Muslim converts to Christianity

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

how many Christians read Aramic Bible ? If the original bible is available , dont u think Christians should read the original copy as well ?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

Salaam/peace

, I have seen a girl who memorized a song in Farsi who couldn’t speak it. .

u want to say , a song has more than 6 thousands lines ?

 

[KenEOTE]

Salaam/peace

how many Christians read Aramic Bible ? If the original bible is available , dont u think Christians should read the original copy as well ?

Well the OT was written in Hebrew and the New Testament was written in Aramaic and Greek.

The translations we have in our own language so that it can be understood by all, are translated from the Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic.

In College I took a course where I had to red and translate the original language. The translations you buy at the store in your language are accurate. They take a lot of time in making sure of this.

The funny thing is about the Quran is that if you try to translate it into english it makes no sense at all. I have read a literal translation of the Quran and its is beyond crazy talk.

 

[KenEOTE]

Salaam/peace

u want to say , a song has more than 6 thousands lines ?

The point I am making is that just because something can me memorized does not mean it is divine. I do not know why you can not concede that point.

 

[scipio337]

So what is the final word on the punishment for apostacy on the Muslims of the board?

Death to sane male ones, per the hadiths and all major schools of Islamic jurisprudence?

What punishment should be meted out?

Enough arguing about who memorizes what. Who cares? Are we drawing an analogy between memorization and veracitity? Between the strength of a belief confiming its truth?

Argumentum ad logicam.

Let’s answer this question:

What is the final word on the punishment for apostacy on the Muslims of the board?

Death to sane male ones, per the hadiths and all major schools of Islamic jurisprudence?

What punishment should be meted out?

 

[KenEOTE]

Enough arguing about who memorizes what. Who cares? Are we drawing an analogy between memorization and veracitity? Between the strength of a belief confiming its truth?

Argumentum ad logicam.

Let’s answer this question:

What is the final word on the punishment for apostacy on the Muslims of the board?

Death to sane male ones, per the hadiths and all major schools of Islamic jurisprudence?

What punishment should be meted out?

I am agreeing with you It is Muslim Woman who keeps this weird idea that memorization = divinely inspired

 

[scipio337]

I am agreeing with you It is Muslim Woman who keeps this weird idea that memorization = divinely inspired

Here, here!

Lets stop talking about memorization altogether.

Let’s answer this question:

What is the final word on the punishment for apostacy on the Muslims of the board?

Death to sane male ones, per the hadiths and all major schools of Islamic jurisprudence?

What punishment should be meted out?

Please provide examples from the Qu’ran, Hadiths, Fiqh council or Ulema to support.

Thank you!

 

[scipio337]

Anyone???

 

[Angelos]

lol…you are talking about English translation . I am talking about holy Quran that was revealed in the Arabic language.

Original language & the translation is not the same & Muslims memorise the Quran----Not the translation .

LOL Please do not tell me that you do not know I am not talking about translations, but about the textual variations in the Koran text.

Quran revealed to the Prophet (p) in 23 years . whenever any verse revealed , Prophet (p) recited that to the companions & they memorised immediately. Angel Gabriel / Jibril (p) used to visit Prophet specially in Ramadan to recited the whole Quran to him .

we believe there is rewards from God for uttering each single letter of Quran . Also , it’s a must for us to recite few lines from Quran ( not the translation ) in our daily prayers.

So , memorisation played a great role to kept the Quran safe from corruption. Moreover , God Almighty is protector of His Last holy book .

My examples from the Koran prove that either Allah was not good at preserving the Koran from corruption or that Mohammad’s scribes suffered from short memory, and their recitation was not accurate.

 

[Angelos]

Salaam/peace

Are you jealous that we have our original holy book & u lost ? In which language Jesus (p) talked & got the revealition from God ? Pl. don’t say it was english.

Your scripture says that Jesus was sent to Israel, but the book given to Him was named Injeel: the Arabic transliteration of the Greek word “Evangelion”. Consequently, the Koran states that God gave a Greek scripture to Hebrews

 

[Booklover]

Anyone???

Hope this helps!

Vickie

 

[scipio337]

Hope this helps!

Vickie

Thank you, that does, but I would also like to hear what the Muslims on this board say. What’s more, your link will be dismissed as “anti Islam” (but not by me).

I’ve been looking through the thread for a direct answer, and I’m not finding it.

Thank you again for the link!

What is the final word on the punishment for apostacy on the Muslims of the board?

Death to sane male ones, per the hadiths and all major schools of Islamic jurisprudence?

What punishment should be meted out?

Please provide examples from the Qu’ran, Hadiths, Fiqh council or Ulema to support.

Thank you!

 

[planten]

Here, here!

Lets stop talking about memorization altogether.

Let’s answer this question:

What is the final word on the punishment for apostacy on the Muslims of the board?

Death to sane male ones, per the hadiths and all major schools of Islamic jurisprudence?

What punishment should be meted out?

Please provide examples from the Qu’ran, Hadiths, Fiqh council or Ulema to support.

Thank you!

There is no need to open that chapter. It would go off topic. Also, any punishment that the church will prescribe for the adulterers and fornicators will be acceptable to the Muslims. Let us have some news about the church facility about adultration that is going on on large scale amongst the christians now. .

 

[Booklover]

Thank you, that does, but I would also like to hear what the Muslims on this board say. What’s more, your link will be dismissed as “anti Islam” (but not by me).

I’ve been looking through the thread for a direct answer, and I’m not finding it.

Thank you again for the link!

Glad I could help!

Vickie

 

[planten]

Your scripture says that Jesus was sent to Israel, but the book given to Him was named Injeel: the Arabic transliteration of the Greek word “Evangelion”. Consequently, the Koran states that God gave a Greek scripture to Hebrews

Bible does not tell what language was used by Jesus. What language did Jesus speak? It is all forgotten. Perhaps the writers (authors) of the bible NT also did not know it.Otherwise they would have mentioned it some where.

 

[scipio337]

There is no need to open that chapter. It would go off topic. Also, any punishment that the church will prescribe for the adulterers and fornicators will be acceptable to the Muslims. Let us have some news about the church facility about adultration that is going on on large scale amongst the christians now. .

What does this mean? What “the church” are you referencing? WTH is “adultration”?? I’m familiar with the term in manufacturing substances, but have no idea what you mean.

Please, if you will, answer the questions. If you won’t please let us know why you won’t.

What is the final word on the punishment for apostacy on the Muslims of the board?

Death to sane male ones, per the hadiths and all major schools of Islamic jurisprudence?

What punishment should be meted out?

Please provide examples from the Qu’ran, Hadiths, Fiqh council or Ulema to support.

Thank you!

 

[Booklover]

There is no need to open that chapter. It would go off topic. Also, any punishment that the church will prescribe for the adulterers and fornicators will be acceptable to the Muslims. Let us have some news about the church facility about adultration that is going on on large scale amongst the christians now. .

No you won’t accept it because we do not flog or stone adulterers or fornicators! We repent of our sins, go to confession, and our sins are forgiven!

Vickie

 

[KenEOTE]

Bible does not tell what language was used by Jesus. What language did Jesus speak? It is all forgotten. Perhaps the writers (authors) of the bible NT also did not know it.Otherwise they would have mentioned it some where.

What is the relevance of knowing what language Jesus spoke? I know for one when he read the OT in the synagogues that he would have spoken Hebrew as it was written in Hebrew. They didn’t mention the language because it was not essential in knowing his teachings.

 

[scipio337]

Once again, with feeling:

What is the final word on the punishment for apostacy on the Muslims of the board?

Death to sane male ones, per the hadiths and all major schools of Islamic jurisprudence?

What punishment should be meted out?

Please provide examples from the Qu’ran, Hadiths, Fiqh council or Ulema to support.

Thank you!

 

[Angelos]

Bible does not tell what language was used by Jesus. What language did Jesus speak? It is all forgotten. Perhaps the writers (authors) of the bible NT also did not know it.Otherwise they would have mentioned it some where.

So you confirm that the Koran does not know what language Jesus spoke and that God gave Him a book in Greek while sending Him to Israel??