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Daniel_Marsh
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someone made a statement about mystics here, that I did not understand and I don’t remember exactly what they said.
Any info?
Any info?
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Prayer_Warrior
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Hi Daniel,
That is sort of vague, do you have any more info? This is kind of a broad subject. To my knowledge there are several Saints and Blesseds that are considered to be mystics. A mystic is a person who is given a great grace by the Lord to know Him in a supernatural way. He may communicate to them directly, or He may show them visions of past or future events.
As Catholics we are not bound to believe any private revelations from mystics, though some are very compelling. If a mystic has revealed something that the Lord told them, and it does not conflict with anything the Church teaches, then sometimes the Church will “authorize” their writings. “Authorize” might not be the appropriate word, but I know that the Church does make determinations on private revelations. For example, St. Faustina is a mystic who was given the message of Divine Mercy, and Venerable Anne Emmerich was given visions that led to her writing of the Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ. These are mystics whose visions have been determined by the Church not to be in conflict with Church teaching. The many sightings of the Virgin Mary also go through a rigorous process by the Church (starting at the local level) to determine if it was a supernatural vision or fraud. The seers at Fatima were determined to be the real deal. The seers at that place in Bosnia we are not supposed to discuss have NOT been approved by the Church.
Anyway, these are the sorts of things that I have discussed on the boards. I’m not sure what you are looking for, but I hope this helps.
Blessings, Prayer_Warrior
PS. I still pray for your health.
That is sort of vague, do you have any more info? This is kind of a broad subject. To my knowledge there are several Saints and Blesseds that are considered to be mystics. A mystic is a person who is given a great grace by the Lord to know Him in a supernatural way. He may communicate to them directly, or He may show them visions of past or future events.
As Catholics we are not bound to believe any private revelations from mystics, though some are very compelling. If a mystic has revealed something that the Lord told them, and it does not conflict with anything the Church teaches, then sometimes the Church will “authorize” their writings. “Authorize” might not be the appropriate word, but I know that the Church does make determinations on private revelations. For example, St. Faustina is a mystic who was given the message of Divine Mercy, and Venerable Anne Emmerich was given visions that led to her writing of the Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ. These are mystics whose visions have been determined by the Church not to be in conflict with Church teaching. The many sightings of the Virgin Mary also go through a rigorous process by the Church (starting at the local level) to determine if it was a supernatural vision or fraud. The seers at Fatima were determined to be the real deal. The seers at that place in Bosnia we are not supposed to discuss have NOT been approved by the Church.
Anyway, these are the sorts of things that I have discussed on the boards. I’m not sure what you are looking for, but I hope this helps.
Blessings, Prayer_Warrior
PS. I still pray for your health.
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inthecloud
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Mystics are persons that can live heaven on earth. Some of them get extra dones but some do not.
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puzzleannie
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more accurately, mystics are persons who attain the spiritual condition of union with God while still on Earth, or at least enter the initial stages of that state, through infused contemplation, a gift from God that cannot be forced or attained through any practice of the soul, although one can and should be always open to God’s movement within the soul. Teresa of Jesus and John of the Cross are two well known mystics whose writings are helpful for understanding that state and the spiritual journey in general.
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Coreopisis
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If it is not anything they attain through any practice of the soul they do we know why they get these special gifts?
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puzzleannie
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I said infused contemplation is not a gift that can be induced by any practice (such as centering prayer, saying ohm, TM techniques etc, it is a gift from God). God normally sends this gift to those who are ready for it, on their part by conforming their outward life and interior disposition to his will through obedience ot the commandments, frequrent recourse to Mass and the sacraments, regular prayer, and Christian service. On God’s part the preparation includes his action in the soul through the graces of the sacraments, primary among them being the Eucharist, source of all sacramental grace, and through the trials he allows the soul to endure which can by physical, mental or spiritual. The Ascent of Mt Carmel describes in poetic terms the beginning of the spiritual journey and its stages, the Dark Night, also by John of the Cross, describes the latter states and approach to union with God and the place of mental prayer, and infused contemplation, in that journey.
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hope_7
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there is a differance between being inward and outward. It is not untill we find Christ within us do we begin in the journey of a mystic. Where there is only Jesus just Jesus and nothing else.
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