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At first we had Ceres and the strange lights (which has become more bizarre the closer Dawn gets to it), now this?..the conditioning process progressing quite nicely.

I know they are saying Kepler has never seen anything like this before, but why would they basically announce this with this kind of headline…kind of strange imo.

If this had been discovered 10 yrs ago, a headline like this would have NEVER been used, they would have never even mentioned ‘extraterrestrial civilization’ in the article…seems to me they are just itching to announce to the world that they have found proof we are not alone…and give organized religion its pink slip.
 
MarcoPolo said:
I think that may be their goal, but they are only thinking wishfully. The Church would probably give the aliens a conditional baptism, as even this Vatican astronomer posited last year. Let em visit. :o
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Hopefully the water used in that baptism would be completely sterilized, because I’m not sure an alien could handle even the slightest exposure to our terrestrial bacteria. :D. Might accidentally kill him. 😊

Fun fact: completely sterile water can remain liquid in temperatures as low as -48°C.
 
mikekle said:
abcnews.go.com/Technology/kepler-space-telescope-mysterious-objects-raise-questions-bizarre/story?id=34494182

At first we had Ceres and the strange lights (which has become more bizarre the closer Dawn gets to it), now this?..the conditioning process progressing quite nicely.

I know they are saying Kepler has never seen anything like this before, but why would they basically announce this with this kind of headline…kind of strange imo.

If this had been discovered 10 yrs ago, a headline like this would have NEVER been used, they would have never even mentioned ‘extraterrestrial civilization’ in the article…seems to me they are just itching to announce to the world that they have found proof we are not alone…and give organized religion its pink slip.
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I shared this poem once before, but forgot where.

Our faith will not get a pink slip if it was proven that there is other life in the universe.

Please read this thoughtful poem:

bartleby.com/236/265.html
 
Why do so many people feel that if aliens are proven to truly exist that that proves God does not exist. Is not God the God of all the Universe? He who created our world then created the alien’s world. Wouldn’t the aliens have some historical record of God just like we do in our Bible. I’m just waiting for the day when all our so called great thinkers finally hear from an alien and the alien says, “yes, we do believe in God, the Creator of the Universe. Don’t you?”. Just to see these great thinkers and nay sayers’ faces will be priceless.
 
C.S. Lewis, a great Christian writer, dealt with the possibility of life elsewhere in the universe in his space science trilogy.

The first book is: “Out of the Silent Planet.”

The second book is named after a fictional planet that is unfallen…“Perelandra”. (Planet Earth is described as the “bent planet”.)

The third book is: “That Hideous Strength”, about the problem of evil.
 
I had read the first two books, and have not as yet read “That Hideous Strength”. The library is too far for me here; I’ll have to ask my grandchildren if anyone has it. 🙂
 
Dorothy said:
I had read the first two books, and have not as yet read “That Hideous Strength”. The library is too far for me here; I’ll have to ask my grandchildren if anyone has it. 🙂
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It is available online as a PDF.

As to aliens, I’ll believe in them when I visually see them.

While their presence would turn human philosophy on its ear, it would not, per se, invalidate religion.

ICXC NIKA
 
Landon_Caeli said:
Hopefully the water used in that baptism would be completely sterilized, because I’m not sure an alien could handle even the slightest exposure to our terrestrial bacteria. :D. Might accidentally kill him. 😊

Fun fact: completely sterile water can remain liquid in temperatures as low as -48°C.
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Not just sterile, but ultra pure.
 
hvizsgyak said:
Why do so many people feel that if aliens are proven to truly exist that that proves God does not exist. Is not God the God of all the Universe? He who created our world then created the alien’s world. Wouldn’t the aliens have some historical record of God just like we do in our Bible. I’m just waiting for the day when all our so called great thinkers finally hear from an alien and the alien says, “yes, we do believe in God, the Creator of the Universe. Don’t you?”. Just to see these great thinkers and nay sayers’ faces will be priceless.
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Its sounds like common sense, if other beings exist out there, God created them as well, thats what I believe, but many people dont make that connection, it doesnt help when we have so much popular media portraying aliens ‘seeding’ the earth long ago, and we are their little experiment. There are even people out there right now that worship aliens as our gods, Ive met plenty of people who truly think we are the product of some advanced civilization.

Ive long believed the enemy (with the help of world Govts of course), will try to deceive mankind, turn him away from God, by fooling many people into thinking some advanced race created our world eons ago, and God was just something we came up with to describe our creators, its really the perfect tool for Satan/ demons…

Hypothetical, lets say in Jan, when they try to find radio waves coming from this area, they find evidence of intelligent activity, and our scientists decide to try and communicate with it, if the question of our origin comes up, What if we get an answer back that they are the ones who actually created earth and have been keeping a watchful eye on us over the years? Millions of people would suddenly see this as fact, Govts as well, you cant tell me, religion as a whole would be safe after an event like that, there would be attacks on the church like never before, there would be calls for religion to ‘overhauled’ due to these new discoveries, as continuing to give credit to some ‘biblical god’ for our creation would be highly offensive to our new found ‘gods’…lets take it a step further, we all know the bible says there will be false prophets, doing all kinds of signs and wonders, even more will be swayed if these new found gods give us some kind of spectacular ‘show’ in the sky, or give us quick solutions to many of mans problems today…see what Im saying? Is this not right up Satans alley?
 
GEddie said:
It is available online as a PDF.

As to aliens, I’ll believe in them when I visually see them.

While their presence would turn human philosophy on its ear, it would not, per se, invalidate religion.

ICXC NIKA
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I agree.
 
I find it interesting, if not amusing, that so many are taking for granted that this is definitive proof of extraterrestrial life. What happened to Occam’s razor? The first couple articles I read about this said that the behavior of the light coming from the star is similar to what you’d see from a young star with a disk of dust and debris around it, but stated that that’s odd because this isn’t a young star. Well, the obvious conclusion must be that it’s a massive alien superstructure!!! It can’t be anything else!!! Except, maybe, dust and debris, but where are the headlines in that?
 
The new version of Battlestar Galactica talked a lot about religion. Not only was it not mocking, it was a major plot point in the show. It was inspired by Mormon theology. The funny thing about that show is the humans were polytheists who believed in the Greek gods (or something like them) and the “robots” were monotheists who believed in one God.
 
Gordon_Sims said:
I find it interesting, if not amusing, that so many are taking for granted that this is definitive proof of extraterrestrial life. What happened to Occam’s razor? The first couple articles I read about this said that the behavior of the light coming from the star is similar to what you’d see from a young star with a disk of dust and debris around it, but stated that that’s odd because this isn’t a young star. Well, the obvious conclusion must be that it’s a massive alien superstructure!!! It can’t be anything else!!! Except, maybe, dust and debris, but where are the headlines in that?
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If you re-read my OP, you will see that I was also surprised the media came out with this idea first, they cant wait for that day when they can make that big statement " we have found proof we are not alone", They are in the ‘conditioning’ phase now, getting everyone used to the idea.

On the other hand, the scientists said this particular thing they saw did not resemble anything they had ever seen before, (they see dust and debris alot), went on to say it actually looked like something an alien civilization would build.

I think its also important to remember, while this article does give a little detail about their find, there is probably more, which was NOT released to the public, this is usually the norm in news stories, they have the info they are comfortable giving to the public and the info they dont want known.
 
Gordon_Sims said:
I find it interesting, if not amusing, that so many are taking for granted that this is definitive proof of extraterrestrial life. What happened to Occam’s razor? The first couple articles I read about this said that the behavior of the light coming from the star is similar to what you’d see from a young star with a disk of dust and debris around it, but stated that that’s odd because this isn’t a young star. Well, the obvious conclusion must be that it’s a massive alien superstructure!!! It can’t be anything else!!! Except, maybe, dust and debris, but where are the headlines in that?
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I certainly do not take it for granted that it is true. My particular responses were directed to those who thought that religion would be a thing of the past if intelligent life is discovered on other planets.
 
J Michael Straczynski is an atheist, and yet as I recall he did not treat religion in any sneering or mocking way in Babylon 5. There may have been the odd character who may have been anti-religious, but I don’t remember the series as a whole taking that tone.
 
Dorothy said:
I certainly do not take it for granted that it is true. My particular responses were directed to those who thought that religion would be a thing of the past if intelligent life is discovered on other planets.
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I see what you are saying, but it really is going to depend on what these intelligent beings believe about creation…Im hopeful they would acknowledge the one true God we worship, but I really have a hard time seeing that happen, I think they would most likely have their own ideas about creation and it would probably not be anything close to what we believe.

What if, at mankinds first contact with an intelligent race, they inform us, the real creators of them (and us) is some ancient super advanced beings…you would be crazy to think that would have no impact on religion.
 
mikekle said:
I see what you are saying, but it really is going to depend on what these intelligent beings believe about creation…Im hopeful they would acknowledge the one true God we worship, but I really have a hard time seeing that happen, I think they would most likely have their own ideas about creation and it would probably not be anything close to what we believe.

What if, at mankinds first contact with an intelligent race, they inform us, the real creators of them (and us) is some ancient super advanced beings…you would be crazy to think that would have no impact on religion.
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If there is life on other plants, I believe that without a doubt they were created by God Almighty, (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) the Prime Mover.
 
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