N.C. police pepper spray black teen in his own home

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exnihilo said:
The ironic thing is the house was broken into, by the police. What right do the police have to just enter a home? The neighbor reported a break in, not the home owner. What facts supported this? A lot of bad things happen because the police can take what is essentially an unverified assertion from a caller on the phone as the truth.

If someone broke into my home I’d have at least that level of reaction. Of course in the American police state the police can do anything they want and you must be obsequious. The moment you aren’t you will be assaulted.
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OK but here’s the issue. I don’t see where the police broke into a home. I read there were burglaries in the area, a call was made, police responded. Then the story moves on to inside the home. Maybe the front door was wide open? Or we don’t know?
 
*Responding to a neighbor’s report of a break-in, police in the suburban Raleigh town of Fuquay-Varina said they used pepper spray Monday when 18-year-old DeShawn Currie “became profane, threatening and belligerent” and “refused to follow instructions” from officers.

Currie told ABC affiliate WTVD in Raleigh he became angry when three officers showed up inside the home and noted that he was not included in family photos on a mantle.

“They was like, ‘Put your hands on the door,’” DeShawn told the television station. “I was like, ‘For what? This is my house.’ I was like, ‘Why are y’all in here?’”
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  1. Police make mistakes.
  2. If police were to come in my home thinking that I was a burglar, I would cooperate fully with their instructions, until such a time can present itself when I can explain things.
  3. If nothing else, the OC spray should have corrected his improper use of the English language!
 
GaryTaylor said:
OK but here’s the issue. I don’t see where the police broke into a home. I read there were burglaries in the area, a call was made, police responded. Then the story moves on to inside the home. Maybe the front door was wide open? Or we don’t know?
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If anyone did break into the house it was the police. Did the police have permission to be in the house? I doubt it. If anyone else is in a home uninvited that is a crime. It doesn’t matter if the door is open or not.

According to the article some ‘neighbor’ called to report something. But what exactly did the neighbor see that amounted to a crime? We don’t know that as it was not reported but I highly doubt what he saw amounted to much evidence of a crime since the kid lived there.
 
punisherthunder said:
*Responding to a neighbor’s report of a break-in, police in the suburban Raleigh town of Fuquay-Varina said they used pepper spray Monday when 18-year-old DeShawn Currie “became profane, threatening and belligerent” and “refused to follow instructions” from officers.

Currie told ABC affiliate WTVD in Raleigh he became angry when three officers showed up inside the home and noted that he was not included in family photos on a mantle.

“They was like, ‘Put your hands on the door,’” DeShawn told the television station. “I was like, ‘For what? This is my house.’ I was like, ‘Why are y’all in here?’”
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  1. Police make mistakes.
  2. If police were to come in my home thinking that I was a burglar, I would cooperate fully with their instructions, until such a time can present itself when I can explain things.
  3. If nothing else, the OC spray should have corrected his improper use of the English language!
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Police make mistakes…? …and homeowners and their family have no right to question police who they find strolling around room to room? :confused:

Sorry, but the police should never be obligated to enter a home based on what a phone message tells them. What if the phone call is a set-up or a prank?
 
I had the police walk into my home once, when my young daughter was playing on the phone and called 911. I fell asleep on the couch, and was woken up by cops yelling at me acting rude and asking me all kinds of stupid questions… I told them they shouldnt be in my house and thats when they started swearing at me in front of my daughter. They split us up and began questioning her…

They had no business entering my home. The police should never be obligated to enter a home without being let in unless there is some kind of ‘list’ that people choose to be on that waives that right.
 
While I am saddened by what happened, I don’t have all the facts so I can’t really make a judgment.
 
TEPO said:
I had the police walk into my home once, when my young daughter was playing on the phone and called 911. I fell asleep on the couch, and was woken up by cops yelling at me acting rude and asking me all kinds of stupid questions… I told them they shouldnt be in my house and thats when they started swearing at me in front of my daughter. They split us up and began questioning her…

They had no business entering my home. The police should never be obligated to enter a home without being let in unless there is some kind of ‘list’ that people choose to be on that waives that right.
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Sounds like Iraq.
 
TEPO said:
Police make mistakes…? …and homeowners and their family have no right to question police who they find strolling around room to room? :confused:

Sorry, but the police should never be obligated to enter a home based on what a phone message tells them. What if the phone call is a set-up or a prank?
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Exactly. Someone calls and says that there’s a crime being committed in a house somewhere, you’re saying the police have no obligation to investigate?
 
punisherthunder said:
Exactly. Someone calls and says that there’s a crime being committed in a house somewhere, you’re saying the police have no obligation to investigate?
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They have no business entering a home even if there are no doors or even walls unless they see or hear someone calling to them for help. Period. Otherwise it is considered a home invasion by a police officer. A home invasion, no matter what the intent, is a crime punishable by the law. Police officers are not excused from the law.
 
My only problem with this case is that the radical racist media continues to spread their race hate. By pointing out the officers as “white” perpetrators. Anti-white racism continues to be a growing problem in the United States.
 
punisherthunder said:
Exactly. Someone calls and says that there’s a crime being committed in a house somewhere, you’re saying the police have no obligation to investigate?
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Legally speaking the police have no obligation. The courts have consistently ruled the police have no obligation to protect you except in very limited circumstances e.g. when you are under their control i.e. you have been arrested. They certainly have no obligation to investigate a crime. That is the problem. The police have lots of license, but no obligations. The system has evolved to the place we are at now. The current state of affairs is certainly not necessary to maintain law and order.
 
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