Music leaders, show us your song list - NEW!!

[pnewton]

Songs of Thankfulness and Praise is a great bridge because it directly mentions the Gospel. “And at Cana wedding guest” is in verse 2.

I didn’t think you would be using He Turned the Water into Wine. That was the first thing that popped into my mind.

 

[benedictgal]

I didn’t think you would be using He Turned the Water into Wine. That was the first thing that popped into my mind.

Very funny.

Hey, are you going to the SWLC? It’s in your neck of the woods. I saw the topics and cringed. The Gateway Liturgical Conference was so much better. It’s a shame that they could not get someone from the CDWDS to come and address the group. At least Gateway had the secretary to the CDWDS (at the time) back n 2008 and Arinze in 2006.

They are having the OCP contingent at the SWLC. Too bad that there is nothing about chant, let alone genuine sacred music. Fr. Sam Weber, from St. Louis, would have made a great presenter. I really learned a lot from him that morning. He even did the chant settings for morning prayer that Saturday. They were simple, yet beautiful. He also confirmed a lot of what I had already suspected.

 

[pnewton]

Very funny.

Hey, are you going to the SWLC? I saw the topics and cringed. The Gateway Liturgical Conference was so much better. It’s a shame that they could not get someone from the CDWDS to come and address the group. At least Gateway had the secretary to the CDWDS (at the time) back n 2008 and Arinze in 2006.

No, I am working nights this week. It makes it hard to do anything. I find I have learn mostly by reading. That is not a bad thing. Conferences are hit and miss, depending on the quality of the presenter. Documents do a better job of keeping us all on the same page.

 

[hosea]

Actually, this week is quite rich. I love the homily that my parochial vicar preached the last time we had this reading. He noted that the prophets had foretold that when the Messiah would come, rivers of wine would flow. Wine, he explained, gladdens the heart. God gives us wine because we gladden his heart. But, the wine was really the deeper element of the Blood of Jesus Christ that would be flowing. He added that the bridal couple is virtually non-existent in the Gospel reading because Jesus is the true marriage, the union between God and man. This is what Isaiah was referring to when he compares the Lord’s joy with that of a bridegroom with his bride. Weddings are a cause for joy and he was using that analogy to tell Ancient Israel that the true Bridegroom was coming, and, when He comes, there will be a celebration. Remember, Jesus made a lot of wine, several hundred gallons to be exact, so there was a lot of joy at that wedding.

He also added that the Blessed Mother, in the previous reading, knew when her Son’s time had come, and, it was not when He was 12 years old. Now that he was a grown man, she took it upon herself to urge him to get moving on His ministry.

This is what I have used:

Entrance: Songs of Thankfulness and Praise
Offertory: Love’s Divine All Love’s Excelling
Communion: Draw Near and Take the Body of Your Lord
Recessional: God Is My Great Desire

Songs of Thankfulness and Praise is a great bridge because it directly mentions the Gospel. “And at Cana wedding guest” is in verse 2.

Too bad women can’t be ordained as Priests. You would be amazing, Benedictgal!

2nd Sunday in OT
O bless the Lord
Today a Savior is born
Shepherd of Souls
Pan de Vida and When we eat this bread (mentions bridegroom/bride)
Companions on the journey

 

[hosea]

2nd Sunday in OT
O bless the Lord
Today a Savior is born
Shepherd of Souls
Pan de Vida and When we eat this bread (mentions bridegroom/bride)
Companions on the journey

A change:
Precious Lord (words adapted to honor Martin Luther King’s “I have a dream” speach) for prep.

“I have dreamed a great dream; that Thy Love shall rule our land.
Precious Lord, Precious Lord, take my hand.
Precious Lord, take my hand. Take Thy child unto Thee;
With my dream of a world that is free.
For that day when all flesh joins the Glory Thou hast planned;
Precious Lord, Precious Lord take my hand.”

Peace,
h

 

[CatholicZ09]

pnewton, I think anything in a hymn that include praise to God would suffice for this week. For instance “Praise to the Lord” and “Holy God, We Praise Thy Name” are perfect picks. Another few I can think of is “All People That On Earth Do Dwell”, “What Is This Place”, “Joyful, Joyful, We Adore Thee”, “O Bless The Lord, My Soul”, “Now Thank We All Our God” etc…anything like that is perfect for this week. Most weeks in Ordinary Time are like that.

 

[agp2176]

This week at jolly old St Nick’s:

Entrance: Open Wide the Doors to Christ
Offertory: The Summons
Communion: Where Charity and Love Prevail
Recessional: Songs of Thankfulness and Praise

The reasoning behind these is that we are now at the beginning of Christ’s public ministry as with the miracle at the wedding at Cana. Therefore, we are asked to open our doors to let him in, then follow him knowing that where there is love God is found. As we depart Mass, we give thanks for the journey and remember the events at the start of the journey, Jesus’ baptism ,the wedding at Cana etc.

With God’s grace, I will sing His praises!

God bless

Tony

 

[hosea]

This week at jolly old St Nick’s:

Entrance: Open Wide the Doors to Christ
Offertory: The Summons
Communion: Where Charity and Love Prevail
Recessional: Songs of Thankfulness and Praise

The reasoning behind these is that we are now at the beginning of Christ’s public ministry as with the miracle at the wedding at Cana. Therefore, we are asked to open our doors to let him in, then follow him knowing that where there is love God is found. As we depart Mass, we give thanks for the journey and remember the events at the start of the journey, Jesus’ baptism ,the wedding at Cana etc.

With God’s grace, I will sing His praises!

God bless

Tony

Great songs. The Summons was one of our favorites from Gather.
Nice job.

 

[CatholicZ09]

Went to Mass Saturday Night. These were the songs:

Sunday, January 17th, 2010 - 2nd Sunday in Ordinary Time - Year C

Processional Hymn: #310 Table of Plenty
Preparation of the Gifts: #321 Song of the Body of Christ
Communion Hymn: #332 God’s Holy Gifts
Recessional Hymn: #638 Rain Down

 

[CatholicZ09]

This is what I have planned for next Sunday:

Sunday, January 24th, 2010 - Third Sunday in Ordinary Time - Year C

Processional Hymn: #413 The Church’s One Foundation
Preparation of the Gifts: #588 In the Land there is a Hunger
Communion Hymn: #534 Age to Age
Recessional Hymn: #412 Church of God, Elect and Glorious

 

[pnewton]

Last weekend:

Holy God We Praise Thy Name
Table Song
We Come to Your Feast
Lord of All Hopefulness
City of God.

 

[moreorless]

Plan for Third Sunday in Ordinary Time

Entrance Antiphon: “Sing to the Lord a new song,” antiphon from the Roman Missal, setting by Richard Rice from Simple Choral Gradual

Kyrie: Community Mass, by Richard Proulx

Gloria: People’s Mass

Responsorial Psalm: “Your words, Lord, are Spirit and life,” plainsong mode v, setting by Aristotle A. Esguerra

Gospel Acclamation: Alleluia, Ordinary Time Mass I, from Graduale Simplex, plainsong mode viii, verse “The Lord sent me to bring glad tidings to the poor, and to proclaim liberty to captives” set to office psalm tone

Offertory: “The right hand of the Lord,” plainsong mode ii, from The American Gradual

Sanctus: Community Mass

Mysterium Fidei: Community Mass

Per ipsum/Amen: Community Mass

Agnus Dei: Mass XI, Orbis Factor, Latin

Communion: “Comedite Pinguia,” plainsong mode viii, from Graduale Romanum, verses adapted by Richard Rice, Latin

Recessional Hymn: Haven’t decided yet.

I need to choose a recessional hymn. I am moving away from the four hymn sandwich as best I can, and I am pleased that this week, the only hymn during the Mass will be the recessional. From the reading I have done of the GIRM and Sacrosanctum Concilium, the recessional really seems to be the only place during the Mass where a hymn is the most appropriate choice. Not to say that hymns are not appropriate during other liturgical actions of the Mass, just that other choices are more appropriate. It is amazing how when you start using the music that the Church intends, instead of trying to jam hymns into the theme of the liturgy, the Mass begins to plan itself.

 

[benedictgal]

Plan for Third Sunday in Ordinary Time

Entrance Antiphon: “Sing to the Lord a new song,” antiphon from the Roman Missal, setting by Richard Rice from Simple Choral Gradual

Kyrie: Community Mass, by Richard Proulx

Gloria: People’s Mass

Responsorial Psalm: “Your words, Lord, are Spirit and life,” plainsong mode v, setting by Aristotle A. Esguerra

Gospel Acclamation: Alleluia, Ordinary Time Mass I, from Graduale Simplex, plainsong mode viii, verse “The Lord sent me to bring glad tidings to the poor, and to proclaim liberty to captives” set to office psalm tone

Offertory: “The right hand of the Lord,” plainsong mode ii, from The American Gradual

Sanctus: Community Mass

Mysterium Fidei: Community Mass

Per ipsum/Amen: Community Mass

Agnus Dei: Mass XI, Orbis Factor, Latin

Communion: “Comedite Pinguia,” plainsong mode viii, from Graduale Romanum, verses adapted by Richard Rice, Latin

Recessional Hymn: Haven’t decided yet.

I need to choose a recessional hymn. I am moving away from the four hymn sandwich as best I can, and I am pleased that this week, the only hymn during the Mass will be the recessional. From the reading I have done of the GIRM and Sacrosanctum Concilium, the recessional really seems to be the only place during the Mass where a hymn is the most appropriate choice. Not to say that hymns are not appropriate during other liturgical actions of the Mass, just that other choices are more appropriate. It is amazing how when you start using the music that the Church intends, instead of trying to jam hymns into the theme of the liturgy, the Mass begins to plan itself.

I commend you for using the antiphons. A priest friend of mine and I were lamenting about how little they are used these days and how publishing houses should include them in their repertoire.

You could, perhaps, use “God We Praise You” as the recessional, one of the two paraphrased versions of the Te Deum. Other options include “Praise God from whom all blessings flow” or “Sing Praise to our Creator.”

 

[moreorless]

I commend you for using the antiphons. A priest friend of mine and I were lamenting about how little they are used these days and how publishing houses should include them in their repertoire.

You could, perhaps, use “God We Praise You” as the recessional, one of the two paraphrased versions of the Te Deum. Other options include “Praise God from whom all blessings flow” or “Sing Praise to our Creator.”

I am fortunate to have a supportive pastor. The music at our parish runs the gambit, from the frightening guitar strumming the insipid songs of Haugen and Landry to our choir, which typically sticks to the hymn sandwich but at least uses devout traditional hymns. In addition to doing an occasional Mass on my own, I am the regular organist for the choir.

I started a couple of months ago by replacing the communion hymn with the proper communion antiphon, sometimes in Latin, sometimes in English. After a couple months of that, Father explained at a Mass that that Latin was the universal language of the Church, and that the Church had such a thing as proper antiphons, in response to “questions” (I wonder if they were complaints – no one has complained to me directly) about why we were doing Latin antiphons instead of hymns at communion.

Now I am gradually introducing other antiphons – generally in English. Latin is the goal, but it may take time, years even, to get there.

 

[hosea]

I am fortunate to have a supportive pastor. The music at our parish runs the gambit, from the frightening guitar strumming the insipid songs of Haugen and Landry to our choir, which typically sticks to the hymn sandwich but at least uses devout traditional hymns. In addition to doing an occasional Mass on my own, I am the regular organist for the choir.

I started a couple of months ago by replacing the communion hymn with the proper communion antiphon, sometimes in Latin, sometimes in English. After a couple months of that, Father explained at a Mass that that Latin was the universal language of the Church, and that the Church had such a thing as proper antiphons, in response to “questions” (I wonder if they were complaints – no one has complained to me directly) about why we were doing Latin antiphons instead of hymns at communion.

Now I am gradually introducing other antiphons – generally in English. Latin is the goal, but it may take time, years even, to get there.

Do the people have the music for the Antiphons? Do you do the same one each week? A liturgist friend of mine once told me that if the Communion song was familiar enough to them and they sang as they moved thru the lines for the Eucharist that would suffice as an antiphon. Probably a bit of a cheat but that’s sort of what we do. And I do see people singing as they process to the Body and Blood. Our Parrish enjoys the music and I have not heard from any Clergy that we should use antiphons. It seems, for now, that it is a matter of taste for each parrish. I love sandwiches.

 

[moreorless]

Do the people have the music for the Antiphons? Do you do the same one each week? A liturgist friend of mine once told me that if the Communion song was familiar enough to them and they sang as they moved thru the lines for the Eucharist that would suffice as an antiphon. Probably a bit of a cheat but that’s sort of what we do. And I do see people singing as they process to the Body and Blood. Our Parrish enjoys the music and I have not heard from any Clergy that we should use antiphons. It seems, for now, that it is a matter of taste for each parrish. I love sandwiches.

No, the people do not have music for the antiphons. I do not sing the same ones each week, I sing the proper antiphons, either from Graduale Romanum, or, when I want to do one in English, from the American Gradual. If you were doing antiphons from the Graduale Simplex (or its English translation, By Flowing Waters), you could conceivably do the same ones each week, as there are, I believe, five options for ordinary time.

A communion song that the people know may suffice as a cheat antiphon, but it is certainly not the proper antiphon, which is the first option from the GIRM.

I think that whether people enjoy singing certain songs, or what a person’s individual taste in music is, is quite beside the point. There is some music that is appropriate to liturgical action, and some that is not. Period. The propers of the Mass are actually part of the liturgy, while “songs” or hymns provide mere accompaniment. This article expresses it much more eloquently than I can.

 

[hosea]

3rd Sunday in OT:
God is Love (tune: Lord, You give the great comission)
Resp: Lord, You have the words (Gather)
Prep: You have called us (Ferrell)
communion: Jesus, the Bread of life and Age to age
Exit: They’ll know we are Christians

peace,
h

 

[hosea]

No, the people do not have music for the antiphons. I do not sing the same ones each week, I sing the proper antiphons, either from Graduale Romanum, or, when I want to do one in English, from the American Gradual. If you were doing antiphons from the Graduale Simplex (or its English translation, By Flowing Waters), you could conceivably do the same ones each week, as there are, I believe, five options for ordinary time.

A communion song that the people know may suffice as a cheat antiphon, but it is certainly not the proper antiphon, which is the first option from the GIRM.

I think that whether people enjoy singing certain songs, or what a person’s individual taste in music is, is quite beside the point. There is some music that is appropriate to liturgical action, and some that is not. Period. The propers of the Mass are actually part of the liturgy, while “songs” or hymns provide mere accompaniment. This article expresses it much more eloquently than I can.

I watch the televised Mass from the Cathedral sometimes on Sunday before we leave for our noon mass. They mix it up quite a bit with antiphons and the OCP songs. Often the camera will pan the congregation during Communion and I don’t see anyone singing if it is a Latin antiphon. Perhaps we contemporary musicians have missed the message; that the music should move the faithful to reflect and not to engage in singing. I don’t mean for this to sound sarcastic. I’ve been playing my guitar for the Catholic church for over 35 years. It is my joy to lead the faithful in song. I don’t know if they will follow if I use Latin antiphons.
Peace,
h

 

[pnewton]

I think that whether people enjoy singing certain songs, or what a person’s individual taste in music is, is quite beside the point. There is some music that is appropriate to liturgical action, and some that is not. Period…

I would like to give a little bit of a history of this thread. It was closed once for dissension and then re-opened because it is a valuable tool, like your description of the way you use antiphons is helpful. However, this is not the place to insult the choices of others, debate guitars or press musical agenda. All that can be done at CAF, if done charitlable by opening a thread on whatever subject you want. I would really like to keep this thread open, as I use it a lot.

Let us debate elsewhere and just keep this thread as a reference among musicians.

 

[moreorless]

I would like to give a little bit of a history of this thread. It was closed once for dissension and then re-opened because it is a valuable tool, like your description of the way you use antiphons is helpful. However, this is not the place to insult the choices of others, debate guitars or press musical agenda. All that can be done at CAF, if done charitlable by opening a thread on whatever subject you want. I would really like to keep this thread open, as I use it a lot.

Let us debate elsewhere and just keep this thread as a reference among musicians.

You’re right, and re-reading my post I realize I did not sound entirely charitable. I do feel passionately about this issue, and sometimes things do not come across in print the way I would have a dialogue with someone in person. My apologies.