannot be said of Jesus (pbuta)

Isn’t it obvious or do you deny the above?

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:confused: You are trying too hard…What you did was takes what you found common between the two. People can make such comparisons between any two things.🤷

You made 15 comparisons (bolded are your comparisons)
Had Mother and Father
Natural Birth
Natural Death
It was never claimed of him that he was God
Not the son of God
Was buried in a grave and remains there
Never resurrected after death


Very bad comparisons. Nearly ALL human beings meets these requirements.
Seven comparisons to go.
Married and had children
had legal authority over people
accepted by his people


Any married leader meets these and the ones above
Five comparisons to go
Victorious over enemies
Okay, a leader who won a battle. Four comparisons to go
came with new comprehensive law
A person with new ideas
40 when he received Prohethood
How do you know he was 40 and Jesus was 30. Any Islamic sources?
Two comparisons to go
led his nation from persecution to a new land in an exodus
Met Allah


Among the points, these two are the only ones that I would think are good comparisons for your argument.

Nearly all your points are very general. There are many people who could meet many of them, one being Castro. Assuming that he would have a natural death, he would meet 12 out of the 15 points (those mentioned in 1,2,3,4). His followers would also consider him to be a person who “led his nation from persecution to a new land”. All he needs to do is claim that he met God and has a message for his people 😃

Now, the two points that are comparatively good points
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**Moses **: Met Allah
Muhammad: Met Allah
Jesus: Didn’t
Wrong Jesus did see the Father. The verse that no one has seen the Father except the one who comes from him, referring to himself.
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Moses: led his nation from persecution to a new land in an exodus
Muhammad: led his nation from persecution to a new land in an exodus
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I don't find this point to be correct. Firstly, Muhammad didn't lead a nation! He led a few hundred followers, not a nation. The Hijra is also very different from the exodus. The Hijra was the migration of Muhammad from where they lived to Medina (at the invitation of its leaders). The exodus on the other hand was from a foreign land to the land that was given to them by God. Muhammad returned and conquered Mecca, no such thing happened between the Israelites and Egypt.
PS: any one else can think of people who meet many of Hamza’s requirements.
 
Jesus was not a prophet. Jesus IS God.
Well then, Jesus is NOT like Moses cus Moses aint God, is he?
God the Father is Jesus’s Father
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Moses and Muhammad (pbut) had earthly normal fathers
Jesus: Led His people into a new covenant
That is not the same. Both Moses and Muhammad (pbut) led their people who were being persecuted away from a land into a new one far away. a physical bodily movement of a large group of people away from persecution…that’s the similarity

Additionally, both Jewish and Muslim calendars begin with their own particular exodus. Another similarity
I’ll grant you that Muhammad is similar to Moses on many superficial levels. However Moses was a prophet of God. That alone separates him from Muhammad. Not trying to be uncharitable, but just stating facts based upon the claims of Islam.
I would not call these similarities “superficial” they are very important and very deep. Birth, death, leaders of nations, excepted by their own people, came with books and laws, exodus, prophethood at the same age, both appeared in the court of God and spoke, no other two people in history have had the same lives as these two people. Like i said, it fits like a glove.

Jesus (pbuh) is nothing like Moses, come on! Okay, miracles, etc but we are talking about two people (moses and muhammad (pbut) who lived such amazingly similar lives and as such, it s true that ONLY Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) fits that prophecy - its obvious.

Jesus (pbuh) never ruled a nation, never lead them from percecution to safty in another land, nor was he accepted by them, he had no authority over them, he didn’t bring a book, his birth and death were completely different to Prophets Moses and Muhammad (pbut), he never got married and had kids…come on people, they are NOT the same and the biggets thing is that Jesus (you claim) is GOD…!!! in no way can he be similar

Jesus is not like Moses in spirituality (cus you say Jesus is God) and never lead a life that even remotely resembles the life of Moses in any way

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I don’t find this point to be correct. Firstly, Muhammad didn’t lead a nation! He led a few hundred followers, not a nation. The Hijra is also very different from the exodus. The Hijra was the migration of Muhammad from where they lived to Medina (at the invitation of its leaders). The exodus on the other hand was from a foreign land to the land that was given to them by God. Muhammad returned and conquered Mecca, no such thing happened between the Israelites and Egypt.
It was a nation, the followers were known as “the Ummah” (people or nation) and we are known as that today. The sizes were slightly different (but not that much) remember Madina is hundrerds of miles away from Mecca, almost 600 kilometers or 2 weeks travelling.

Prophet Muhammad returning and conquering is NOT the issue, the issue is that they both moved their people in an exodus to a new land, this cannot be denied and therefore Muhammad is like Moses in that regard. (pbut)
 
It was a nation, the followers were known as “the Ummah” (people or nation) and we are known as that today.
You may consider yourself to be a nation, but I have yet to see a secular person refer to the people of the Hijra as a nation. In the end,they were Meccans who became Muslim (but were still Meccans), whereas the Israelites were foreigners in Egypt.
The sizes were slightly different (but not that much)
From where did you get this. One site states that a few hundred accompanied Muhammad, compared to 600,000 Israelites men during the Exodus. That is not slightly different.

This Islamic site implies a lower number.
"At last, therefore, Muhammad sent seventy of his followers off to the northern town of Yathrib, which was later to be renamed Medina (“The City”). Later, in the early fall of 622, he learned of a plot to murder him and, with his closest friend, Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, set off to join the emigrants…This was the Hijrah "
Source: islamicity.com/mosque/ihame/Sec2.htm
remember Madina is hundrerds of miles away from Mecca, almost 600 kilometers or 2 weeks travelling.
Thats a short journey. In case you weren’t aware, the exodus was about a hundred years. A whole generation died and a new generation took its place.
Prophet Muhammad returning and conquering is NOT the issue, the issue is that they both moved their people in an exodus to a new land, this cannot be denied and therefore Muhammad is like Moses in that regard. (pbut)
Other than people moving from point A to point B, nearly everything is different.
 
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Moses … saw the similitude or form of the LORD. . …
"And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.

New American Standard Bible

scripturetext.com/john/5-37.htm

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anyway , to Christians , Jesus (p) is God , both Moses & Muhammed (pbut) are His creations . So , if Jesus (p) is really the God Almighty , why Christians bother to compare God with His creations ?
 
My translation doesn’t say that.

The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him.

That’s what mine says. Interesting.

Either way, I still don’t buy that it means Children of Israel, even with your translation. Because still Muhamamd fits, because he was in the midst of the Jews of Arabia, who were expecting a prophet at that time. And he was still among the brothers of the Children of Israel.
Legally speaking, Ishmael was not a brother of Isaac. And Ismael did not have the right of inheritance of Abraham. Someone even argue that the Quraisy (the tribe of Muhammad) was not the same as the tribe of Arab dwelled in the western part of Arabia, which is another way of saying the Quraisy was not the decendent of Ishmael. From the OT side, it is already clear that Ishmael, legally speaking, was not a brother of Isaac.
 
This might help. It is the whole Chapter that contains that prophacy

This entire Chapter is about the Tribe of Levi. If that is correct, then the prophacy would be as well.

This was from the NAB translation off of the USCCB site. The footnotes have some points.

John 6:14

John 7:40

Acts 3:20-26

Acts 7:37

Now, more than once, Jesus mentioned how he was the Fulfillment of the OT. His followers did as well. The ties between Jesus understanding this and the early Church doing so is very strong.

Is this prophacy specifically mentioned in the QUr’an? If so, did the followers of Muhammed see it as such? Did Muhammed?
Muhammad clearly did not know anything about the NT bible. All things he got about Christianity is from the heresy such as the gospel of Barnabas, and similar kind of stuff.
 
That is fine. I may try to check a Muslim site and see what I can find out
The same tactic that Muhammad used to gain followers among the Jews or Jews decendent living around Medina. Claiming that he was the promised prophet mentioned in the OT. To sweeten up, he make Jerusalem as the Qiblah. When he failed to gain followers among the Jews, who believe that no prophet would rise from Ishmael, then he dismissed the Jews, and changed the Qiblah to Kabaa in Mecca. Interestingly, Muslims claim that Allah does not dwell in Kabaa, but believed that Allah order them (through Muhammad, of course) to face the empty stone building when praying. That really makes God looks like a kind of human who made errors.
 
Jesus was not a prophet. Jesus IS God.

God the Father is Jesus’s Father.

Jesus: Led His people into a new covenant

This is the most telling. Since Muslims teach us that Allah has no son then Allah cannot be God. Therefore Moses didn’t meet Allah, he met God. Jesus, being God, states that He never saw Allah (Isaiah 43:10-11)
“You are my witnesses,” declares the LORD,
"and my servant whom I have chosen,
so that you may know and believe me
and understand that I am he.
Before me no god was formed,
nor will there be one after me.
I, even I, am the LORD,
and apart from me there is no savior.

No claims, just the Truth.

You have stated this wrong, it should read
Jesus Victorious over the Enemy.

I’ll grant you that Muhammad is similar to Moses on many superficial levels. However Moses was a prophet of God. That alone separates him from Muhammad. Not trying to be uncharitable, but just stating facts based upon the claims of Islam.
Moses got the Revelation from God, and the law holds. No error in it. Muhammad claim to get the revelation from God, made many errors in Quran such as :

Claiming that Christian believe in : God, Jesus and Mary
Claiming that Mary the mother of Jesus was the sister of Aaron who in fact were separated by 1.500 years apart.

and more.
 
My translation doesn’t say that.

The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to him.

That’s what mine says. Interesting.

Either way, I still don’t buy that it means Children of Israel, even with your translation. Because still Muhamamd fits, because he was in the midst of the Jews of Arabia, who were expecting a prophet at that time. And he was still among the brothers of the Children of Israel.
**Thank you very much sis Amy for explaining things to the christian friends here. I see some different wording of the verse Deut 18:18.

The original knowledge I had about the verse was as follows:

" I shall raise them up a prophet, like unto thee, from amongst their brethren**," It is not " from among your own brothers."

These people are making slight changes in the words of the bible daily to suit their purpose. That change “from among your own brothers” is a grave mistake and takes the meaning away from original intended meaning.

From amongst their brethren means, as you said, from amongst the brethren of the israelis, i.e. Ishmailis. If God wanted to raise a prophet fromt he Jews,He would have said, " I shall raise a prophet like unto thee from your own people (or from amongst the Israelis)." Not from their brethren.
Or, it would have addressed Moses alone and would have said “from amongst YOUR brethren.” But Allah said that He would raise a prophet from amongst THEIR brethren. Their means many Jews. THAT PROPHET will come from the brethren of the Jews.

So that settles it. That prophet (whom these people have started calling ‘The prophet’ in bible NT (John ch.1 )) was coming from the brethren of the Jews, not from the brethren of Moses.

The Jews cannot be their own brethren.
 
**Thank you very much sis Amy for explaining things to the christian friends here. I see some different wording of the verse Deut 18:18.

The original knowledge I had about the verse was as follows:

" I shall raise them up a prophet, like unto thee, from amongst their brethren**," It is not " from among your own brothers."

These people are making slight changes in the words of the bible daily to suit their purpose. That change “from among your own brothers” is a grave mistake and takes the meaning away from original intended meaning.

From amongst their brethren means, as you said, from amongst the brethren of the israelis, i.e. Ishmailis. If God wanted to raise a prophet fromt he Jews,He would have said, " I shall raise a prophet like unto thee from your own people (or from amongst the Israelis)." Not from their brethren.
Or, it would have addressed Moses alone and would have said “from amongst YOUR brethren.” But Allah said that He would raise a prophet from amongst THEIR brethren. Their means many Jews. THAT PROPHET will come from the brethren of the Jews.

So that settles it. That prophet (whom these people have started calling ‘The prophet’ in bible NT (John ch.1 )) was coming from the brethren of the Jews, not from the brethren of Moses.

The Jews cannot be their own brethren.
A nice job of playing with semantic. The problem is, only the follower of Muhammad believe that Muhammad is a prophet because if they don’t… Similarly, only the the Ahmadiya believe that Mirzha Ghulam Ahmad is the Imam Mahdi. Other Muslims said NO. Jesus, although the Muslims said He is no God, but still admit that Jesus is a prophet. That makes many differences.
 
I had this discussion on another site. The Muslim poster resorted to “Muhammed rode a Camel and so did Moses” and “Both names begin with M”
**The orignal poster ( Special Ed) has also ommitted many similarities. It could be added that:
6. Moses used to eat food. Jesus also ate food.
7. Mosed used to walk. Jesus also walked.
8. Moses used to breath. Jesus also breathed.
9. Moses used to talk to people. Jesus also talked to people.
10. Moses was in Egypt. Jesus also remained (12 years) in Egypt
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Hamza has taken a better stand about similarities. More of those will soon be forthcoming. There is clear mention of Muhammad being the like of Moses in the Quran.
(73:15) Surely We have sent to you a messenger (Muhammad), i.e a guardian over you, (exactly) as we sent a messenger to Pharoah."

That was Moses a.s. The Quran is saying that the coming of Muhamamd is like the coming of Moses to Pharoah. That is a proof that Muhammad is like Moses a.s. I hope no such verse is available in the bibleNT telling us that Jesus was the like of Moses. But Quran says that Muhammad is the like of Moses, i.e. see verse 73:15 again.

We will soon take up the similarity in spiritual matters too. There is no similarity in Moses and Jesus. One is a man. The other a God. Both are different categories, different status.

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**Thank you very much sis Amy for explaining things to the christian friends here. I see some different wording of the verse Deut 18:18.

The original knowledge I had about the verse was as follows:

" I shall raise them up a prophet, like unto thee, from amongst their brethren**," It is not " from among your own brothers."

These people are making slight changes in the words of the bible daily to suit their purpose. That change “from among your own brothers” is a grave mistake and takes the meaning away from original intended meaning.

From amongst their brethren means, as you said, from amongst the brethren of the israelis, i.e. Ishmailis. If God wanted to raise a prophet fromt he Jews,He would have said, " I shall raise a prophet like unto thee from your own people (or from amongst the Israelis)." Not from their brethren.
Or, it would have addressed Moses alone and would have said “from amongst YOUR brethren.” But Allah said that He would raise a prophet from amongst THEIR brethren. Their means many Jews. THAT PROPHET will come from the brethren of the Jews.

So that settles it. That prophet (whom these people have started calling ‘The prophet’ in bible NT (John ch.1 )) was coming from the brethren of the Jews, not from the brethren of Moses.

The Jews cannot be their own brethren.
Wrong. That passage was addressed to the Levites. Therefore, the Prophet could come from one of the other tribes, like Juda (Jesus).
 
** The prophesy in the Quran (beginning of chapter 30) is a very famous important prophesy. The Persians and the Romans were at war sometimes. The pagans of Makkah were pro Persians because both were pagans. Persians were fire worshippers. The verses were revealed in Makkah, as follows:
[30:1] Alif Lam Mim.
[30:1] اَنَا اللّٰہُ اَعلَمُ: ۔
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[30:2[ غُلِبَتِ الرُّوْمُۙ‏
[30:2] The Romans have been defeated,
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________________________________________: فِىْۤ اَدْنَى الْاَرْضِ وَهُمْ مِّنْۢ بَعْدِ غَلَبِهِمْ سَيَغْلِبُوْنَۙ‏
[30:3] In the land nearby, and they, after their defeat, will be victorious. **
________________________________________فِىْ بِضْعِ سِنِيْنَ‌ ؕ لِلّٰهِ الْاَمْرُ مِنْ قَبْلُ وَمِنْۢ بَعْدُ ؕ وَيَوْمَٮِٕذٍ يَّفْرَحُ الْمُؤْمِنُوْنَۙ‏
[30:4] In a few years — Allah’s is the command before and after that — and on that day the believers will rejoice,
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________________________________________30:6] بِنَصْرِ اللّٰهِ‌ؕ يَنْصُرُ مَنْ يَّشَآءُ ؕ وَهُوَ الْعَزِيْزُ الرَّحِيْمُۙ‏
[30:5] With the help of Allah. He helps whom He pleases; and He is the Mighty, the Merciful.
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30:7] وَعْدَ اللّٰهِ‌ؕ لَا يُخْلِفُ اللّٰهُ وَعْدَهٗ وَلٰـكِنَّ اَكْثَرَ النَّاسِلَاَعْلَمُوْنَ‏
[30:6] Allah has made this promise. Allah breaks not His promise, but most men know not.
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The few Muslims in Makkah were pro Roman. It was an early period of Islam and the Muslims were highly persecuted by the pagans of Makkah.

In a war in year 618 A.D. (approx) the Persians defeated the Roman (Christians). The king of Persia (Khusro Pervez) took a beautiful young lady (Shirin) from the Roman king as ransom, married her and she was the Queen in Persia.

The pagans of Makkah celebrated the victory of the Pagans over the Christians. At that time these verses were revealed by God to Muhammad that even though the Persians have prevailed over the Romans in the nearby lands and the Romans are (apparently) defeated, but the Romans will soon be victorious over their enemies with a few years. The word “ Bidah=few” means within 3 to 9 years. So the Quran had predicted a clear victory for the Roman christians over the Persians within 3 to 9 years.

How can it be denied. This prophesy is of a very high order. It is foretold with certainty: It is said that it is a sure news from Allah and Allah has sure knowledge of all things.

There is much more in it. It is telling that within the same time period (3 to 9 years), there will be help from Allah and the Muslims will also have some good news. Please remember that the prophet had not yet migrated to Madinah and there was no idea of migration at that time.

It is said that Muslims will also have cause for rejoice so they will have double happiness because the Romans will win and the Muslims will also prevail upon their enemies in the same time.

It so happened that the Roman beat back the Persians in the year 624 A.D. and the Muslims also defeated the pagan army of Makkah at the field of Badr in year 624 A.D. It was a time of double happiness and the Muslims of Madinah celebrated the victory of the Romans over the Persians. The reason for the celebration was not only because the believers, i.e. the people of the book (Christians) defeated the pagans. It was necessary to celebrate the prophecy too, that it had come true. That, the word of God had been proved true.
 
mohammed was a self-proclaimed prophet who changed the message of the prophets that he claims to be a part of.

Was mohammed a prophet?

He was also not from the House of Israel or from the seed of David.

10 Reasons why islam is not From God

Reason #1:

Islam cannot be from God because the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, did not pass God’s first test for a prophet. Deuteronomy 18:21-22 tells us that God will authenticate those He sends as a prophet by having them perform signs. Muhammad gave no sign as required by God.

Reason #2:

Islam cannot be from God because Muhammad’s teaching does not pass the second test God gave for a prophet. Deuteronomy 13:1-4 tells us that no prophet will bring a revelation that is in conflict with previous revelation. His revelation must agree with the previous revelation of God. Deuteronomy 13:1-4

Reason #3:

Islam cannot be from God because it denies the Godhood of Jesus. In the Qur’an, Muhammad takes great pains to deny the deity of Jesus. It demeans Jesus and makes him just a man. In Philippians, Paul asserts that Jesus existed in the form of God.

Reason #4:

Islam cannot be from God because Muhammad frequently changed his revelations to suit circumstances. The classic example is Muhammad’s teaching on drinking. When he was just beginning to teach, before Muhammad gained a significant following he said that it was alright to drink.

Reason #5:

Islam cannot be from God because its appeal is to man’s lower nature rather than his higher nature. Compare the Biblical appeal of heaven to the Quranic appeal of heaven.

(my comment: Satan cannot offer anything other than the carnal wishes and desires of human beings and this is why all that is offered to those who follow him is a big orgy in heaven - nothing more and a lot less, especially if one is a woman!)

Reason #6:

Islam cannot be from God because its morality is inferior to the morality taught by the New Testament.

Reason #7:

Islam cannot be from God because it is based upon a document, the Qur’an, made after God said revelation was finished.

Reason #8:

Islam cannot be from God because it is based upon the Qur’an which has internal contradictions. Any revelation from God will be consistent within itself.

Reason #9:

Islam cannot be from God because the Qur’an frequently contradicts the Bible.

Reason #10:

Islam cannot be from God because it denies the crucifixion of Jesus.
 
Reason #11:

Islam cannot be from God because God has said His Name is I AM

Reason #12:

Islam cannot be from God because it denies Christians and Jews humanity (the People of the Book are second-class citizens in Islamic nations)

Reason #13:

Islam cannot be from God because it was spread by the sword, whereas God demands mercy

Reason #14:

Islam cannot be from God because Allah is not even close to God (He can’t even correctly explain the Trinity)

Reason #15:

Islam cannot be from God because Mohammed was far from being an example of righteousness

If Muslims consider this bashing, than so be it. But I doubt any of them can refute the claims. I’ve read the Koran, I’ve read hadiths, I’ve researched Mohammed’s life and I’ve come to know more about Islam thanks to many posts on CAF (both by Muslims and non-Muslims), so I know what I’m saying when Islam is not from God.
 
Moses got the Revelation from God, and the law holds. No error in it. Muhammad claim to get the revelation from God, made many errors in Quran such as :

Claiming that Christian believe in : God, Jesus and Mary
Claiming that Mary the mother of Jesus was the sister of Aaron who in fact were separated by 1.500 years apart.

and more.
**There were no mistakes. We see even today, the catholics are discussing whether they worship Mary or not and whether they should worship Mary or not. Some are bent upon worshipping her because she is the mother of god (Jesus).

We see a mother of god and a father of god in heavens (or every where) and another name sake father i.e. Joseph the carpentar. And we have a mother of god too, all these are unreal relations. Quran has rightly reported that the christians in those days worshipped Mary in the middle east area.

Your saying that Quran calls Maryam the sister of Aaron. That is a great news for you and all the christians here. They do not understand the high level language of the Quran, like the actual disciples of Jesus never understood the parables of Jesus.

Please remember that Quran does not call Mary as the sister of Moses. Why is that? Quran calls her “O, sister of Aaron…”

For that you have to understand what Aaron used to do and what were his duties in the temple and what was Mary doing in the temple before her marriage to Joseph the carpentar.

Because you have asked few questions, may I also ask one or two? There is a triangular relation between God (the Father of Jesus) and Jesus and Mary (the mother of Jesus). Jesus has got a mother and a Father. There is a relation established before Mary left the temple with God. Now how could she be married to any one? Please tell.

When you will undrstand those things then you will know the language of the Quran and why does not Quran call her the sister of Moses a.s. Moses and Aaron were brothers. They were the children of Imran. Imran was the son of Qahath the son of Lavi. (in service of the temple. Mary was doing same thing i.e. service of the temple. So she can be called “O, sister of Aaron…”**
 
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