Name something weird you heard in a homily

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one priest said, @ Mass, it doesn’t matter if you are Catholic or Baptist or Methodist…

I’m thinking… “Okay… then what are we doing here??”

and more particularly “What are YOU doing… being a priest??”

Hellllooooooo!!! :whacky:
 
was it supposed to be a joke??

Actually that is not one of the 10 Commandments…

But is kind of interesting because we ARE supposed to do all that the Word tells us… I don’t have a problem with religious celibacy (practice it myself:hypno: :ouch: :rolleyes: )… but i could see where some Protestnat would bring this up as an argument against it…

The best argument in favor of lifelong celibacy (for me) is:

Men and women don’t relate well together… (they really do seem to be from different planets):whacky: :banghead:
I think it was meant to be funny and also to get us to think. Actually priests and nuns today are not multiplying and increasing…hence breaking this ‘commandment’ to increase and multiply - all depends on one’s perspective on the statement, most did take it as the procreation factor and priestly and religious celibacy.no the"increase and mulitiply and fill the earth" was not one of the 10 commandments - comes much earlier and in the creation story. Of interest perhaps, most came away from that weekday Mass appalled at what Father had said. Overall Father’s purpose was achieved, he got the parish thinking (as the statement spread further than those who attended that weekday Mass).

There are many arguments or reasons for the case for celibacy. A practical one is that one’s whole focus is on Jesus and The Gospel and one is free (insofar as one has one’s freedom, or rather it is gifted by The Lord) to move, if celibate, in any direction whatsoever the Gospel and The Lord may ask.

Blessings and regards…Barb:)
 
that Mary was the midwife for Elizabeth when she went to visit her during her pregnancy
 
that Mary was the midwife for Elizabeth when she went to visit her during her pregnancy
Hi V41…quite unsure if your post above is connected to mine in any way although I very much doubt it. But what a fascinating concept that Mary was midwife for Elizabeth! The feastday of St. John’s beheading is coming close and he is a saint that for years I could develop no real devotion towards, but when all did click into place, it sure did so very soundly to my profit. Now I have something new to ponder with Our Lady having possibly helped bring St. John into the word. It does rather explain why Our Lady did in her own pregnant state go off to visit Elizabeth. Thank you:thumbsup: …regards…barb:)
 
often, at funerals, the priest will imply that the deceased is already in Heaven… making not one mention of Purgatory
**Why should he…

Fact is, that any person who dies, sees God right away. We might conclude that out of Jesus word to the crucified at His right, when He said:
“yet today you will be with me at my Fathers”
This criminal was promised heaven, because he confessed at the end of his life and he believed in Jesus Christ as Son of God.

It’s up to God now, if He sends this person to purgatory first for such long - not up to us to judge.
So why should the priest mention purgatory and shock the surviving dependants, who at this point need consolation and words of comfort they deserve.
Christianity is a religion of joy and delight. Not one of menace
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**Why should he…

Fact is, that any person who dies, sees God right away. We might conclude that out of Jesus word to the crucified at His right, when He said:
“yet today you will be with me at my Fathers”
This criminal was promised heaven, because he confessed at the end of his life and he believed in Jesus Christ as Son of God.

It’s up to God now, if He sends this person to purgatory first for such long - not up to us to judge.
So why should the priest mention purgatory and shock the surviving dependants, who at this point need consolation and words of comfort they deserve.
Christianity is a religion of joy and delight. Not one of menace
**
well, if truth shocks one… maybe one needs to be shocked…
 
well, if truth shocks one… maybe one needs to be shocked…
**Did you ever imagine what it would mean, when the priest instead of the healing and stabilizing words of Jesus, would tell the surviving dependants of purgatory where the deceased no is in the priests opinion?

How on earth should a priest know for sure, where this person is now?

Even when this person is in purgatory now, he or she has seen God and knows, he will be in heaven with God in eternity in foreseeable time.
The truth – no one but God knows the truth about the present whereabout of this soul.
So, why should a priest announce his opinion in absence of knowable truth…
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**Did you ever imagine what it would mean, when the priest instead of the healing and stabilizing words of Jesus, would tell the surviving dependants of purgatory where the deceased no is in the priests opinion?

How on earth should a priest know for sure, where this person is now?

Even when this person is in purgatory now, he or she has seen God and knows, he will be in heaven with God in eternity in foreseeable time.
The truth – no one but God knows the truth about the present whereabout of this soul.
So, why should a priest announce his opinion in absence of knowable truth…
**
dont put words in my mouth…

A priest should not say that a person is in Heaven… because he does not knw (as you say)…

That is what i have a problem with… The person could be frying in Hell for all anyone knows… and then if the family gets the priest’s opinion the person is in Heaven when not, they ,may think they are doing everything OK themselves… no need to change, we wil get There…

That is a violation of Truth…
 
That is a violation of Truth…
**Truly a loud NO!

Hell. That’s quite another thing than purgatory we where talking about. Hell, that’s where a person will be who is an absolute criminal and did wrong at the outmost. Such person will hardly have a priest at his funeral and if so, the priest would surely not talk of heaven but recommend the person to the mercy of God.

But now imagine, a parent dies. His or her Child is at the funeral and hears; his mom or dad will be in purgatory now.
No! That would be cruelty to the child and a terrible sin itself!
**
 
Once, just after 911, the priest invited a Muslim professor to give the homily. He kept saying that Muslims are really good people.
Then he left (after a standing ovation, and my family, sitting with our jaws open in disbelief). He didn’t even stay for the Consecration. This same priest was later implicated in the scandals.
 
This morning, we heard about the enneagram, Ghandi and Hitler.
we have had the enneagram, but I have tried to speak out against it and have the Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Culture and Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, Jesus Christ, the Bearer of the Water of Life, as a back up. It is bearly enough, but has kept it at bay for now.
 
**Truly a loud NO!

Hell. That’s quite another thing than purgatory we where talking about. Hell, that’s where a person will be who is an absolute criminal and did wrong at the outmost. Such person will hardly have a priest at his funeral and if so, the priest would surely not talk of heaven but recommend the person to the mercy of God.

But now imagine, a parent dies. His or her Child is at the funeral and hears; his mom or dad will be in purgatory now.
No! That would be cruelty to the child and a terrible sin itself!
**
It depends what disposition the child has. If he is careless about his faith (or has the seeds of such carelessness, being only a child), then it may be a sobering thought which may bear good fruit later on.

I personally think that funerals should not be about celebrating a person’s entry into heaven, because we simply do not know where they are. I equate purgatory with heaven, here, because ultimately they refer to the same end. There should be much talk of God’s mercy, but no assurances that a person is in heaven. Many Catholic funerals are for people who no longer went to Mass and many of those who attend are not regular Mass goers. I think there should be a sobering reminder of Church teaching here for the sake of those present, not to presume upon God’s mercy. To do so is, after all, the sin of presumption when a person is not a practicing Catholic.
 
At my wedding Mass, the priest made a comment that the first marriage God officiated at was between Adam and EVE not Adam and STEVE and then went on for another five minutes about the disorderedness of homosexuality…the non-Catholics in the audience were kinda like “huh?” But he got back on track. I thot it was just funny, and the poor old guy didn’t last much longer after that so we were privileged to have him!
 
I personally think that funerals should not be about celebrating a person’s entry into heaven, because we simply do not know where they are
if we don’t know, we are allowed to presume for the better

**Well – mightbe we shouldn’t particularly celebrate entry in heaven itself. To die however, means to enter he hemisphere of God. This is celebration itself. The entry into eternal life. One must have been VERY bad indeed to got to hell. We never can tell how God judges. Plus we ought to see our failures instead of those of others.
We might well “celebrate” (we don’t really celebrate as most of us are very sad) this persons arriving at Gods hemisphere – even when he or we ourselves, won’t get right into heaven.
We can not make Death a fearful thing with shocking consequences after, but instead a hopeful thing with all the joy God holds for those, who believed in Him.
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It depends what disposition the child has. If he is careless about his faith (or has the seeds of such carelessness, being only a child), then it may be a sobering thought which may bear good fruit later on.

I personally think that funerals should not be about celebrating a person’s entry into heaven, because we simply do not know where they are. I equate purgatory with heaven, here, because ultimately they refer to the same end. There should be much talk of God’s mercy, but no assurances that a person is in heaven. Many Catholic funerals are for people who no longer went to Mass and many of those who attend are not regular Mass goers. I think there should be a sobering reminder of Church teaching here for the sake of those present, not to presume upon God’s mercy. To do so is, after all, the sin of presumption when a person is not a practicing Catholic.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. There is much presumption of God’s mercy nowadays, and that is dangerous. I disagree with the previous post about it being a sin to tell children their parent is in purgatory. My husband died last year, and since he didn’t exhibit the heroic virtue of a saint with a capital “S,” I think it’s fair to assume that he probably didn’t go straight to heaven but needed some purification. I explained that to our children, and they weren’t traumatized by it – my goodness, purgatory exists because of God’s mercy!
 
sorry to hear about your husband 😦
Imy goodness, purgatory exists because of God’s mercy!
of course it does! As does teaching on hell. If there were a busy road outside your house you wouldn’t keep it from your children because it might scare them! I didn’t want to discuss this further because it is not a thread for such discussions, so I will leave it at that!
 
How about starting Mass on Good Friday with a joke? :eek:

May St. Cure d’Ars pray for our shepherds.

:blessyou:
 
How about starting Mass on Good Friday with a joke? :eek:

May St. Cure d’Ars pray for our shepherds.

:blessyou:
very inappropriate. i have seen fulton sheen many times on the television and youtube preaching and he always makes jokes about things, however the only time i have heard him not make any humourous remarks was when he was preaching on Good Friday. jokes are fine as long as they have a point but not on a day when we remember the Lord’s death.
 
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