Muslim bigotry

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I do agree. But I do also think he makes very valid points. Until he takes a left turn with those odd and bizarre teachings he supposedly believes. It’s going good, it’s going good and than comes the ‘the Honorable Elijah Muhammad said to us…’ Yeahhhh, no. Or when he starts speaking about Family Values which are so important… it’s going good, it’s going good, than he turns left again with some racist remarks. 🤷
 
crazzeto said:
If your referring to Mark, looking at his posts I wager he’s basically just out to shut down the thread.
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Thanks for the reasoning,sorry if i spoke out of tern,but that jharek man,was to say the least annoying, and flippen evasive,if not slightly blind.

my views,are not everyones but but nit picking is very childish indeed,at least hes not gonna acknowledge my post`s anymore.

Also i wasnt/am not trying to shut down the thread,it would of been helpful to have a muslim view,thats all.

sorry once again also to the postman above you.

GOD BLESS!!
 
mark_avery said:
Thanks for the reasoning,sorry if i spoke out of tern,but that jharek man,was to say the least annoying, and flippen evasive,if not slightly blind.

my views,are not everyones but but nit picking is very childish indeed,at least hes not gonna acknowledge my post`s anymore.

Also i wasnt/am not trying to shut down the thread,it would of been helpful to have a muslim view,thats all.

sorry once again also to the postman above you.

GOD BLESS!!
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I hear you Mark.

I think that as Americans when speaking to our brothers from England? You have to consider to their culture and mannerism also. So many things come into play.😉

As far as this thread I don’t have another avenue to explore. You know what I found interesting. This Mosque, the Time Square Bomber attended. You familiar with this one?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_Al-Hijrah

This one was Islamic right? Am I wrong here also? Now its becoming confusing:confused:

Here’s the thing, being full of Christain Love and Charity I would like to attend one these Mosques. But I must look a little further into it. I don’t want to attend the wrong one and get in trouble. Its a concern for me since the Time Square Bomber lived 5-minutes from me. And also used the Mosques around Bpt and New Haven? Geez what a dilemma:shrug:

God Bless, GT
 
Bwtby said:
Huh?
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I’m pretty much all done with Louis and the NOI. His church and where it is. and what it use to be. That really has nothing to do with anything I’m talking about. But I hear you.

Now as far as the comment about NOI being Christians? They most certainly are welcome to come over and attend. But I don’t think we’ll be seeing that happen anytime soon. What will happen, is what has happened, and continues to happen which “is” my point. They will continue to filter in the Mosques of Islam. Which I’m sure is no issue for you or Islam right? They are welcome to worship there also right? Or are they just considered as you said “Atheists and Christians” who attend a Greek Orthodox Church? Thats doesn’t sound right to me. But I don’t know I’ll leave that for those who are Orthodox to sort out. I’m Catholic raised.

What do you actually think about Mohammad? Did he actually move a mountain?

God Bless, Gary.
 
Mark I wasn’t asking “you” in particular about the second part of the above post.

I’m sorry if I became confusing there. Really only the initial paragraph was intended for you. The rest was for anyone who actually knows. Just in “general”. Sorry about that.

Much Love,

God Bless, GT
 
GaryTaylor said:
I hear you Mark.

I think that as Americans when speaking to our brothers from England? You have to consider to their culture and mannerism also. So many things come into play.😉

As far as this thread I don’t have another avenue to explore. You know what I found interesting. This Mosque, the Time Square Bomber attended. You familiar with this one?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dar_Al-Hijrah

This one was Islamic right? Am I wrong here also? Now its becoming confusing:confused:

Here’s the thing, being full of Christain Love and Charity I would like to attend one these Mosques. But I must look a little further into it. I don’t want to attend the wrong one and get in trouble. Its a concern for me since the Time Square Bomber lived 5-minutes from me. And also used the Mosques around Bpt and New Haven? Geez what a dilemma:shrug:

God Bless, GT
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Im not familiar with the times square bomber issue,Gary! Never mind im sure there will be more such situations unfortunately!
I think you understood my previous posts,or at least they original one. We also have know room or jobs here for asylum seekers anymore,you should see some of the places the government stick us,and the places they asylum seeker`s get,its awful!!

Take Care!
 
mark_avery said:
Im not familiar with the times square bomber issue,Gary! Never mind im sure there will be more such situations unfortunately!
I think you understood my previous posts,or at least they original one. We also have know room or jobs here for asylum seekers anymore,you should see some of the places the government stick us,and the places they asylum seeker`s get,its awful!!

Take Care!
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Crossed threads with you, as I mentioned, only that initial paragraph was for you. I’m sorry about that again. I re-read and thought exactly as you did, that it was intended for you. Only the first paragraph was, my fault

So Sorry.

God Bless, GT
 
I know, actually I wanted to mention you and mark. I think there’s just a culture aspect involved with Americans and English. Which I often believe is wrongly interpreted. I believe Americans are a bit more emotional in public expression where as the English a bit less so and more proper in general.

Actually I was sticking up for you guys. 👍

God Bless. Gary
 
Tolerance and love for Islam, death to Christianity. How sad.

The scholar’s reaction to this says a lot about the content of his character. In fact, it says a lot about Mohammedanism in general, given the fact that few Mohammedans seem to be contesting what he said.

Can you believe what would happen if the Pope said violence against the Mohammedans was alright and refused to condemn it? Mohammedans across the world (along with their bleeding heart liberal allies) would be scoffing at the Pope, talking about how intolerant he is, and how much of a bigot he is. They would then proceed to burn Bibles, chant ‘death to The West!’ and bomb parishes, as usual, and then preach about how loving Islam is in relation to Christianity (or Catholicism, if you want to be specific).

Wake up. Once the “religion of peace” has been given room to spread like a conflagration, you will begin to see the corollary effects of ignoring what is actually written in the Qur’an, the book of hatred.

Some may call me hostile, intolerant, or bigoted or any other slew of insults/epithets. But when I stop seeing the indiscriminate killings of those who are not Mohammedans and the marginalization of non-Mohammedans and their concerns in Mohammedan countries, perhaps then will I change my mind about “Islam”.

Note: Before people start jumping at me, trying to gouge my eyes out, when I say “they” in reference to the Mohammedans, I am not talking about all of them. I am talking about the many that have hypocritical tendencies in regards to Christianity. I am talking about those who speak of love and tolerance and turning a blind eye in Islam, but in their mosques they speak Arabic and preach a gospel of violence, hatred and unadulterated bigotry towards non-Mohammedans.
 
As Seinfeld would say “not that there’s anything wrong with that!” 😛
 
This thread has gone on 13 pages. Am I pretty much right when I sum it all up this way?

Islam, if it stays like all other religions in America, which is peaceful and personal and private, is something most posters (myself included) have no problem with. If it morphs into a situation saying “we want Sharia laws and our own country within a country in which we govern ourselfs, the Constitution be damned” then Houston, we have a problem…

We don’t care if people are Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, or Christian as long as said religions stay personal religions that don’t push their agendas on everyone else…

That’s my take anyway. I think it satisfies both liberal and conservative on this.

I am not thrilled to see conservatives like Peter King holding hearings about American Muslims. It stinks of McCarthyism and paranoia. It targets one religious group, most of whom are good, peaceful, quiet people. I hate scapegoating. It reminds me of Nazi propoganda.

But we also must be vigilent with intelligence agencies like NSA and FBI and keep an eye on RADICAL muslim groups whom we know are sponsoring terrorist activities or whom we know are preaching hardened anti-America sentiments.

I think it’s a balancing act…a happy medium? :)🤷
 
I honestly have a problem with Sharia in any way, shape or form. Communities, IMO, shouldn’t have their own little mini country within a country polity which is what Sharia amounts to. And the end result with Muslims, in how they view Sharia as sacred and intrinsic to their religious life and salvation, will take it OVER civil law and it will degenerate into an almost mafioso scenario wherein nobody will contact the civil authorities if a ruling has come from local imams or other leadership regarding Sharia. Sharia will trump the Constitution for the hardcores…😦
 
Irish Catholics melted into the fabric of an already-Christian society in America and the secular world in Ireland was not miles away from the American civil structure. But when you come from rural Iran or from Pakistan and you’re used to a madrasa mindset and Sharia law complete with honor killings because your sister was violated, I think, as you said, that is lightyears from Irish immigrants sticking together.

Heck, look at San Francisco Chinatown. They have their own communities completely. I go there at least once a year. And yes, they have some “protection” issues with chinese gangs pushing for protection money from businesses, etc. but overall the civil authorities work well with them and they dont need any time of Chinese mini nation within a larger American one.

I’m not for Sharia at all. That’s just my :twocents: (or should I use Euros?) 😛
 
gurneyhalleck1 said:
This thread has gone on 13 pages. Am I pretty much right when I sum it all up this way?

Islam, if it stays like all other religions in America, which is peaceful and personal and private, is something most posters (myself included) have no problem with. If it morphs into a situation saying “we want Sharia laws and our own country within a country in which we govern ourselfs, the Constitution be damned” then Houston, we have a problem…

We don’t care if people are Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, or Christian as long as said religions stay personal religions that don’t push their agendas on everyone else…

That’s my take anyway. I think it satisfies both liberal and conservative on this.

I am not thrilled to see conservatives like Peter King holding hearings about American Muslims. It stinks of McCarthyism and paranoia. It targets one religious group, most of whom are good, peaceful, quiet people. I hate scapegoating. It reminds me of Nazi propoganda.

But we also must be vigilent with intelligence agencies like NSA and FBI and keep an eye on RADICAL muslim groups whom we know are sponsoring terrorist activities or whom we know are preaching hardened anti-America sentiments.

I think it’s a balancing act…a happy medium? :)🤷
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Really thats basically it.

Our problems here are slightly different through with the fine leadership of Louis and the Kill all Whiteys theory. :eek:

Least England was smart enough to catch it quick. We just let it go for decades, and poison those who already had anger issues, so turning to islam might have taken them off drugs and correct the dysfunctional family issue in the ghetto. But the anger didn’t go anywhere. Thats for sure.

Sad because there “were” all kinds of programs here, but with this constant war and economy, all of them are gone. So its warehousing with more corrupt teaching?🤷

Then obviously we have radical Islam sneaking in here and there to compound the issue.

Really, I know I get confrontative and direct and assertive, but the pius attitude that the problems are outside of Good Islam, it just isn’t so. I honestly believe if we can help these people, see their own problems more clearly, then its better all the way around.

Its complex for sure. And you have to go through all the attutudes and denial and getting angry “first”. Then you get to honest conversation.

You know, I point a finger, they point a finger, we agrue, but at some point in fustration the walls fall down and honest communication starts. And these are thick walls, I’m here to tell ya.

God Bless, Gary
 
gurneyhalleck1 said:
This thread has gone on 13 pages. Am I pretty much right when I sum it all up this way?

Islam, if it stays like all other religions in America, which is peaceful and personal and private, is something most posters (myself included) have no problem with. If it morphs into a situation saying “we want Sharia laws and our own country within a country in which we govern ourselfs, the Constitution be damned” then Houston, we have a problem…

We don’t care if people are Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, or Christian as long as said religions stay personal religions that don’t push their agendas on everyone else…

That’s my take anyway. I think it satisfies both liberal and conservative on this.

I am not thrilled to see conservatives like Peter King holding hearings about American Muslims. It stinks of McCarthyism and paranoia. It targets one religious group, most of whom are good, peaceful, quiet people. I hate scapegoating. It reminds me of Nazi propoganda.

But we also must be vigilent with intelligence agencies like NSA and FBI and keep an eye on RADICAL muslim groups whom we know are sponsoring terrorist activities or whom we know are preaching hardened anti-America sentiments.

I think it’s a balancing act…a happy medium? :)🤷
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What agenda is Islam in America pushing? LOL

The only agendas being pushed on everybody else are the homosexuals and anything the Fox network propagates… a network with hosts who are supposed ‘Catholics’ with ‘Christian values’ spreading lies and hate about another religion. :rolleyes:
 
Bwtby said:
What agenda is Islam in America pushing? LOL

The only agendas being pushed on everybody else are the homosexuals and anything the Fox network propagates… a network with hosts who are supposed ‘Catholics’ with ‘Christian values’ spreading lies and hate about another religion. :rolleyes:
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The Homesexuals 🙂 Yup thats over the edge for sure. Catholics are dead set against it. But your right in other areas. California has to be slowed down also. Man they are insistant on pushing that abomonation through.

Whats the actual view with islam on abortion? I’ve heard varied things here also.
 
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