My confession was rejected

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Maybe someone can explain to me the apparent catch-22 in this situation.

First, it is a mortal sin to be married with mortal sins on one’s soul.

Second, it is a mortal sin to recieve the sacraments while living in a state of sin, as alluded to previously.

How does obviously repentant, God-fearing man avoid sin?

Mat.
He doesn’t/ He avoids as much as possible and confesses those that he cannot. First off I would say don’t get married outside of the faith or while in a state of mortal sin. Make sure that you have an annulment if you divorce and plan to re marry and make sure your partner is in the same situation. It makes things much easier

Don’t receive any of the sacraments in a state of mortal sin. Thats really not too hard to do. You knowq when you commit one.
 
I went to confession the other day after about 25 years. I had found a “guide” to confession to use as an outline to make sure I was being thorough. In the confessional, per the guide’s instruction, I confessed that I was married outside the church (my parent’s back yard by a judge). The priest then told me that I was outside the sacraments and my confession was stopped. This left me devestated! I was almost half way through my confession! When I returned home I tried to find any resource that could have warned me that this would happen to no avail. Then I started wondering about the purpose. I believe it is the Church’s intention/decision to punish? me! Why?! I was requesting forgiveness - denied!
I always feel bad for people when I hear stories like this. Do you think for a second that Jesus would reject a confession of sin?

You only have to look to God’s word for answers.

1 TIM 2:5 “For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,”

1 JOHN 1:9 “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

Jesus died on the cross, bearing the sins of the World. The veil in the Temple was torn into, signifying that anyone who believes can go directly to God through the finished work of Jesus.

JOHN 8:36 “Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be free indeed.”

ROMANS 8:1 “There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,”

Know the Bible and do not be decieved of your salvation any longer!!! Repent…cry out to Jesus and let faith in Him alone save you by His grace.

Brother in Christ,
Jonathan
 
HEBREWS 4:16 “Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.”

Get your authority from God’s word.
 
HEBREWS 4:16 “Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.”

Get your authority from God’s word.
By all means…you might want to take a look at John Chapter 20 verses 22 and 23.
 
By all means…you might want to take a look at John Chapter 20 verses 22 and 23.
**Mark 2:7 says, “…Who can forgive sins but God only?” **The answer is no one, so it can’t be teaching that. You say, “Well, what is Jesus saying?” He is obviously saying that you have the right to say someone’s sins are forgiven and someone else’s are not forgiven. You say, “Can I go up to somebody and say, Your sins are forgiven'?" Absolutely, as a believer. You say, "Can I go up to somebody and say, Sorry, your sins are not forgiven’?” Yes, you can. You say, “How can I ever do that?” To any man who is conscious of his sin, and who repents toward God and believes in the Lord Jesus Christ, you can say to that man, “Your sins are forgiven.” To any man who willfully rejects and does not believe, and refuses Christ, you can say, “Your sins are retained.” You and I have the right to tell a man whether or not God has forgiven his sins based on what he has done with Jesus Christ.

Can you imagine what would happen if we didn’t have this power? Suppose you went out and preached the gospel in the power of the Holy Spirit, and then someone prays and says, “Christ, come into my life. I believe.” Then he says, “Oh, did it happen?” And you say, “Well, I don’t know. One of these days you’ll find out.” No! You have to be able to say, “Brother, on the basis of the fact that you have confessed Christ, I say to you that your sins, by the mouth of God, are forgiven.” We have the right to say that. That is power and authority. Can you imagine going out to witness to the world with no authority to say that sins are either forgiven or not forgiven? That would be insipid. Nobody would ever believe anything we said. People would become frustrated to the point of terror.

Praise God that Jesus not only told us what to do and gave us the power to do it, but allows us to tell the people what has been done.
 
**Mark 2:7 says, “…Who can forgive sins but God only?” **The answer is no one, so it can’t be teaching that.

Praise God that Jesus not only told us what to do and gave us the power to do it, but allows us to tell the people what has been done.
That power is the Sacrament of Reconcillation. 😉
 
I have to disagree on one point - I don’t think that finding another priest just because of one uncomfortable situation will do him any good. Forming a relationship with anyone, including a priest, has its ups and downs. Doing as Father has suggested above by making an appointment and discussing everything from the beginning could be the start of a wonderful relationship for this couple and their priest. Running away from the man because he was doing his job is not what I would suggest.

~Liza
Ahh but he didn’t do his job well, in my opinion 😉 I am in the camp of thinkers that believe it’s always best to use the gifts of the Holy Spirit when counseling someone in error. The more flys with honey approach. 🙂 and no, I don’t mean not correcting the error, just the approach. If a priest is terse with me in a situation that doesn’t or shouldn’t warrant it then I would seek out a different priest. The OP has been away from the Church for many years, she doesn’t know the faith that well. She needs to find someone that isn’t going to knock her over the head 😃 and no, I’m not in the camp of thinkers that the thinks our faith is…well “just mean sometimes and that’s just the way is” or “our faith is NOT always easy, deal with it” naww, I don’t agree with that because it gives people an excuse to be nasty.

End of my rantings 😃
 
I could be wrong, but it is my understanding that the only reasons for rejecting a confession is #1, that the penitent is not truly sorry for his/her sins, or #2 that the penitent has not confessed all of his/her mortal sins.

The priest did inform my husband and me that we would not be able to receive communion until our convalidation, but other than that, he completely accepted my confession.

So I’m a little confused, to say the least, as to why your confession was rejected. If it all possible, I would talk to another priest.

Mary
One of the requirements for receiving absolution is “a firm purpose of amendment” - which means that the penitent has a firm intention of never again commiting the sins confessed. Now, someone in an invalid marriage clearly needs to make some arrangements for avoiding sins against the 6th Commandment - either fornication or adultery.

You say that the riest “accepted your confession” - but, since he told you that you would not be able to receive Communion until you convalidated your marriage, then he did not give you absolution. He couldn’t. If he did, he would have been committing a mortal sin himself.
 
First, it is a mortal sin to be married with mortal sins on one’s soul.
Where does it say that?

In any case, one would go to confession before having the marriage convalidated so there wouldn’t be a problem.
The priest I went to is a highly respected priest known around the world, and he completely accepted my confession, but informed me that we would have to have our marriage convalidated.
The priest did inform my husband and me that we would not be able to receive communion until our convalidation, but other than that, he completely accepted my confession.
Those two statements don’t go together. If he “completely accepted” your confession, he wouldn’t tell you not to receive communion.
 
In Regards to the OP…IF (and I hope so) you have not been previously Married and neither has your “spouse” then this is a very very easy fix…it may be emotionally challenging but in order to return to your church all you need is to have your marriage convalidated.
 
The priest did inform my husband and me that we would not be able to receive communion until our convalidation, but other than that, he completely accepted my confession.

So I’m a little confused, to say the least, as to why your confession was rejected. If it all possible, I would talk to another priest.

Mary
The priest on behalf of Christ did not Sacramentally accept your confession. If what I am understanding here is you are explaining a counseling session and not a Sacrament. One is either absolved of their sins or not during confession.A person cannot recieve communion because of the guilt of Mortal SIn. Being guilty of one Mortal Sin is no different than being guilty of 1000 Mortal sins. If you cannot recieve the Eucharist then you did not recieve absolution which means it wasnt confession. If it was a highly respected confessor then you misunderstood him and need to take a basic Catechism to have some understanding of the Sacraments especially the Sacraments of Reconciliation and matrimony.
 
The priest on behalf of Christ did not Sacramentally accept your confession. If what I am understanding here is you are explaining a counseling session and not a Sacrament. One is either absolved of their sins or not during confession.A person cannot recieve communion because of the guilt of Mortal SIn. Being guilty of one Mortal Sin is no different than being guilty of 1000 Mortal sins. If you cannot recieve the Eucharist then you did not recieve absolution which means it wasnt confession. If it was a highly respected confessor then you misunderstood him and need to take a basic Catechism to have some understanding of the Sacraments especially the Sacraments of Reconciliation and matrimony.
I’m sorry, but I’m very confused by your post. How do you come to this conclusion that my sins were not absolved? I confessed all my sins, the priest gave me absolution, but told me that I would have to have my marriage convalidated. Here is a link to a question to the apologist regarding receiving communion before convalidation, and Fr. Serpa says that if the couple live as brother and sister, they are allowed to receive communion. So it would seem that just as their sins were absolved in confession, so were mine.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=14820

You were not in the confessional, you do not know what transpired. I think is very wrong of you to make such judgments.

Mary
 
Brooklyn:
For your sins to have been forgiven (absolved) you would have had to agree to live as brother and sister until your marraige was convalidated. Was this the case? Engaging in sexual relations within in invalid marriage is the sin of fornication (though a couple may not be culpable if they do not realize that their marriage is invalid) as the marriage does not exist.
 
I’m sorry, but I’m very confused by your post. How do you come to this conclusion that my sins were not absolved? I confessed all my sins, the priest gave me absolution, but told me that I would have to have my marriage convalidated. Here is a link to a question to the apologist regarding receiving communion before convalidation, and Fr. Serpa says that if the couple live as brother and sister, they are allowed to receive communion. So it would seem that just as their sins were absolved in confession, so were mine.

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=14820

You were not in the confessional, you do not know what transpired. I think is very wrong of you to make such judgments.

Mary
If your sins were absolved then it is impossible to be told not to recieve communion. You said the priest told you not to recieve communion. THE ONLY REASON priest would tell an able bodied Catholic to not recieve a validly consecreated host is becuase they are in a persistant state of Mortal SIn.

You said the confessional priest told you to refrain from recieving.
The priest did inform my husband and me that we would not be able to receive communion until our convalidation, but other than that, he completely accepted my confession.
Other than that??? LIke I said a priest cannot sort of or kinda in part or 1/2 accept in the confessional it is HE EITHER ABSOLVED YOU OR HE DIDNT

…why else… pray tell… would he tell you not to recieve the Eucharist???
 
Brooklyn:
For your sins to have been forgiven (absolved) you would have had to agree to live as brother and sister until your marraige was convalidated. Was this the case? Engaging in sexual relations within in invalid marriage is the sin of fornication (though a couple may not be culpable if they do not realize that their marriage is invalid) as the marriage does not exist.
We did live as brother and sister until our convalidation. I’m really wondering why everyone is so quick to say my sins weren’t absolved? I was truly sorry and willing to do whatever was necessary. When we were married outside the church, I was a fallen away Catholic. I confessed my sins, the priest forgave me and later we made plans for the convalidation. What more could I do? Christ didn’t say you have to be perfectly right before God before you can be forgiven. He said you have to be truly sorry, and trust me, I was. Am I in a state of mortal sin because the priest couldn’t instantly convalidate our marriage? For convalidation, one of the things that is required is to get a new baptismal certificate and fill out other paper work, and then the priest needs to schedule you in. If I were to die before that could happen, even though I was truly sorry for my sin, would I go to hell because I hadn’t had a chance to formally convalidate my marriage?

Come on people, you’re making it almost impossible to be forgiven. It is attitudes like those exhibited that drive people away.

BTW, even though I later found out it wasn’t necessary (see my earlier post), I did not receive communion until our convalidation and I had gone to confession. But I did not re-confess all my sins from my prior confession.

Mary
 
Come on people, you’re making it almost impossible to be forgiven. It is attitudes like those exhibited that drive people away.

Mary
Very well put Mary. I agree 100%! I’ll say it again. This priest didn’t handle the situation very well at all. It was wrong headed. I question the person being “outside of the sacrament” it doesn’t make sense to me at all. What if someone was confessing on their dieing bed and the priest realized their marriage wasn’t valid. Would the priest stop and say oh sorry your dieing, but your outside the sacrament. :confused: and please no one answer that by saying “some of our rules are not always easy” :rolleyes:
 
Very well put Mary. I agree 100%! I’ll say it again. This priest didn’t handle the situation very well at all. :
Well now if you want to be hypothetical…since the priest informed her to not recieve communion do you think you death bed priest would do the SAME? Do you really think a priest would tell a person dying not to recieve communion similar to what Brooklyn said her confessor told her??? hmmmm???Please inform me of a circumstance when a priest would tell a penitent to refrain from communion outside of the reason of MORTAL SIN! ? (communion meaning an able Catholic in a state of grace recieving a validy consecrated host) .

TO clear this matter up BOTH OF YOU could you please give me a reason why the priest said not to recieve communion?
 
Well now if you want to be hypothetical…since the priest informed her to not recieve communion do you think you dead beat priest would do the SAME? Do you really think a priest would tell a person dying not to recieve communion similar to what Brookly said her confessor told her??? hmmmm???Please inform me of a circumstance when a priest would tell a penitent to refrain from communion outside of the reason of MORTAL SIN! ?

TO clear this matter up BOTH OF YOU could you please give me a reason why the priest said not to recieve communion?
I don’t know why my priest told me not to receive communion. I do know that Fr. Serpa said that if we live as brother and sister, we can receive communion.

Why do you want to condemn me and others in my situation? I really feel like I am being stoned by you and others like you with your attitude. I, and others in my situation, do the best we can do. We following the teachings of the Church by going to confession and truly repenting of the things we have done. When we are told what we need to do, we follow those instructions. As soon as I got home from confession, that day I immediately contacted the Church where I was baptized to get a copy of my baptismal certificate, and then immediately made plans to have my marrige convalidated. We had our marriage convalidated the next month and were brought back into full communion with the Church.

What more do you want? Please explain why you want to condemn.

Mary
 
I don’t know why my priest told me not to receive communion. I do know that Fr. Serpa said that if we live as brother and sister, we can receive communion.

Why do you want to condemn me and others in my situation? I really feel like I am being stoned by you and others like you with your attitude. I, and others in my situation, do the best we can do. We following the teachings of the Church by going to confession and truly repenting of the things we have done. When we are told what we need to do, we follow those instructions. As soon as I got home from confession, that day I immediately contacted the Church where I was baptized to get a copy of my baptismal certificate, and then immediately made plans to have my marrige convalidated. We had our marriage convalidated the next month and were brought back into full communion with the Church.

What more do you want? Please explain why you want to condemn.

Mary
I am not condemning you …LOOK thousands…if not millions of people read this forum. this is about spreading the truth…your original post made it seem like a priest told you that he absolved you of your sins and then told you not to recieve communion…THAT IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY… simple understanding of the state of grace (grade school catechsim) would lead a penitent to KNOW that if a priest says not to recieve communion…it means YOU ARE NOT ABSOVED of you sins. HOW ELSE CAN IT BE???
 
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