My parish gave communion to a pro-choice Catholic

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I guess it’s fine if you want to use qualifiers. I guess it’s fine if the church wants to use qualifiers. And, I guess it’s fine if pro-choice people want to use qualifiers, as well. Personally, I don’t have any problem with using qualifiers.
 
You can. Once you commit a crime society has the right to seek retribution
 
Of course you do know that the Catholic qualifier on capital punishment is a pro-life qualifier?

…Capital punishment being necessary to protect the populice from dangerous people (pro-life) unless there is a way to separate them from society so that they cannot harm anyone else (pro-life).
 
But we have a way to separate a rapist - actually, to separate any criminal - from anyone else. Life in prison.

Don’t misjudge me - I am for the death penalty when the crime is so heinous that nothing else seems just.

Biologically speaking, we know that conception doesn’t take place instantaneously. It takes 48 to 72 hours for the two cells to even find each other in what amounts to a hostile environment. (This is why getting pregnant at all for anyone at any age actually isn’t easy without absolutely perfect timing - the egg itself isn’t even viable for long after 72 hours post-release.) In an emergency department, female rape victims are routinely asked if they would like Plan B. Knowing biology and physiology, and as much pharmacology as I do, it’s highly doubtful that in the immediate aftermath its administration is even an abortifacient. I think this is a poor example since we know that you don’t get pregnant a few minutes after sex.

As for the OP, I actually looked this subject up and read some interesting articles on the subject. This is between the person and God, not us. I’m sure there are plenty of people receiving Communion on a daily basis that have less grace in them than we all believe they should.
 
Melchior_1 said:
Also, when you go to your parish’s designated Reconciliation period every week, you can see who goes often - and you think that even the “familiar” faces don’t go, so what is their current state?
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Those folks may make appointments for confession, to to another parish, it is also possible that some of the folks at your parish are in a spiritual place where they do not commit mortal sins.
 
giuseppe96 said:
I’ve recently discovered that my parish allowed a pro-choice Catholic politician to receive communion a few years ago. This is very disheartening to me as I love this parish and have always admired how traditional and reverent it is. I realize that I might be acting scrupulous, but should I consider changing parishes? Would it be a sin to remain there?
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No. But what might be a sin is assuming you absolutely know the state of grace (or lack there of) of that politician who received the sacrament “a few years ago”…Such judgement is gossip at best, and bearing false witness at worst.

We are called to pull the plank out of our own eye before worrying about the splinter in the eye of our neighbor.

Peace!
 
Wow. I am sorry. I had no idea I had opened Pandora’s box on this one. I did not witness it, but there is photographic evidence of that politician attending Mass at that parish. But because I don’t know the details, I will stop worrying about it.
 
YourNameHere said:
It is not up to us to judge what people do. Only God has that right.
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The Church can hand down the penalty of excommunication, but as far as I know an automatic excommunication is the penalty only for a person who directly procures a completed abortion, but not for someone who is more indirectly associated with this grievous offense against both innocence and life itself.
 
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