My first book burning!

[pleaserecycle]

Trelow:

Freedom is the right to do what you ought, not the right to do what you want.

My point is that Catholic Americans “ought” to respect the legal rights of fellow Americans to express their opinions, to read the opinions of others, and to make their own decisions regarding faith.

This quotation sums up my feelings on this topic:

“You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.”

-John Morley

 

[brotherhrolf]

Book burning? The Spanish friars burned the vast majority of the Mayan codices because they thought they were about demons. Turns out they were about Mayan astronomy. I would NEVER advocate burning books because I did not believe in the subject matter contained in the books. Haven’t we learned from history or are we doomed to repeat it over and over?

 

[Laurel]

Trelow:

Going through some boxes in the garage I found a book by fr. cough heretic cough Richard McBrien. Apparently some priest had given it to my wife when she first joined the Church.

So
WOOF! It went.

Please people, destroy these things. Our public library has a few books that I think may get “disappeared”.

I am sorry to say this but the end does not justify the means. What books will be next on your list and what about thou shall not steal?.

 

[jphod]

I keep Fr. McBrien’s book on my shelf right next to Womanspirit Rising as well as Lorraine Boettner’s Roman Catholicism … you can’t fight error if you ignore it. Know your enemy.

 

[grotto]

I love to read so I love good books! I have come across many books that their only worth is when they are used in the fireplace - face it. Not all thoughts and expressions of opinion deserve safeguarding. Lets talk about pornography. I feel strongly that it should not be protected under the 2nd Amendment and should be burned, deleted, and those who publish or promote it should be registered sex offenders! Harsh ay? You bet its harsh because that is what is needed. Zero tolerance - no whiny excuses. The level of published corruption which is demonic in its nature has permeated every level of our culture to destroy us. I have no patience with those who wish to use the written, spoken, or “art” that profane Our Lord and the Blessed Mother. Remember the
urine/crucifix and the elephant dung? So, should I happen across
some, I won’t be so respectful of it. Because it resides in a public library that I help pay for and is there for me - and find it - well,
ooops! pardon me! :tiphat:

 

[PAPH]

I also own Mcbrien’s book on my shelf. Like others here, I do NOT allow anyone to borrow it. However, I have wedged it between my Catechism and my Catholic Encyclopedia. It is my hope that by positioning it thus, and through many prayers, I may be able to convert to book to spontaneously re-write itself into an orthodox text. Think that it will work???

 

[CanonAlberic]

Perhaps my earlier post to this thread was a bit emotional. Sorry. It’s just that there are probably not many out there who would understand the passion I’ve had for books since I was a small child. I was easy to buy Christmas gifts for… I didn’t want a “Big Wheel” or toy gun, I wanted books. Needless to say, my parents were delighted! My love for books continues to this day… I look at them as more than just objects.

Now, I certainly would not recommed donating or giving away things like porno (and just what was smut doing in your library anyway?). I agree that garbage like that shouldn’t be passed on, even inadvertently by means of a charitable gesture. Throw that stuff in the trash… that doesn’t bother my.
Perhaps it’s simply the symbolic (and downright wrong) idea of physically setting fire to a book that bothers me so much. Perhaps it’s the knowledge of where past book-burnings have led us on occassion. I guess everything is not necessarily set in stone. I’ll admit that I’ve used pages from “Unfit for Command” to line the bottom of my parrot cage… I honestly thought torching that one would be a waste of a good match…

Peace.

 

[jeffreedy789]

My first course of action is to ask if they will include a sticker on the cover stating: “The views in this book are found to be contrary to the official teaching of the Catholic Church.”

in that case, in all fairness, books like the catechism will have to have stickers on them that say ‘the views in this book are found to be contrary to the official teaching of the local baptist church, and most religions of the world, including buddhism, islam, hinduism, etc.’

the best defense is a strong offense - put the truth out there!

It is my hope that by positioning it thus, and through many prayers, I may be able to convert to book to spontaneously re-write itself into an orthodox text. Think that it will work???

excellent suggestion.

So, should I happen across
some, I won’t be so respectful of it. Because it resides in a public library that I help pay for and is there for me - and find it - well,
ooops! pardon me! :tiphat:

and how would you feel if the zealous protestant from your town visited your catholic church, and since they considered your statue of mary to be idolatrous, well - ooops! pardon them! ??

do unto others…

 

[jeffreedy789]

or, since i see you’ve made a point that it’s in a public place, what if a satanist sees a depiction of Christ at a local museum and defaces it like you’re suggesting?

 

[Trelow]

CanonAlberic:

Throw that stuff in the trash… that doesn’t bother my.
Perhaps it’s simply the symbolic (and downright wrong) idea of physically setting fire to a book that bothers me so much. Perhaps it’s the knowledge of where past book-burnings have led us on occassion.

People do take things out of the trash, the best way to destory something is though holocaust.

I guess everything is not necessarily set in stone. I’ll admit that I’ve used pages from “Unfit for Command” to line the bottom of my parrot cage… I honestly thought torching that one would be a waste of a good match…

Peace.

Heh, I probably would have built a shrine for that one. VIVA SWIFTIES!!!

 

[Trelow]

jeffreedy789:

in that case, in all fairness, books like the catechism will have to have stickers on them that say ‘the views in this book are found to be contrary to the official teaching of the local baptist church, and most religions of the world, including buddhism, islam, hinduism, etc.’

the best defense is a strong offense - put the truth out there!

But the Catechism isn’t claiming to be the official teaching of the local baptist church, and most religions of the world, including buddhism, islam, hinduism, etc.

The Church has a beautiful history of protecting her children through censure of material. Many people think that the "rights’ of individuals trump all, that is not the case.

Thou shall have no other gods before me – God
That includes the “rights” of people.

 

[jeffreedy789]

however, you live in the united states of america. the law here says you have to respect the rights of others.

besides that, you seem to be ignoring the idea that ‘doing unto others’ means treating their books with dignity and respect, just as we ask them to treat ours with the same.

 

[Shiann]

The OP has made it clear that he was being a bit dramatic in his comments about burning the library book.

We all know stealing is wrong.

But if I bought it- or I own it- I can burn it, I can shred it, I can run over it 100 times with my 4WD till it resembles ditch trash- or line my birdcage with it.

Only one book is sacred. Only one book is worthy of the reverence some of these posters give some of these man made materials.

Are many of the manuscripts described above invaluable in human terms? Of course. What wonderful things we might have learned from them. But burning one book that I own is not wrong- especially if I deem it harmfull to my home and to society.

If the author of the book is espousing ideas that are NOT in support of the teachings of the Catholic Church. It is the author of the book who is tredging on dishonesty if he knowingly represents himself and a knowledgable clergy and at the same time dissents from the authority of the religion he represents. And markets his thoughts and ideas as truth, or in communion with the Church!

I would like to add that I am in full support of freedom of speech. But I have often made certain materials “banned items” in my home- as well as movies, music, computer software, etc. If I find it in my home, I destroy it.

I happen to love many of the books and novels that have been banned and burned over the years… HP, To Kill a Mockingbird, etc. And I would be the first in line to protest our government silencing people who wish to speak- in whatever form. They have a right to speak their thoughts. But on the other side of that coin is my right to NOT have to listen to it too. People’s right to be heard does NOT supercede my right to remain free from the influence of it.

KUDOS to Trelow for taking action. I will pray for your cause with your local library, that you find a legal and successfull way to remove the trash, or at least make sure there is a comprable alternative.

 

[Trelow]

jeffreedy789:

besides that, you seem to be ignoring the idea that ‘doing unto others’ means treating their books with dignity and respect, just as we ask them to treat ours with the same.

I’d rather someone let me know if I was spreading heresy, than to let me dance and sing all the way to hell, and lead everyone right behind me.

 

[anon50111284]

Daisy Duck:

I’m surprised you are allowed to get away with advocating criminal activity on a “religious” message board. Shame on the officials who let this stay up. It should be removed.

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