My Local TLM

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Received a letter from Ecclesia Dei. They said that Ecclesia Dei isn’t the competent office, and they forwarded it to the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments.
 
mattheus09 said:
Received a letter from Ecclesia Dei. They said that Ecclesia Dei isn’t the competent office, and they forwarded it to the Congregation for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments.
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Thanks for the update. It’s nice when people do that.
 
I didn’t read through the whole thread so sorry if I missed something, but if a Church lists a “Latin mass” on the schedule, does that automatically mean it is the Traditional Latin Mass or can an OF Mass be completely in Latin?

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TrueLight said:
I didn’t read through the whole thread so sorry if I missed something, but if a Church lists a “Latin mass” on the schedule, does that automatically mean it is the Traditional Latin Mass or can an OF Mass be completely in Latin?

Thanks.
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Chances are it’s the Traditional Latin Mass, although the OF Mass can be completely said in Latin, including the sermon, according to Cardinal Arinze.
 
Thanks!

I attended a TLM twice at this church. I love it, but the church is more of a commuter church. The church I have been attending recently has a very reverent OF mass which has lots of Latin, but the bulletin says there is an early mass in Latin and I was wondering if it was TLM.
 
TrueLight said:
Thanks!

I attended a TLM twice at this church. I love it, but the church is more of a commuter church. The church I have been attending recently has a very reverent OF mass which has lots of Latin, but the bulletin says there is an early mass in Latin and I was wondering if it was TLM.
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There are signs that show what mass it is. How many times do they say the “non sum dignus” (Lord I am not worthy). If 3 times, it’s a TLM.
 
Bakuryokuso said:
I think that’s why the Novus Ordo is so radical… because they took so much out… up until then, liturgical changes were mainly additions, not subtractions.
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In 1955 Pius XII threw away most of the Octaves, half of the Vigils, the additional Collects/Secrets/Postcommunions. He also made the radical change related to the previous elaborated system for the precedence (1st class, 2nd class, duplex majus, duplex, semiduplex, simplex, commemoration).

The prayer at the foot of the altar, the last Gospel, the Leo XIII prayers was thrown away in 1967.

After that the 1970 rite only changed the readings and Gospels, and also the controversial offertory prayers. The rest were additions: the entrance process, the variations in the penitential rite, the offertory process, the variations in the canon, the acclamation after the consecration, the peace of rite.

If you view it as it happened between 1955 and 1970 every step was logical, and relatively small. The problem is that this change did not stopped for the new rite; and the new mass today in many parishes is far away from the new mass defined in 1970. This is wrong, not the new mass itself.
 
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