My beliefs of tarot; advice

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I believe in my heart that possession is possible. I know of the dangers of divination and fortune telling and know the stories of Ouija and tarot alike, but I have a question about the latter. I also believe that, to an extent, tarot is somewhat generic. We interpret the cards in front of us to relate to our own personal lives. With this comes my question:

Can tarot cards be used for meditation (and not fortune telling)? If we interpret those cards as we want to interpret (see what we want to see), and they bring up thoughts about, “Maybe I could work on that in my relationship,” or, “Maybe I should go for that job offer,” is that just as sinful even though the cards didn’t do much but give generic advice and we gave them meaning?🤷
 
Hi. In my opinion, why mess around with Tarot cards at all? If you’re looking for something to meditate on, wouldn’t the bible or a spiritual book be much more appropriate and helpful? Meditating on the virtues or spiritual gifts can give the greatest insight into self improvement.

Just my :twocents:

God Bless You
 
I believe in my heart that possession is possible. I know of the dangers of divination and fortune telling and know the stories of Ouija and tarot alike, but I have a question about the latter. I also believe that, to an extent, tarot is somewhat generic. We interpret the cards in front of us to relate to our own personal lives. With this comes my question:

Can tarot cards be used for meditation (and not fortune telling)? If we interpret those cards as we want to interpret (see what we want to see), and they bring up thoughts about, “Maybe I could work on that in my relationship,” or, “Maybe I should go for that job offer,” is that just as sinful even though the cards didn’t do much but give generic advice and we gave them meaning?🤷
Just don’t. Better safe than sorry.
 
We shouldn’t use tarot cards for anything. In my opinion it’s still wrong

If you want to meditate there’s the Rosary and other accepted Catholic ways
 
Tarot is nice artwork, sometimes. Holy cards are nice artwork. If you need to collect something for meditation, collect holy cards.
 
The Pope says not to believe in false securities, and even meditation on them is opening a door for the devil. Please stick to meditating on the mysteries of the Rosary.
 
I believe in my heart that possession is possible. I know of the dangers of divination and fortune telling and know the stories of Ouija and tarot alike, but I have a question about the latter. I also believe that, to an extent, tarot is somewhat generic. We interpret the cards in front of us to relate to our own personal lives. With this comes my question:

Can tarot cards be used for meditation (and not fortune telling)? If we interpret those cards as we want to interpret (see what we want to see), and they bring up thoughts about, “Maybe I could work on that in my relationship,” or, “Maybe I should go for that job offer,” is that just as sinful even though the cards didn’t do much but give generic advice and we gave them meaning?🤷
You do not need Tarot Cards to help you find areas to improve your life or give you advice. Please put them away and talk to people; human communication will better serve you than some vague, interpret-how-you-want deck of cards.
 
I have found journaling to be very helpful. I try not to self censor and when I do that makes me pause and take note.

I haven’t drawn in my journal, but you can do that too. I place scripture and other quotes and sometimes dreams in it. It would probably bore others to tears reading my journal. But I have over time observed it acts like a sounding board and I’ve discovered new ways of loooking at decisions, personal history and situations. I don’t tend to use anything but an inexpensive spiral notebook, or this past year I kept it on my laptop.

It pictures help, try Pinterest although there are plenty of dangerous, I mean spiritually dangerous, pins available there and you need to be aware.

It is best to avoid stuff that may lean dangerously close to the occult.

God bless and keep you!
 
I believe in my heart that possession is possible. I know of the dangers of divination and fortune telling and know the stories of Ouija and tarot alike, but I have a question about the latter. I also believe that, to an extent, tarot is somewhat generic. We interpret the cards in front of us to relate to our own personal lives. With this comes my question:

Can tarot cards be used for meditation (and not fortune telling)? If we interpret those cards as we want to interpret (see what we want to see), and they bring up thoughts about, “Maybe I could work on that in my relationship,” or, “Maybe I should go for that job offer,” is that just as sinful even though the cards didn’t do much but give generic advice and we gave them meaning?🤷
We have wise Doctors of the Church, several of them are teachers about prayer. Listen to the wisdom of the Church and seek her ways of prayer and meditation. You have been given much good advice here.

Peace,

Dorothy
 
We recall that Jesus has no deep desire to know when end times would come either. It is left to the Father to decide. So we can see it can only serve the devil by one-uping Jesus. These things are simply another means of conjuring, as we seek some provider, whatever/whoever that may be to give us information. They have their own motives other than to serve the desires of creatures destined for greatness. If we desire anything, pray. If we don’t get an answer, we don’t need it.
 
Stay away from tarot cards or anything similar. God in His Word in the Holy Bible warns us that such things are harmful and wrong. No good can ever come of such things. They are lures and deceptions.
 
This is a wonderful idea. Tarot is wonderfully thought provoking. Even the Pope emeritus had “Meditations on the Tarot”. Tarot is almost entirely pulled from Catholic imagery.
Can you link me to those meditations?
 
Tarot is actually a card game (still is) that’s in no way occult, Satanic, or in any way forbidden by the Catechism. If you’re playing the official card-game jeux de tarot - yes, you can play the card game. **However, if you’re in the U.S., you may need to get a non-occult tarot off ebay or Amazon **

*In French, Danish, and some Italian games, the full complement of 78 cards is used, but most central European games are played with a 54-card pack.

The concept of trumps had already been imperfectly prefigured in the earlier German game of karnöffel by the attachment of special powers to certain individual cards, but its full realization in the form of a fifth suit was unique to trionfi. This invention added a new dimension to the skill and interest of trick play and proved so popular that it was adopted into the standard 52-card deck by the simple device of randomly choosing one of the four standard suits to play the part of trionfi. Thus arose by the end of the 15th century the French game of triomphe and its English equivalent, triumph, or trump, the immediate ancestor of whist and, ultimately, bridge. With this transference of meaning, the 22 special cards became known in Italian as tarocchi, a word of unknown origin.

There was a resurgence of French tarot during the last half of the 20th century, and its rules are (theoretically) governed by the Fédération Française de Tarot. Austrian tarock has developed a number of increasingly complex games, of which the most advanced is königsrufen (its name meaning “call the king”). Other significant tarot games include ottocento (Bologna), paskievics (Hungarian tarokk), cego (Germany), and the old Italian game of minchiate, played with a pack expanded to 97 cards, which became extinct in the early 20th century. Features derived from tarot games are to be found in many European national card games, such as skat (Germany), preference (Russia), and vira (Sweden), while the game of Bavarian tarock, despite its name, is now played exclusively with standard (German-suited) cards.*

britannica.com/topic/tarot-game

boardgamegeek.com/thread/1482154/how-play
 
Can tarot cards be used for meditation (and not fortune telling)? If we interpret those cards as we want to interpret (see what we want to see), and they bring up thoughts about, “Maybe I could work on that in my relationship,” or, “Maybe I should go for that job offer,” is that just as sinful even though the cards didn’t do much but give generic advice and we gave them meaning?
To be as specific as possible, you should probably be looking at what’s called Marseilles tarot – which are the non-occult type of tarot cards used for playing card games – and which don’t always have religious-themed pictures on the cards. Thankfully, the non-occult card-game type of tarot are a click away on ebay or Amazon.
 
If you really are a Catholic, (lots of people put that, but really are not) then you should know that tarot cards are strictly forbidden. Full stop.
They do not tell you anything about your situation because they are pieces of cardstock.
The devil only needs the slightest invitation to come into your life and warp your thoughts.

Just no.
 
Freemasonry, ancient Egypt, the usual suspects.

Tarot Cards

Although there are many different theories about the origin of tarot cards (pronounced “tar-o”), there is some evidence that they originated in Italy in the 14th century, with the earliest recorded mention of their use dating to 1391, according to Father William Saunders, dean of the Notre Dame Graduate School of Christendom College, who wrote an article titled, “The History of Tarot Cards” for the Arlington (Va.) Catholic Herald.

Based in the occult, tarot cards are used predominantly for cartomancy, divination or fortune telling.

The modern history of the tarot, according to the New Age Almanac, can be traced to a French Huguenot pastor named Antoine Court de Gebelin (1719-1784). De Gebelin became active in Parisian freemasonry circles, and joined the Philalethes, a French Masonic occult order. He became an accomplished occult scholar and, through his various social connections, discovered the tarot.

De Gebelin believed the occult symbolism of the cards tied them to ancient Egypt, although that has never been substantiated.

In 1783, a fortune teller known only as Etteilla published a book detailing a methodology for tarot cartomancy, and the use of the cards for fortune telling continues to this day.

Father Saunders describes the composition of the 78 cards in the tarot deck this way: “The pack of cards — known as the “Tarocco” — is made up of 22 major “enigmas,” whose figures represent a synthesis of the mysteries of life, and 56 minor images incorporating 14 figures in four series (gold, clubs, swords and goblets).”

The gold series symbolizes intellectual activity; the club series symbolizes government; the sword series symbolizes the military; and the goblet series symbolizes the priesthood.

“Practitioners of Tarot believe that these enigmas, images and series represent the sum of the knowledge of all sciences, particularly astrology, and that the permutations in “dealing with the cards” is capable of revealing the future and solving all problems,” Father Saunders writes.

The occult links of ouija boards and tarot cards may not be immediately obvious to some individuals, especially when they are sold as children’s games. Some people fall unwittingly into the habit of using the divining devices without realizing they have exposed themselves to the influence of demonic spirits.

Because of such hidden dangers, strong warnings against all forms of divination are found throughout Scripture and in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

One such admonition is found in the book of Deuteronomy: “Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist [spiritualist] or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord.” (18:10-12)

The Catechism also notes that, along with breaking the first commandment, the use of divination devices is wrong because they “conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers.” (No. 2116)

“To invoke Satan or any other power, to enter the darkness [the occult] for any assistance, or to attempt to usurp powers which belong to God alone is a defiance of the authority of almighty God,” warns Father Saunders. “To commit such acts is to turn away from God and place our own souls in jeopardy.”

catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=8760
 
Interesting. I did not know that St. JP2 wrote about the Tarot.

Still, in North America, because the occult-free tarot card game is very rare (having never caught on in Britain), the tarot has an almost universal occult significance. The line between meditation and divination is razor thin. I would in no way use tarot to try to guide my life.

It’s worth staying away from IMINWHO. I do not “fear” Satan, just as I do not “fear” rattlesnakes, but would not try to stomp around their dens.

ICXC NIKA
 
This is a wonderful idea. Tarot is wonderfully thought provoking. Even the Pope emeritus had “Meditations on the Tarot”. Tarot is almost entirely pulled from Catholic imagery.
Meditations on the Tarot was written by an anonymous author, not Pope Benedict or any pope.

Tarot is a completely occult device, a device of divination, a violation of the First Commandment and is condemned by the Church.

To use the Tarot as a means of meditation would be like, and is, using the devil’s means for meditation.
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GearXL:
Can tarot cards be used for meditation (and not fortune telling)? If we interpret those cards as we want to interpret (see what we want to see), and they bring up thoughts about, “Maybe I could work on that in my relationship,” or, “Maybe I should go for that job offer,” is that just as sinful even though the cards didn’t do much but give generic advice and we gave them meaning?
Why? Use Catholic means of meditation, not occult means.

Also, the questions of “maybe I could work on that in my relationship,” or, “Maybe I should go for that job offer,” belong to the realm of prayer to God.

What you have described here, “even though the cards didn’t do much but give generic advice and we gave them meaning?” is divination. Give them meaning is what a Tarot reader does. “Give generic advice” how can cards give any advice.

Yes, it is sinful to do this.
 
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