Muslims – Question about Janah

[F_Ferdous]

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Jinn are basically the Islamic equivalent of demons. Except, they are not fallen angels or evil spirits of man but rather a being separately created of pure fire. Lucifer, in Islamic lore, wasn’t an angel but a Jinn. Unlike demons, a jinn can be good or bad just like humans as we believe God doesn’t create anything purely evil. Angels are forces purely of good. They have no free will. They only live to serve God. Mankind and Jinn on the other hand have been created to worship God through choice. The Jinn were created first though. And Lucifer was among the most pious of them. So God promoted him to reign over the Angels and made him one with the Archangels in Heaven. It is also important to note here that before the Jinn there was another race of beings known as the B’n. And the good B’n had all died out during the creation of the Jinn and then the evil ones were left behind, preying on each other and devouring each other (think of the Leviathans from Supernatural). The Jinn and Angels were then commanded to destroy the evil B’n left behind. Lucifer was the general of that army of Jinn and Angels along with Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Azriel. After the war, Lucifer was promoted as mentioned above. It was during this time that God created Adam and crowned him as His greatest creation. This made Lucifer jealous. All in Heaven, including Lucifer who was now part of Heaven, was ordered to bow down to the image of Adam but Lucifer refused and was thus stripped of his Grace. He was then named Iblis - the One who causes Despair, and he was entitled Shaytan (Satan), the first of the Shayateen (Devils). Following him, many Jinn also became evil and they too became one of the Shayateen. But these are those who chose to do so. Many Jinn today are still good. And they have their own race that thrives in a dimension of their own within this world. Good ones do not interfere in our matters but the ones influenced by Satan do. They can make deals with people in exchange for their souls (this is where the concept of a genie fulfilling three of one’s wishes come from). The Jinn can also be of many species such as the Daeva (they use their supernatural powers to trick people into thinking they’re gods; all pagan gods are thought to be Daevas deceiving people at the command of Satan; they are very strong); Afrit (they can give you power and wealth in exchange for your soul); the Marid (they can give you knowledge in exchange for your soul: knowledge like the future or past of a certain person or what a person is doing right now, etc; we believe fortune-tellers and diviners use them and thus a Muslim is advised not to even go near such people); the Jain (they resemble dogs and work for the Afrit; think hellhounds); the Ghoul (these prey on dead bodies of people whose funeral rites have not been fulfilled properly by a priest; they consume them and can take the form of the corpse they have eaten); the Vetala (they possess people, torture their souls and drain their life-force at the command of Satan); the Sila (they are reptilian in appearance but can shed their skin to take the form of a human of their choosing; think Shapeshifters); the Kaboos or Al-Jathoom or Al-Khaaniq (they prey on their victims while they’re asleep, trying to strange them or sexually molest them; think Incubus/Succubus) and the Shiqq (these are unintelligent foot soldiers of the Afrit who look like charred corpses akin to hellspawns). Of course, only the Jinn who are of the Shayateen use their powers as described above. We don’t know how the good ones of the above mentioned species use their abilities. Also, not only the Jinn but a human can also become of the Shayateen through certain methods that grant them the skills of black magic, witchcraft and sorcery.

 

[F_Ferdous]

That’s very interesting, I didn’t know that either. Can you answer my previous question please? Also, do you have any scripture to back up your statement here?

Yes, yes. Sorry, I had a fangasm there. Back to your question now, Islam believes that Judeo-Christian theologies have changed and been manipulated over time. That’s the reason for Islam. Thomas Aquinas introduced the act between a man and a wife as sinful, only to be used solely for procreation. How then could that be part of heaven? This is just one addition of many to the scriptures. So we do not take from them what contradicts our religion, but only what coincides with Islamic beliefs.

As for scriptures to back up my statement, there are citations from the Hadith and Qur’an in this website:

islamawareness.net/Sex/ethics.html

 

[Steveabrous]

YAYY SUPERNATURAL FAN!! I’M A SUPERNATURAL FAN TOO!! I LOVE CASTIEL! DID YOU SEE THIS SEASON’S FINALE?! THE FALLING ANGELS! __

Jinn are basically the Islamic equivalent of demons. Except, they are not fallen angels or evil spirits of man but rather a being separately created of pure fire. Lucifer, in Islamic lore, wasn’t an angel but a Jinn. Unlike demons, a jinn can be good or bad just like humans as we believe God doesn’t create anything purely evil. Angels are forces purely of good. They have no free will. They only live to serve God. Mankind and Jinn on the other hand have been created to worship God through choice. The Jinn were created first though. And Lucifer was among the most pious of them. So God promoted him to reign over the Angels and made him one with the Archangels in Heaven. It is also important to note here that before the Jinn there was another race of beings known as the B’n. And the good B’n had all died out during the creation of the Jinn and they the evil ones were left behind, preying on each other and devouring each other (think of the Leviathans from Supernatural). The Jinn and Angels were then commanded to destroy the evil B’n left behind. Lucifer was the general of that army of Jinn and Angels along with Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Azriel. After the war, Lucifer was promoted as mentioned above. It was during this time that God created Adam and crowned him as his greatest creation. This made Lucifer jealous. All in Heaven, including Lucifer who was now part of Heaven, was ordered to bow down to the image of Adam but Lucifer refused and was thus stripped of his Grace. He was then named Iblis - the One who causes Despair, and he was entitled Shaytan (Satan), the first of the Shayateen (Devils). Following him, many Jinn also became evil and they too became one of the Shayateen. But these are those who chose to do so. Many Jinn today are still good. And they have their own race that thrives in a dimension of their own within this world. Good ones do not interfere in our matters but the ones influenced by Satan do. They can make deals with people in exchange for their souls (this is where the concept of a genie fulfilling three of one’s wishes come from). The Jinn can also be of many species such as the Daeva (they use their supernatural powers to trick people into thinking their gods; all pagan gods are thought to be Daevas deceiving people at the command of Satan; they are very strong); Afrit (they can give you power and wealth in exchange for your soul); the Marid (they can give you knowledge in exchange for your soul: knowledge like the future or past of a certain person or what a person is doing right now, etc; we believe fortune-tellers and diviners use them and thus a Muslim is advised not to even go near such people); the Jain (they resemble dogs and work for the Afrit; think hellhounds); the Ghoul (these prey on dead bodies of people whose funeral rites have not been fulfilled properly by a priest; they consume them and can take the form of the corpse they have eaten); the Vetala (they possess people, torture their souls and drain their life-force at the command of Satan); the Sila (they are reptilian in appearance but can shed their skin to take the form of a human of their choosing; think Shapeshifters); and the Shiqq (these are unintelligent foot soldiers of the Afrit who look like charred corpses akin to hellspawns). There are also Jinn who prey on humans for sexual pleasure like the Incubi and Succubi.

Yeah that’s going to be interesting about the Angels and Hell not being closed. What about Crowley being simi-good. Misha Collins has signed back on as a full cast member next season again YEAH!! His is my favorite.

I didn’t realize how much Supernatural took from Islam. Of course I noticed how much from Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

But the fall of Satan (refusing to bow down) is pretty much from Islam.

 

[F_Ferdous]

Yeah that’s going to be interesting about the Angels and Hell not being closed. What about Crowley being simi-good. Misha Collins has signed back on as a full cast member next season again YEAH!! His is my favorite.

I didn’t realize how much Supernatural took from Islam. Of course I noticed how much from Catholicism and Orthodoxy.

But the fall of Satan (refusing to bow down) is pretty much from Islam.

Supernatural has taken a lot from many religions. Which is why I love it so much! Oh yeah, I edited my passage above. I looked up the name of the species of Jinn that preys on humans sexually. They are known as Al-Kaboos or Al-Jathoom or Al-Khaaniq. I mentioned it on the edited quote. I also added in the fact that humans can also became one of the Shayateen in which case they are granted powers of sorcery. Of course, in return, when they die, they go to Hell.

 

[dronald]

islamawareness.net/Sex/ethics.html

I read through it but I can’t find where it’s speaking of Janna. Can you give me some quotes from the Qur’an or Hadith that explain what sex should be like as far as Heaven is concerned? I know that Heaven is much different than Earth in Islam, in that you have super human erections, have multiple beautiful beings to have sex with and you can now drink when you couldn’t drink on Earth. So how can one say that these passages speaking of sex on Earth apply in Heaven when the laws in Heaven have changed?

Yes, yes. Sorry, I had a fangasm there. Back to your question now, Islam believes that Judeo-Christian theologies have changed and been manipulated over time. That’s the reason for Islam. Thomas Aquinas introduced the act between a man and a wife as sinful, only to be used solely for procreation. How then could that be part of heaven? This is just one addition of many to the scriptures. So we do not take from them what contradicts our religion, but only what coincides with Islamic beliefs.

I don’t think Thomas Aquinas speaks of sex in Heaven if that’s what you are implying? Perhaps he does, I would have to have a Catholic address that but I highly doubt it. No where in Scripture does it mention sex in Heaven, why was this left out for so long in all Scripture prior to Islam?

Also, do you agree with Jesus’s statement or has it been altered that there will be no marriage in Heaven? Rather, we will be like angels.

 

[F_Ferdous]

I read through it but I can’t find where it’s speaking of Janna. Can you give me some quotes from the Qur’an or Hadith that explain what sex should be like as far as Heaven is concerned? I know that Heaven is much different than Earth in Islam, in that you have super human erections, have multiple beautiful beings to have sex with and you can now drink when you couldn’t drink on Earth. So how can one say that these passages speaking of sex on Earth apply in Heaven when the laws in Heaven have changed?

Oh, okay. I thought you wanted me to explain “sex is not dirty and sinful if done in the Halal way” part. Hmm… sex in Heaven:

questionsonislam.com/question/does-sexual-life-exist-paradise

I don’t think Thomas Aquinas speaks of sex in Heaven if that’s what you are implying? Perhaps he does, I would have to have a Catholic address that but I highly doubt it. No where in Scripture does it mention sex in Heaven, why was this left out for so long in all Scripture prior to Islam?

Also, do you agree with Jesus’s statement or has it been altered that there will be no marriage in Heaven? Rather, we will be like angels.

We believe it has been altered. Since, the consensus is that anything in the Judeo-Christian doctrine not in line with the Islamic one is an alteration by the Church. And Thomas Aquinas describes any sex not performed for the purpose of procreation is sinful and no sinful act can be permitted in Heaven. Since, in Heaven, we do not procreate, there will be no sex in Heaven. This is the opinion of Thomas Aquinas.

Islam doesn’t believe sex is sinful but treats it like a desire to be fulfilled in humans via a Halal way (marriage). However, there is the belief present in Islam that the people of Heaven shall be granted the powers of an angel and he/she shall not be of flesh but of spirit, therefore possessing no weaknesses such as loss of stamina or sensation of pain.

 

[F_Ferdous]

Thanks for your responses to my questions and welcome to CAF :tiphat:

You’re welcome.

 

[Steveabrous]

Supernatural has taken a lot from many religions. Which is why I love it so much! Oh yeah, I edited my passage above. I looked up the name of the species of Jinn that preys on humans sexually. They are known as Al-Kaboos or Al-Jathoom or Al-Khaaniq. I mentioned it on the edited quote. I also added in the fact that humans can also became one of the Shayateen in which case they are granted powers of sorcery. Of course, in return, when they die, they go to Hell.

The original episode with the Jinn was the one that put you in a fantasy were your dreams come true because they like the taste under those conditions. But there was another Jinn on a more recent episode that put thier victims in a fantasy were their worse nightmare comes true. Is that based off one of the Jinns in Islam (obviously they don’t actually put their victims to sleep) but I wonder if a proper name was given. I have to go to bed so I will check later for a post.

Supernatural bridges so many religions

 

[F_Ferdous]

The original episode with the Jinn was the one that put you in a fantasy were your dreams come true because they like the taste under those conditions. But there was another Jinn on a more recent episode that put thier victims in a fantasy were their worse nightmare comes true. Is that based off one of the Jinns in Islam (obviously they don’t actually put their victims to sleep) but I wonder if a proper name was given. I have to go to bed so I will check later for a post.

Supernatural bridges so many religions

Yes, some of the Jinn can make you live your worst nightmares such as the Kaboos. When they attack you in your sleep, you are either forced to live your worst nightmares or experience dreams of tremendous euphoria. These are a subspecies of the Kaboos, probably Al-Jathoom or Al-Khaaniq. I had an encounter with one just a few days back. I dreamed I was back with my family back home in Bangladesh playing with my dog until I had the sensation of being choked. I looked at my dog who had suddenly turned black with red eyes (she is white in real-life). I tried to say “A’oozubillahi-min’ Shaytan’ur-Razeem” meaning “I seek refuge in God from Satan the Accursed” but every time I tried I was being choked harder and harder until all I could say was “Allah” (God) and immediately I was released. Now, one difference from the Jinn is Supernatural you speak of and the ones in real-life is that the ones in real-life only attack those haunted by negative emotions such as guilt, fear or depression. As they feed on these emotions, the target no longer feels any of this but feels happy and euphoric with pleasant dreams. However, soon this momentary sensation of delight fades away and you are plunged into your worst nightmare fighting your deepest fears. This is the moment when one must remember God and seek Mercy in His Name in order to make it out. There are ways to prevent the whole thing entirely though by reciting a prayer before going to sleep or keeping inscriptions of prayers near oneself before hitting the hay.

 

[Reuben_J]

In the correct reading of the Arabic Qur’an, the number ‘72’ is nowhere there in the Book. The equivalent word for ‘so called Virgins’ in the Arabic means ‘companions’ and it is in neutral gender. The word in question is ‘Hur’. The word ‘Hur’ is a plural for the word ‘Ahwaar’ applicable to denote a man or ‘Hawar’ applicable to denote a woman. Meaning thereby, that both men and the women shall get plenty of good friends and perfect companions (Hur) in Paradise. Male chauvinistic translators or interpreters may have read ‘companions’ as ‘female companions’ and ‘good female companions’ as the ‘virgins’. It is the mindset of some readers that can be objected to and not the Book.

Hi. Welcom to the Forum. I have heard this explanation before. I think that is a good explanation and I personally like it.

Wish all Muslims would agree with this explanation and then there would be no problem. Non-Muslims who wants to know more about islam would be caught in some kind of a dilemma on who to believe. That is because there are many Muslims among you who don’t believe this. They believe these are the ‘houri’ or virgins who will give them the pleasure that paradise can give. And such Muslims would be willing to give up their lives for this belief.

 

[Reuben_J]

Thomas Aquinas introduced the act between a man and a wife as sinful, only to be used solely for procreation. How then could that be part of heaven? This is just one addition of many to the scriptures.

It is not part of the scripture as it is not added to it. Teaching from the Doctors of the Church well, is just teaching, as the word implies. I am not sure how I can explain that to you but probably it may akin to some some teaching by a reknown Islamic scholar which may or may not be taken or practiced by Muslims as a whole. Maybe another example, and I am just guessing - thirty years ago one could hardly see any Muslim women covering their hair but today a majority of them do.

The Aquinas teaching mentioned is not believed anymore now. Sex in Christian marriage is both for sexual pleasure and also must open the possibility of procreation. Sex is sacred, a gift from God for the well pleasure of the couple in Matrimony.

I am afraid in this case, Muslims are objecting to something that actually not in the context what it means to the belief of Christians.

 

[F_Ferdous]

Sex is sacred, a gift from God for the well pleasure of the couple in Matrimony.

This is the EXACT belief in Islam. But the thing is, unlike you, many Christians speak negatively of it. I’ve personally talked to many and more often than not they speak of sex born through the sin of Adam and Eve. When this sin shall be washed away and one will be born again in Christ, sex will no longer be a requirement for him/her. I don’t agree with that view. I, too, as a Muslim, believe sex is a consecrated act of love to solidify the bond between a husband and his wife.

 

[F_Ferdous]

And such Muslims would be willing to give up their lives for this belief.

Giving up your own life willingly for any cause other than let’s say taking the bullet for someone else who is innocent is prohibited in Islam under circumstances. When a person commits suicide, that person is allocated a special place in the Hellfire where he/she shall forever keep performing the act that he/she did to kill himself/herself. That means, if a woman hung herself to commit suicide, she will forever be hanged in that place in Hell for eternity but she won’t die. The person will have to endure the pain forever. Similarly, if a person blew himself up then he’ll blow himself to bits and then be put together again and then he will once again blow himself to bits and this will continue for ever and ever and ever. You can’t do something that God commanded you not to do and claim that you can do it in the Name of God and you’ll be forgiven. There is no such Law. What is forbidden is forbidden. God has forbidden for He dislikes it. If you do something God dislikes but claim to be doing it for him, your purpose is self-defeating. That is like if a child’s parents told the boy he is not to drink alcohol but the boy drinks alcohol and tells the parents, “Don’t worry, I’m drinking this in your names, mom and dad.” That is even worse. You are doing what your parents hated for you to do and you’re saying this you did in their names? God is above such dishonor. No innocent shall be killed in His Holy Name without the murderers having to recompense for it at the Day of Resurrection. And for those who murder innocents, for every life they take it is as if he killed the whole of mankind and for every life he must account for the lives of the whole of mankind. Imagine the condition of one who has to bear that burden. God is Just and His Fair Judgment shall come to pass. For now, we must wait and keep on praying. Because sinners shall always exist to play against God’s Plan; it is upon the believers to honor and glorify His Holy Name.

 

[Reuben_J]

This is the EXACT belief in Islam. But the thing is, unlike you, many Christians speak negatively of it.

You are right F-Ferdous, many Catholics spoke of sex in a negative light. This would be more common pre-Vatican II, before the sixties. I am not sure the purpose you are bringing this up though.

I can tell you a joke. There was a Catholic couple that would have to check whether it is a proper night to have sex. And this they did.

On Wednesday, it was Palm Sunday, a commemoration of the Lord’s triumphant entry into Jerusalem. So they have to mark this night with respect and honor. It was time for prayer and therefore sex was not appropriate. Thus they would abstain. And so, it went on very night.

On Thursday, it was the Lord’s Last Supper and the institution of the Eucharist.
On Friday, it was Good Friday, the Lord’s Passion and Death. Oh, God forbids that they should have sex. It is disrespectful!
On Saturday, it was Easter Vigil
On Sunday, it was Easter, the Lord’s resurrection.

Thus in a normal week, there would be only two days (Monday and Tuesday) when they were free to have sex. Unfortunately, if the wife had a period, then they had to abstain for the whole week.

What do you make of that? It is an attitude to sex of course not Christian doctrine. A good pre-marriage instruction would take care of that mostly which is what the Church is doing now. It is a requirement for any intending married couple to go for a pre-nuptial course.

So I am not quite sure what your point in bringing this up is. Unless you are trying to talk about some nutties things that Catholics do. Well, they sure are plenty. Perhaps we should print more copies of the Catechism and distribute them free to the parishioners.lol

I’ve personally talked to many and more often than not they speak of sex born through the sin of Adam and Eve. When this sin shall be washed away and one will be born again in Christ, sex will no longer be a requirement for him/her. I don’t agree with that view.

You should have talked to me then. lol. Well, that is not true. They are taking it upon themselves but perhaps it stems from ignorance.

I, too, as a Muslim, believe sex is a consecrated act of love to solidify the bond between a husband and his wife.

Yes, that’s it. I have spoken to Muslims regarding sex, though we have similar view on it, I feel Muslim marriage does not honor this sufficiently.

 

[Reuben_J]

Giving up your own life willingly for any cause other than let’s say taking the bullet for someone else who is innocent is prohibited in Islam under circumstances. When a person commits suicide, that person is allocated a special place in the Hellfire where he/she shall forever keep performing the act that he/she did to kill himself/herself. That means, if a woman hung herself to commit suicide, she will forever be hanged in that place in Hell for eternity but she won’t die. The person will have to endure the pain forever. Similarly, if a person blew himself up then he’ll blow himself to bits and then be put together again and then he will once again blow himself to bits and this will continue for ever and ever and ever. You can’t do something that God commanded you not to do and claim that you can do it in the Name of God and you’ll be forgiven. There is no such Law. What is forbidden is forbidden. God has forbidden for He dislikes it. If you do something God dislikes but claim to be doing it for him, your purpose is self-defeating. That is like if a child’s parents told the boy he is not to drink alcohol but the boy drinks alcohol and tells the parents, “Don’t worry, I’m drinking this in your names, mom and dad.” That is even worse. You are doing what your parents hated for you to do and you’re saying this you did in their names? God is above such dishonor. No innocent shall be killed in His Holy Name without the murderers having to recompense for it at the Day of Resurrection. And for those who murder innocents, for every life they take it is as if he killed the whole of mankind and for every life he must account for the lives of the whole of mankind. Imagine the condition of one who has to bear that burden. God is Just and His Fair Judgment shall come to pass. For now, we must wait and keep on praying. Because sinners shall always exist to play against God’s Plan; it is upon the believers to honor and glorify His Holy Name.

Thanks for this post. I understand Islam’s position on suicide. I don’t have to mention Christian’s position on this due to brevity.

Inevitably this discussion may have to touch on Muslim suicide bombers, albeit a recent trend. I qualify though that suicide bombing is not confined to Muslims only. Other political groups have been found to engage such tactic.

The special mention on Muslims here is because they do it on their belief. I disagree that they killed themselves just to become martyrs. They probably are not so stupid as to do that. The suicide thing is part of a military strategy. It is no difference than say a dangerous commando mission where the risk of being killed is very high in order to achieve an objective. Sometimes death in such mission is anything but a certainty. Just watch some of the old story of wars and we see many of these things.

In the mind of the Muslim freedom fighters, they were fighting for a noble cause, a Jihad. The objective is to defeat the enemy, strike and paralyze them at their weakest. Suicide bombing is merely one of the military tactics that is more suited to achieve the objective with the resources that are available to them.

I feel it is naïve to think that those Muslims who were willing to die were merely just for the sake of becoming martyrs and thus reaping the rewards in heaven , as many Western commentators would say, but I think they saw themselves as fighting for the cause of Allah and that they believe is allowed in Islam.

 

[jakasaki]

YAYY SUPERNATURAL FAN!! I’M A SUPERNATURAL FAN TOO!! I LOVE CASTIEL! DID YOU SEE THIS SEASON’S FINALE?! THE FALLING ANGELS! __

Jinn are basically the Islamic equivalent of demons. Except, they are not fallen angels or evil spirits of man but rather a being separately created of pure fire. Lucifer, in Islamic lore, wasn’t an angel but a Jinn. Unlike demons, a jinn can be good or bad just like humans as we believe God doesn’t create anything purely evil. Angels are forces purely of good. They have no free will. They only live to serve God. Mankind and Jinn on the other hand have been created to worship God through choice. The Jinn were created first though. And Lucifer was among the most pious of them. So God promoted him to reign over the Angels and made him one with the Archangels in Heaven. It is also important to note here that before the Jinn there was another race of beings known as the B’n. And the good B’n had all died out during the creation of the Jinn and then the evil ones were left behind, preying on each other and devouring each other (think of the Leviathans from Supernatural). The Jinn and Angels were then commanded to destroy the evil B’n left behind. Lucifer was the general of that army of Jinn and Angels along with Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Azriel. After the war, Lucifer was promoted as mentioned above. It was during this time that God created Adam and crowned him as His greatest creation. This made Lucifer jealous. All in Heaven, including Lucifer who was now part of Heaven, was ordered to bow down to the image of Adam but Lucifer refused and was thus stripped of his Grace. He was then named Iblis - the One who causes Despair, and he was entitled Shaytan (Satan), the first of the Shayateen (Devils). Following him, many Jinn also became evil and they too became one of the Shayateen. But these are those who chose to do so. Many Jinn today are still good. And they have their own race that thrives in a dimension of their own within this world. Good ones do not interfere in our matters but the ones influenced by Satan do. They can make deals with people in exchange for their souls (this is where the concept of a genie fulfilling three of one’s wishes come from). The Jinn can also be of many species such as the Daeva (they use their supernatural powers to trick people into thinking they’re gods; all pagan gods are thought to be Daevas deceiving people at the command of Satan; they are very strong); Afrit (they can give you power and wealth in exchange for your soul); the Marid (they can give you knowledge in exchange for your soul: knowledge like the future or past of a certain person or what a person is doing right now, etc; we believe fortune-tellers and diviners use them and thus a Muslim is advised not to even go near such people); the Jain (they resemble dogs and work for the Afrit; think hellhounds); the Ghoul (these prey on dead bodies of people whose funeral rites have not been fulfilled properly by a priest; they consume them and can take the form of the corpse they have eaten); the Vetala (they possess people, torture their souls and drain their life-force at the command of Satan); the Sila (they are reptilian in appearance but can shed their skin to take the form of a human of their choosing; think Shapeshifters); the Kaboos or Al-Jathoom or Al-Khaaniq (they prey on their victims while they’re asleep, trying to strange them or sexually molest them; think Incubus/Succubus) and the Shiqq (these are unintelligent foot soldiers of the Afrit who look like charred corpses akin to hellspawns). Of course, only the Jinn who are of the Shayateen use their powers as described above. We don’t know how the good ones of the above mentioned species use their abilities. Also, not only the Jinn but a human can also become of the Shayateen through certain methods that grant them the skills of black magic, witchcraft and sorcery.

Just one thing I want to point out to you for a moment.

Please use paragraphs to break up the screen for easy reading.

Can’t speak for others, but I, myself, when I see this one huge paragraph, I just skip it because my brain cannot break it down.

Thanks!

 

[Reuben_J]

Just one thing I want to point out to you for a moment.

Please use paragraphs to break up the screen for easy reading.

Can’t speak for others, but I, myself, when I see this one huge paragraph, I just skip it because my brain cannot break it down.

Thanks!

Yes, I was about to say that to Ferdous. I hope he notes that.

I sometimes used the Ipad or the android phone and that makes me available for a short spell but more frequent into the Forum. These strain the eyes and paragraphs do help.

At home I would normally used the desk top and the screen is large. But one long parapragh is like talking nonstop and you have to take a breath trying to pack in all the data.

 

[jakasaki]

Yes, I was about to say that to Ferdous. I hope he notes that.

I sometimes used the Ipad or the android phone and that makes me available for a short spell but more frequent into the Forum. These strain the eyes and paragraphs do help.

At home I would normally used the desk top and the screen is large. But one long parapragh is like talking nonstop and you have to take a breath trying to pack in all the data.

Ya know Reuben ~

If you read **my **replies, they are mostly broken down to sentences.

My pee-wee brain can’t even tolarate my own typing…

Anyway - resume the thread topic.

 

[Reuben_J]

Ya know Reuben ~

If you read **my **replies, they are mostly broken down to sentences.

My pee-wee brain can’t even tolarate my own typing…

Anyway - resume the thread topic.

I like your posts Pam because you are efficient with your words and still get the message through. I don’t have that gift. I have to speak at length to make a point.

Not to worry. Commenting for the good management of the thread is certainly helpful, instead of purposely trying to derail with troll-like argument which unfortunautely can happen here.

 

[F_Ferdous]

I feel Muslim marriage does not honor this sufficiently.

How so?