Music leaders, show us your song list - NEW!!

[benedictgal]

Although I enjoy chants from time to time, I much prefer music with a full melody throughout.

I have one book (Worship III) so I know which one you are talking about

However, the psalm should be kept simple. It should not be complicated. The problem with Marty Haugen is that since he is not Catholic, I do not think that he quite understands the mechanics of genuine Sacred Music. His Mass of Creation takes liberties with the text, specifically his version of the Agnus Dei.

Now, in fairness, at my previous parish in Austin, our music director was a non-Catholic. However, he took the time to learn whart Sacred Music entails (how the Church sees it). He wrote psalm and Mass settings that were in line with the tenents of real Sacred Music and he did not take liberties with the text. His pieces were beautiful and singable. I do not know if he eventually converted, but, he really made a solid effort at keeping the music Sacred and traditional while he was there.

 

[pianomany2k]

I respectfully disagree. Most of Haugen’s music is easily singable. That is why the Mass of Creation is the most well-known and used. It is a fairly simple melody, and the range isn’t too high.

As far as liberties are concerned, I think most composers do their own adaptations.

 

[benedictgal]

I respectfully disagree. Most of Haugen’s music is easily singable. That is why the Mass of Creation is the most well-known and used. It is a fairly simple melody, and the range isn’t too high.

As far as liberties are concerned, I think most composers do their own adaptations.

Adaptations and paraphrases of the officla texts of the Mass are prohibited by both the Constitution on Sacred Liturgy, Redemptionis Sacramentum and Liturgiam Authenticam. The music must fit the text, not the other way around. This is what the CDWDS explained to me when I called them about some serious issues with the OCP English and Spanish settings. In fact, when the new translations of the Mass were released (the Ordinary), the CDWDS made it quite clear to the composers that they were not to fool with the texts. That is why Haugen, Peter Kolar, Bob Hurd and Bernadette Ferrell have questionable settings.

 

[pnewton]

getting back to the original thread…

Palm Sunday:

All Glory Laud And Honor
Only This I Want
Take And Eat
Lift High The Cross

I just notice you are a fairly new poster here. Welcome and please keep the lists coming.

 

[benedictgal]

Here is what I have used for Holy Thursday:

Entrance: At That First Eucharist or Gift of Finest Wheat
Washing of the Feet: Where Charity and Love Prevail
Offertory: Panis Angelicus or Father, We Thank Thee Who Has Planted
Communion: Donde Hay Caridad y Amor
I Received the Living God
Procession of the Blessed Sacrament: Pangia Lingua (Latin, English, Spanish)

I am dreading Holy Thursday at my parish because there is a strong possibility that Table of Plenty will be used. It is the worst song for Holy Thursday (let along, Holy Communion) because it celebrates the community and severely waters down the Sacred Mystery of the Holy Eucharist.

 

[pnewton]

Here is what I have used for Holy Thursday:

I am looking forward to our Holy Thursday. It will be the first parish-wide, Latin Mass. It has been a lot of work learning all the parts, but I think we are ready and set to go. Basically, if Latin can be used, it is being used. We did not have time our first shot at this to incorporate only Latin hymns, but maybe next year…

 

[CatholicZ09]

Here is what I have used for Holy Thursday:

Entrance: At That First Eucharist or Gift of Finest Wheat
Washing of the Feet: Where Charity and Love Prevail
Offertory: Panis Angelicus or Father, We Thank Thee Who Has Planted
Communion: Donde Hay Caridad y Amor
I Received the Living God
Procession of the Blessed Sacrament: Pangia Lingua (Latin, English, Spanish)

I am dreading Holy Thursday at my parish because there is a strong possibility that Table of Plenty will be used. It is the worst song for Holy Thursday (let along, Holy Communion) because it celebrates the community and severely waters down the Sacred Mystery of the Holy Eucharist.

Ew…“Table of Plenty” on Holy Thursday? At least “Glory in the Cross” tells a bit of what we are about to enter…the Paschal Mystery. Even though I know you might not like it, benedictgal.

 

[pianomany2k]

Holy Thursday:

Gathering:At That First Eucharist
Washing of Feet: Jesu, Jesu
Presentation: We Come To Your Feast
Communion: Now At This Banquet
Transfer of Blessed Sacrament: Pange Lingua

 

[CatholicZ09]

Went to Stations of the Cross tonight and saw the song list for Sunday.

Sunday, March 28th, 2010 - Palm Sunday of the Lord’s Passion - Year C

Processional Hymn: #143 All Glory, Laud, and Honor
Preparation of the Gifts: #155 O Sacred Head, Surrounded
Communion Hymn: #520 Now We Remain
Recessional Hymn: #405 Jesus, Remember Me

 

[CatholicZ09]

I am going with

The King of Glory (followed by Crown Him With Many Crowns, To Jesus Christ Our Sovereign King, when we all process in and need the time.

I can remember on Palm Sunday two years ago when they did a procession at the late morning Mass and we ended up sing through “All Glory, Laud and Honor” 3 times.

 

[pianomany2k]

I can remember on Palm Sunday two years ago when they did a procession at the late morning Mass and we ended up sing through “All Glory, Laud and Honor” 3 times.

If I can see ahead of time that it’ll take longer than the song is, I could play anything from a short to long interlude between versus. I’ve done it a few times with hymns. Most notably, “Baptized In Water”

 

[CatholicZ09]

If I can see ahead of time that it’ll take longer than the song is, I could play anything from a short to long interlude between versus. I’ve done it a few times with hymns. Most notably, “Baptized In Water”

That could’ve been the issue. I think the choir organist didn’t remember to play little interludes between the verses.

But…I mean I like “All Glory, Laud, and Honor”, but…3 times!!

 

[CatholicZ09]

On the other hand, I am looking forward to singing it tomorrow (going to Saturday night Mass). It’s one of those hymns you only hear like once a year.

 

[benedictgal]

On the other hand, I am looking forward to singing it tomorrow (going to Saturday night Mass). It’s one of those hymns you only hear like once a year.

Of course, if you sing By All Your Saints Still Striving, it’s the same melody.

I just found out that my pastor wants the choir to sing, “Mary, Did You Know” on Good Friday. :crying::bigyikes::banghead: Holy Week at my parish is going to be a sad, sad experience.

 

[pianomany2k]

The first time I did a semi-short hymn for the opening procession, I hadn’t learned to time things properly with interludes, and that particular day had a long procession. Went through the opening hymn about three times. I learned a few things after that.

 

[pianomany2k]

I just found out that my pastor wants the choir to sing, “Mary, Did You Know” on Good Friday. :crying::bigyikes::banghead: Holy Week at my parish is going to be a sad, sad experience.

“Mary Did You Know” on Good Friday?! That’s interesting…

 

[benedictgal]

“Mary Did You Know” on Good Friday?! That’s interesting…

I think I am going to take a tranquilizer before I go to Good Friday. At least, “Table of Plenty” has folded. I suggested (with a lot of reluctance), “We Should Glory in the Cross of Christ” and the music director agreed to the change.

Don’t even get me started on “Mary Did You Know”. It is a bad song and there have been several threads on why. Rather than derail a great thread, I would suggest that you look up the subject and read what has been written. I suggested to the music director that if our pastor wants a Marian hymn, go with Stabat Mater. The music director is going to muster enough courage to go into the lion’s den and see if the music can be changed.

 

[pianomany2k]

I suggested to the music director that if our pastor wants a Marian hymn, go with Stabat Mater. The music director is going to muster enough courage to go into the lion’s den and see if the music can be changed.

I’ve heard Stabat Mater (well, the tune anyway) more times than I care to every year on Stations of the Cross. Is there any Marian hymn that could be used on Good Friday??

I was given the go to print up a bunch of Worship Aids for the entire Triduum. My Assoc. Pastor better not change anything else on that list of songs. The ONE person we had that was coming into the church on Saturday is going to a different church. I was told that two days after printing 250 copies. So now there are four or five pages in the Aid that have to be skipped. I could’ve saved on so much paper…

As for Good Friday (now that we are on the subject), this is what I have planned.

Good Friday:

Psalm 31 - Father, Into Your Hands (Guimont)
Veneration - Instrumental (O Sacred Surrounded, Were You There, Now We Remain, etc)
Communion - Only This I Want

 

[pnewton]

On the English side of Good Friday we will sing

Were You There
Jesus Remember Me
Near the Cross

 

[CatholicZ09]

My music director used the Stabat Mater for the Veneration last year. It was really beautiful.

I think I might ask my music director to use “By All the Saints Still Striving” for All Saint’s Day this coming November because it was just added in the Breaking Bread Hymnal this year. I don’t think he would need to teach the hymn to the congregation because they probably already know the tune.