Music at the NY Sunday Mass

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For all of those out there who, like myself (to some extent), disliked the music during the Nationals Park Mass, I have good news.

Fr. Richard John Neuhaus:

“I have had the privilege of seeing the musical programme for the Mass at Yankee Stadium on Sunday, and, without referring to any other Mass that has taken place in any other stadium, in any place else in the world, at any time, without any reference to that, what is proposed for Yankee Stadium is magnificent. It is, as I see the programme, going to be an admirable expression of the richness of the Christian and Catholic tradition: liturgically, ritually, and musically. I think it will warm the hearts of all those who hold dear, as Pope Benedict does, the riches of the Church’s tradition of worship.”

Source (scroll down to the link to the video on the visit to the synagogue and ecumenical meeting at St. Joseph’s; then skip ahead to about 1:35:00).
 
I have also seen the music list for Yankee stadium. It has been available for a few weeks now. Yes, it will be more traditional, and probably more to the liking of some here, But, you may have noticed, that each venue has had a different musical expression. This seems to represent the huge variety of musical and worship styles we have here in the US…and that to me is good. There is not one way to express worship through music…yet the important elements, the proclamation of the word of God and the sacrifice on the altar, remain the same.

I am a bit dissapointed that I will not be able to watch the Mass at St Patrick’s live since I will be at the soup kitchen this morning, but I am sure it will be an uplifting joyful expression of worship. I’ll catch the rerun tonight.

By the way, our diocesan TV is not televising EWTN coverage and has our own team doing the commentary…and they are just great!
 
Joannm said:
Iweeks now. Yes, it will be more traditional, and probably more to the liking of some have also seen the music list for Yankee stadium. It has been available for a few here, But, you may have noticed, that each venue has had a different musical expression. This seems to represent the huge variety of musical and worship styles we have here in the US…and that to me is good. There is not one way to express worship through music…yet the important elements, the proclamation of the word of God and the sacrifice on the altar, remain the same.
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Joan, I am a native of New Orleans and by descent Cajun. As a New Orleanian and a Cajun, I have a wide variety of musical idoms from which to choose. My grandmother played ragtime on the parlor piano when I was a kid. I heard Dixieland brass bands, Al Hirt and Pete Fountain playing Jazz, Beausoleil avec Michael Doucet. I am surrounded by music of all sorts. Yet, we do not introduce our music into the Mass. There are no brass bands, jazz bands, or Cajun bands in our Masses. As a person of French ancestry, I am affronted by the excess I saw at Washington. I know full well that there are excellent composers of Latin rite music amongst the Cubans and Mexicans. I know full well that there are French composers (including local composers of sacred music ) who compose music not “for us” but for all of HMC. French is still spoken here and the Haitians both black and white came here in the 1790s. When does one stop being a 'culturally relevant" immigrant?

I can only hope that the next two Masses will reflect the fact that all of us were immigrants yet we were part of HMC.
 
Well…if Fr Niehuas approves then why form our own opinions…he speaks for…well…at least a few posters.
 
brotherhrolf said:
I can only hope that the next two Masses will reflect the fact that all of us were immigrants yet we were part of HMC.
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The is a good point worth commenting on.

We are diverse certainly. But we have a commonality in that we are all made in His image.

That is the part of us that will spend eternity with Him. That is the part that should “actively participate” in the highest form of Worship - the Mass.

When we come together for that celebration, it should be universal and in unity… not diverse.

While it is sad that so many adhere to the horizonal (diverse) approach to the liturgy, it is understandable. The Church is perfect and does not change or deviate. Those in it are not. That is why we must depend on the Vicar of Christ to lead the way to vertical liturgy. And he will.

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frommi said:
Well…if Fr Niehuas approves then why form our own opinions…he speaks for…well…at least a few posters.
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sorry, I had to giggle profusely at that. I’m sorry but Fr Neuhaus doesn’t speak for me.
 
Eilish_Maura said:
Nor does he speak for me.
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Probably for the best…he’s kind of been coming across as the grumpy uncle during most of the EWTN coverage (which itself has demonstrated the quality of a high school television production).
 
frommi said:
Probably for the best…he’s kind of been coming across as the grumpy uncle during most of the EWTN coverage (which itself has demonstrated the quality of a high school television production).
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MSNBC and CNN have also had coverage of many of the events of the Papal visit. EWTN has the encores, though. Some of their commentary has been good, but sometimes it’s been like chatter.
 
Joannm said:
Yes, it will be more traditional, and probably more to the liking of some here…
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It is probably worth noting that neither “more traditional” nor “more to the liking of some” are the ultimate standards by which Catholic sacred music should be judged. It should be ultimately judged by how closely it approaches the ideal clearly laid out by the Church. Imagine all the arguments that could be avoided if everybody just remembered and acknowledged that fact.
 
Here is the selection for the NYC Mass:
Yankee Stadium – Celebration of the Eucharist: April 20, 2008
Dr. Jennifer Pascual, Director of Music/ Mass Conductor
New York Archdiocesan Festival Chorale
Cathedral of St. Patrick Choir
Ulster County Vicariate Choir, Michael Sweeney, Director of Music
Donald Dumler, Organist
John Des Marias, Cantor
Joe Simmons, Psalmist
Entrance of concelebrants:
Symphony No. 9 in D minor – Ludwig van Beethoven
I. Allegro ma non troppo, un poco maestoso
II. Molto vivace
Entrance of the Holy Father:
Hymnus Pontificius – Charles Gounod, arr. Alberico Vitalini
Dixit from Vesperae Solennes de Confessore – Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Music for Mass:
Jesus is Risen/ Cristo Jesús Resucitó – arr. John Rutter
Tu es Petrus – Dom Lorenzo Perosi
Kyrie – from Litany of the Saints, adapt. Richard Proulx
Gloria from Missa O Magnum Mysterium – Tomás Luis da Victoria
Psalm – Dr. Jennifer Pascual
Alleluia (VICTORY) arr. Wm. Glenn Osborne
Credo III
Trilingual Intercessions – Michael Hay, orch. Wm. Glenn Osborne
How Lovely is thy Dwelling Place – Johannes Brahms
Sanctus from German Mass – Franz Schubert, adapt. Richard Proulx
Christ Has Died/ Amen - Franz Schubert, adapt. Richard Proulx
Agnus Dei from Missa O Magnum Mysterium – Tomás Luis da Victoria
Panis Angelicus – Cesár Franck, Marcello Giordani, Tenor, Metropolitan Opera
Sicut Cervus – Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina
Ave Verum – Alexandre Guilmant, orch. Deborah Jamini
Amén. El Cuerpo de Cristo - John Schiavonne, orch. Carl MaultsBy
Let Us Break Bread Together – arr. Carl MaultsBy
This is the Feast – Richard Hillert, arr. Richard Kidd
Joyful, Joyful, We Adore Thee/ Jubilosos te Adoramos – from Hymn to Joy
Fantasy – Bruce Saylor
Symphony No. 9 in D minor – Ludwig van Beethoven
IV. Presto
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This certainly fits into what the Holy Father has written about in his pre-papal writings and in Sacramentum Caritatis.

Incidentally, I have only seen the St. Patrick’s Mass in sections. I had to help out at an pet adoption event and so I’ve only been able to see major chunks of the Mass). However, from what I saw, the music was beautiful. Inasmuch as the onlyh caveat was Sr. Toolan’s I am the Bread of Life (and complaints about Rudy Giuliana receiving Holy Communion–another thread), the rest of the music was phenomenal. The psalm was intoned as it should be. When the Holy Father walked in, the choir sang the traditional Christus Vincit hymn (it was written for Pius XII and has been the Papal anthem, it is also Vatican Radio’s call signal). The Mass is going on right now so, I am trying to watch what I missed. From what I have seen, I managed to catch sight of one of our diocesan priests when they were panning the congregation. Our bishop got a lot of camera time, as well. He was next to one of the Eastern-rite bishops (behind the two deacons of the Mass).

The music for the ecumenical gathering was also beautiful. I know Draw Us in the Spirit’s Tether by heart and sang along. The other pieces were quite beautiful, as well
 
If anyone subscribes to Sirius Radio, the show “A Conversation with the Cardinal” on The Catholic Channel 159, you can hear this week’s show where Cardinal Egan recounts the Papal visit in New York City. Cardinal Egan did his best to keep to classical music, and the Holy Father loved it very much, and commented about the time it took for rehearsals.

This show, which originally aired on April 24, will be repeated a few times this weekend. I found it very uplifting and inspiring, it was like reliving the Papal visit of last week.
 
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