Music Leader Thread Part III - Song Lists, Suggestions, and Comments

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The King of Glory – I was practicing it way too fast…then started singing it and decided to slow it down a bit…a gal told me in early summer i needed to slow down a little anyway, she said she noticed some of the seniors trying to catch their breath!!! :eek:

Yep, I’ve slowed all of it down a bit…😊
 
oh my my my my…just saw the youtube and about had a stroke i laffed so hard…man that guy can DANCE!!😃

for the rest of my life i’ll think about that video whenever i hear or see the words “liturgical dance”…or “king of glory” for that matter.
 
Elizabeth779 said:
The King of Glory – I was practicing it way too fast…then started singing it and decided to slow it down a bit…a gal told me in early summer i needed to slow down a little anyway, she said she noticed some of the seniors trying to catch their breath!!! :eek:

Yep, I’ve slowed all of it down a bit…😊
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Haha. This reminds me of the time we sang O Come, Divine Messiah. The organist decided to play it really fast (lots of eighth notes), and it was getting hard to keep up. I think it’ll be interesting to see how The King of Glory plays out.
 
CatholicZ09 said:
I keep seeing you guys using The King of Glory. For those of you who use it, how fast do you play it? I have heard it played slowly like in 4/4 time, and I have heard it done fast. We are doing it on the Fourth Sunday of Advent. I’m thinking since it’s listed as an Israeli folk song, it would be sung fast.
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An excellent question. I had to find a metronome to answer. I play it aroung 90 bpm.

webmetronome.com/
 
CharlesinCenCA said:
In the most simple of definitions, the “cantus,” or melody of the chant is also sung simultaneously in absolute parallel motion at the interval of either a perfect fourth or perfect fifth. Organum among other vocal novelties or embellishments such as drones, isons and such evolved roughly circa the 8th and 9th centuries in monasteries of varying rites and chant traditions.
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Yes, this is a good definition of it. Sorry, Elizabeth, for not responding sooner. I’ve been away for the Thanksgiving holiday and am just catching up on my emails and such. Thank you, CharlesinCenCA, for answering Elizabeth’s question.
 
Dear Sarabande, my pleasure. We don’t use organum when we chant. I do yield to inspiration now and then and will add a drone, or better yet an ison to some of the more known Latin chants, and now the SEP’s. I also set the ICEL Glory with the ison in the sopranos in Latin augmented over the moving English text (and an accompaniment.) Isons provide an opportunity to further take the semiology further by removing any hint of meter or note value.
 
Elizabeth779 said:
What are the ICEL chants and where do I find them? (I’m in the Breaking Bread group…don’t throw verbal tomatoes…),

What are the Schubert’s Deuistsche Messe and Murray’s A New People’s Mass, and where do I find those as well? Thank you…

And now I’ll duck from the verbal tomatoes – hahahaha – a musician with a sense of humor! (very needed these days)!
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No verbal tomatoes from me. 🙂 Where ever I work, I have to use what is available at the churches and since I have no choice in what is bought and used for music, I’m paid to use whatever music is there and to make it sound as prayerful and spiritually beautiful as possible… whether or not I personally like it.

You can find Schubert’s mass for congregation below. Richard Proulx is the arranger of the music so that it fits into the Ordinary Form of the mass.

giamusic.com/search_details.cfm?title_id=10116

For some history on the piece: The music and text, in its original form, by Franz Schubert was composed as musical settings for what was called the Deutsche Singmesse. It was a form of the Low Mass in the Extraordinary Form that became part of the German Catholic tradition in German-speaking countries. In the classic singmesse the congregation would sing the mass in their language of German, rather than in Latin. Singmesses replaced orchestral masses, which was forbidden by Josef II during the 18th century.

You can hear the original here:
youtube.com/watch?v=QG2dchhD8EQ
 
St John Nepomucene Cleveland
Entrance Chant : Missal text set to Meinrad tone IV
Glory to God, from the Missal
Psalm refrain OCP
Creed sung Missal Chant
Glorly and Praise Forever OCP
Holy Missal Chant
Lamb of God Orbis Factor , English St Meinrad
Communion: proper by Fr. Columba Kelly
Recessional To Jesus CHrist Our SOvreign King

gregorianchant.weebly.com/
 
Here’s what we ended up singing this week at my parish:

Processional Hymn: #748 - “The King of Kings, Christ Jesus Reigns” ICH GLAUB AN GOTT
Preparation of the Gifts: #567 - “Come, Christians, Join to Sing” MADRID
Communion Hymn: #542 - “Christ, Be Our Light” Farrell
Recessional Hymn: #742 - “Rejoice, the Lord Is King” DARWALL’S 148TH

Have any of you ever used Come, Christians, Join to Sing? We use it frequently at my parish, and everyone sings it with fervor. It’s melody and words are very joyful. I had it stuck in my head all day.
Come, Christians, join to sing: Alleluia! Amen!
Loud praise to Christ, our King: Alleluia! Amen!
Let all, with heart and voice, Before his throne rejoice;
Praise is his gracious choice: Alleluia! Amen!
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Come, lift your hearts on high: Alleluia! Amen!
Let praises fill the sky: Alleluia! Amen!
He is our guide and friend; Our cry he will attend;
His love shall never end: Alleluia! Amen!
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Praise yet our Christ again: Alleluia! Amen!
Life shall not end the strain: Alleluia! Amen!
On heaven’s joyful shore His goodness we’ll adore,
Singing forevermore: Alleluia! Amen!
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This is what I used:

Gathering: “To Jesus Christ Our Soverign King”
Preperation: “Come Now Almighty King”
Mass of Redemption
Communion: “Now We Remain”
Closing: “Soon and Very Soon”

I know it’s two months away, but anyone have ideas for Catholic School’s Week the end of January? I’m planning it now because I have past students from our school coming back to form a sort of “Alumni Choir” specifically for that week.
 
pianomany2k said:
I know it’s two months away, but anyone have ideas for Catholic School’s Week the end of January? I’m planning it now because I have past students from our school coming back to form a sort of “Alumni Choir” specifically for that week.
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I would go with old favorites that everyone knows. I would also go with some hymns dealing with learning, growing in faith, etc.

Any praise-type hymns like “Joyful, Joyful, We Adore Thee”, “Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow”, “Praise to the Lord” etc. would be good options for processional/recessional, and hymns like “We Walk by Faith”, “Holy Wisdom, Lamp of Learning”, “Prayer of St. Francis”, etc. would be good for preparation, and Eucharistic hymns for Communion would fit well.
 
CatholicZ09 said:
Have any of you ever used Come, Christians, Join to Sing? We use it frequently at my parish, and everyone sings it with fervor. It’s melody and words are very joyful. I had it stuck in my head all day.
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Just sang it today. I’ve always enjoyed the hymn. It’s a shame it isn’t done that often.
 
Sarabande said:
Just sang it today. I’ve always enjoyed the hymn. It’s a shame it isn’t done that often.
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Agreed. I read the history on it, and it was orginally titled Come, Children, Join to Sing, and it was used as a children’s hymn, but many adults loved singing it, so “Children” was changed to “Christians”. I thought that was interesting.
 
CatholicZ09 said:
Agreed. I read the history on it, and it was orginally titled Come, Children, Join to Sing, and it was used as a children’s hymn, but many adults loved singing it, so “Children” was changed to “Christians”. I thought that was interesting.
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Yes, that is interesting. It does make for a nice children’s hymn. Funny thing is that this morning, while I was cantoring, I could hear my 2 (almost 3) year old singing out over the organ and the congregation during that hymn and another hymn. It took all of me not to giggle and choke up at the same time hearing her little voice sing out and melting my heart. She didn’t know any of the words, but would be just a tad behind to make out the words and notes she heard. My husband says most of the time she just was singing vowel sounds. So cute. 🙂
 
2 December - First Sunday of Advent

Introit: Ad te Levavi
Processional hymn: The advent of our God
Offertory: Lift up your heads, ye mighty gates
Communion: Come thou long expected Jesus and
Hark the Glad sound
Final: Lo, He comes with clouds descending
 
Suggestions for next weekend:

Saturday, December 8, 2012 - Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception - Year C

Processional Hymn: #202 - “Immaculate Mary” LOURDES HYMN
Preparation of the Gifts: #713 - “Mary, Woman of the Promise” DRAKES BROUGHTON
Communion Hymn: #39 - “O Come, O Come, Emmanuel” VENI, VENI, EMMANUEL
Recessional Hymn: #203 - “Hail, Holy Queen” SALVE REGINA COELITUM

Sunday, December 9, 2012 - Second Sunday of Advent - Year C

Processional Hymn: #41 - “On Jordan’s Bank” WINCHESTER NEW
Preparation of the Gifts: #57 - “Comfort, Comfort, O My People” GENEVA 42
Communion Hymn: #39 - “O Come, O Come, Emmanuel” VENI, VENI, EMMANUEL
Recessional Hymn: #62 - “The Advent of Our King” ST. THOMAS (WILLIAMS)

What we are doing at my parish for Sunday:

Processional Hymn: #77 - “Lift up Your Heads, Ye Mighty Gates” TRURO
Preparation of the Gifts: #39 - “O Come, O Come, Emmanuel” VENI, VENI, EMMANUEL
Communion Hymn: #72 - “Maranatha” Westphal
Recessional Hymn: #74 - “Every Valley” Dufford
 
Saint Mary’s Parish, California
Order of Music-1st Sunday Advent: Dec.2, 2012

S:Schola; E:Ensemble.
Introit:SE “Unto You I have lifted my soul” Simple English Propers/Adam Bartlett
Entrance: CREATOR OF THE STARS OF NIGHT Conditor alme siderum

S Kyrie (ICEL chant)
E Kyrie -Mass of St. Ann/*Ed Bolduc *

Responsorial: SE Respond & Acclaim

Gospel Accl.:S “Alleluia-Keep Your Lamps”Thomas/CDC
E Alleluia (Sleeth)

Offertory: S WAKE, O WAKE, SLEEP…. (Wachet auf)
E MARANATHA! COME LORD JESUS *SullivanWhitaker

E*ucharistic Accl.:S Holy/MemAcc./Amen/Lamb of God-Mass of St. Therese/Royce Nickel
E Holy/Christ/ Amen/Lamb (Bolduc)

Communion Procession SE “The Lord will bestow His loving kindness…Choral Communio/Richard.Rice
SE CHRIST CIRCLE ‘ROUND Schutte/Salve Regina

Communion Anthem: S KEEP YOUR LAMPS André Thomas
E SOON AND VERY SOON Andraé Crouch

Recessional: SE O COME, DIVINE MESSIAH Venez, Divin Messie
 
Sarabande said:
A friend of mine just introduced me to this composer’s music, having heard his Ubi Caritas at a mass recently. He’s a composer in his 30s, originally from Norway. Some beautiful choral music to consider if you have a choir at your parishes.

His website:
olagjeilo.com/

“O Magnum Mysterium”
youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=9Femr6-OMEM&feature=endscreen

“Ubi Caritas”
youtube.com/watch?v=3AYY8yoQCuw
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I’ve loved his Ubi Caritas ever since I heard it a while back. Here’s an even better recording (at least the first 30 seconds is better, that’s all I checked 🙂

youtube.com/watch?v=zvI5sNucz1w
 
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