Muslims something to think about

[LilyM]

Why does Mohamad tell this “being” that he cannot read. Didn’t the All-knowing Allah know his chosen prophet was illiterate…??.

To be fair there are parallels in the OT. Why did God ask Adam (after the Fall) ‘where are you?’ and ‘who told you you were naked’? Didn’t He know where Adam was and how he had become aware of his nakedness?

Why did God ask Moses to go and speak to Pharaoh knowing Moses would protest that he was a stutterer? Didn’t God know that he would object?

 

[po18guy]

1. Jesus was a prophet. (Qur’an) (Bible)
2. Only Jesus and Mary were not touched by Satan at their birth. (Qur’an)
3. Muhammad was touched by Satan at his birth. (Qur’an - by inference)
4. Jesus said that all who come after Him are false prophets. (Bible)
5. Muhammad followed Jesus and is believed to be a prophet. (Qur’an)
6. Christianity rejects all prophets subsequent to Jesus. (Bible)
7. Islam accepts both Jesus and Muhammad. (Qur’an)
8. Either Jesus or Muhammad is lying.

Why would God (Allah) send a lying prophet?
Because He sent only one of them.

 

[Augustine3]

My only take with the claim of corrupt scripture is this:
If, God himself is unable to keep his revelation intact during the course of history, then there is no guarantee whatsoever, that current Quran is not corrupted, that in the course of history, there will be another “new prohpet” to reveal a pristine scripture.
But then, I cannot give my full assertion to any revelation. It just show that man sinfulness is too great and whatever covenant established we have no assurance that it will last.

It says in the Quran (I don’t remember where) the scriptures were entrusted to the Jews and Christians but because they both failed to preserve the purity of the scriptures, God now protects the Quran from corruption.

It doesn’t make any sense why God would deceive the people to make them think Jesus was crucified when it was someone else if the Christians were going to corrupt the scriptures anyway. It’s like rubbing salt on a wound.

God bless,

 

[hamba2han]

1. Jesus was a prophet. (Qur’an) (Bible)
2. Only Jesus and Mary were not touched by Satan at their birth. (Qur’an)
3. Muhammad was touched by Satan at his birth. (Qur’an - by inference)
   4. Jesus said that all who come after Him are false prophets. (Bible) (emphasis mine)
4. Muhammad followed Jesus and is believed to be a prophet. (Qur’an)
5. Christianity rejects all prophets subsequent to Jesus. (Bible)
6. Islam accepts both Jesus and Muhammad. (Qur’an)
7. Either Jesus or Muhammad is lying.

Why would God (Allah) send a lying prophet?
Because He sent only one of them.

According to the Bible, Jesus Christ (pbuh) warns of false prophets to come, NOT that there would be no new prophet to come after him.

And how to distinguish between the false and the true prophets of God who may come after Jesus Christ (pbuh)?

Matthew 7
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

First off, how is it possible that a man who calls for ‘jihad’ and then leads his followers into numerous battles, should then be considered to be someone who is in “sheep’s clothing”??

If anything, Matthew 7:15 simply cannot logically be talking about the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), can it now?

And since Jesus (pbuh) says in the Bible that new prophets should be judged by the “fruits” that they bring, then why isn’t Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) being judged by the “fruits” that he brought, which are really not much different than the “fruits” that are found in the Old Testament and also, like I have pointed out in the other thread, the actual teachings of Jesus Christ (pbuh) himself as written in the New Testament?

The only way to have a meaningful discussion about these “fruits” is to examine them objectively… and saying that the Old Testament laws were imperfect without providing any Biblical evidence whatsoever that they were imperfect, is really not a good way at all of having an objective examination of these laws.

 

[couponfit]

Majority of Muslims believe:

• The Torah has been corrupt.
• The Gospel has been corrupt.
• Even though the Israelites were a totally different generation to the Christians, nevertheless both generations had distorted the scriptures.
• God deceived the people by making them think it was Jesus on the cross when it was actually someone else that was made to look like Jesus.
• Even the non-Christian sources that confirm Jesus’ crucifixion are not reliable because they are based on a deceitful event designed by God.

Muslims don’t you think these claims are a little too convenient to suit Islam?

To simply claim all these sources are liars and the Quran is correct just seems a little too convenient for us Christians to accept…

Most religions accept their writings as that inspired by god and others as either not being as necessary or simply corrupted

 

[jakasaki]

To be fair there are parallels in the OT. Why did God ask Adam (after the Fall) ‘where are you?’ and ‘who told you you were naked’? Didn’t He know where Adam was and how he had become aware of his nakedness?

Why did God ask Moses to go and speak to Pharaoh knowing Moses would protest that he was a stutterer? Didn’t God know that he would object?

God knew exactly where Adam was.

And ditto to the Moses comment.

 

[InJesusItrust]

Mohammed supposedly ascended to heaven and saw prophets and OT heroes in heaven with God. Why, then, does he and Muslims have to await the Day of Judgement to escape hell?

 

[po18guy]

According to the Bible, Jesus Christ (pbuh) warns of false prophets to come, NOT that there would be no new prophet to come after him.

The Christian bible tells us that Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega - the first and the last. As well, the spirit in the Qur’an provided information that fundamentally changed God’s revealed nature. It fundamentally changed Jesus’ nature. This same exact occurrence happened with the spirit who appeared to Joseph Smith. Jesus and Muhammad disagreed on fundamental things. They both cannot both be telling the truth. Since Jesus was not touched by Satan at His birth, I follow Him.