Name something weird you heard in a homily

[Bruno_Schulz]

well, if truth shocks one… maybe one needs to be shocked…

**Shocks us?
But why?
Well, yes, even very very delightful things are liable to “shock” us. We know (1 Cor 2:9), that heaven is a way of living, no eye ever has seen, no ear ever has heard. So in a ever so delightful way, we will be “shocked” yes.

As far as sermon is concerned. Yes, I believe strongly, that even today priests ought to “shock” us – telling the truth of God.

Most of us, when not “shocked” will just go on living as usual. That means not REALLY caring about the reality of God, and the reality of our further life in this reality of God.

Some people are afraid of telling theyr kids the truth about what happens, if the child carelessly runs across the road. The child will die. They don’t tell, for they don’t want to shock the child. Which is very careless.

Believe and faith is a matter of strict consequences too – in fact to the extend of TO LIVE OR NOT TO LIVE, which here really is the question.

We are not shocked when we hear, that we won’t live (survive) when we cross the railroad on closed on closed gates. So why should we be shocked when we hear that we won’t live when we didn’t care about Gods reality, and put our earthly life above all?!**

 

[SacredHeartFan]

well one time a priest told us that Jesus and the apostales were alcoholics.
i guess they could have been with all that wine but seriously…

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

well one time a priest told us that Jesus and the apostales were alcoholics.
i guess they could have been with all that wine but seriously…

there are some idiots among the priests too. Nobody but an idiot could tell such nonsense.
At the same time you might say, anybody crossing a road would be a suicide

 

[distracted]

**Truly a loud NO!

Hell. That’s quite another thing than purgatory we where talking about. Hell, that’s where a person will be who is an absolute criminal and did wrong at the outmost. Such person will hardly have a priest at his funeral and if so, the priest would surely not talk of heaven but recommend the person to the mercy of God.

But now imagine, a parent dies. His or her Child is at the funeral and hears; his mom or dad will be in purgatory now.
No! That would be cruelty to the child and a terrible sin itself!
**

a priest should not say one way or the other where a person is…

 

[distracted]

Once, just after 911, the priest invited a Muslim professor to give the homily. He kept saying that Muslims are really good people.
Then he left (after a standing ovation, and my family, sitting with our jaws open in disbelief). He didn’t even stay for the Consecration. This same priest was later implicated in the scandals.

only a priest or deacon gives a homily… so the congregation should have known right then & there something was OFF…

but Catholics are not taught these kinds of things… the rubrics of the Mass…

The Church in America has been and continues to be Protestantized…

 

[distracted]

At my wedding Mass, the priest made a comment that the first marriage God officiated at was between Adam and EVE not Adam and STEVE and then went on for another five minutes about the disorderedness of homosexuality…the non-Catholics in the audience were kinda like “huh?” But he got back on track. I thot it was just funny, and the poor old guy didn’t last much longer after that so we were privileged to have him!

i would love to have this priest in my parish… (i hesitate to say why i would gladly trade him for the one we have… )

 

[distracted]

One must have been VERY bad indeed to got to hell.

apparently NOT…

(define “bad”)…

Jesus said that very few make it… onto that “narrow” pathway to heaven… He said that many would try to get into Heaven but would not “be able”… that even after doing “mighty deeds” He will say to some, “away from me, you evildoers…”

 

[distracted]

very inappropriate. i have seen fulton sheen many times on the television and youtube preaching and he always makes jokes about things, however the only time i have heard him not make any humourous remarks was when he was preaching on Good Friday. jokes are fine as long as they have a point but not on a day when we remember the Lord’s death.

i didn’t get the joke anyway… did you?

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

a priest should not say one way or the other where a person is…

**precisely, as I said before, as we hardly ever know.
However - this person saw God when he was judged.
What way this soul will go… - it’s to us to judge.
Let’s try hard to walk on Jesus way and care about ours. We’ll anyway be surprised whom we’ll meet “then”
**

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

=SacredHeartFan: one time a priest told us that Jesus and the apostales were alcoholics.
i guess they could have been with all that wine but seriously…

could it be after all, that this priest didn’t say so, but he quoted Jesus when Jesus said in Mt 11:19: The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and “sinners.” ’ But wisdom is proved right by her actions."

 

[distracted]

**precisely, as I said before, as we hardly ever know.
However - Let’s try hard to walk on Jesus way and care about ours. We’ll anyway be surprised whom we’ll meet “then”
**

the only problem is: It is hard to do some of the things Jesus says to do… How do we (for example) really love someone? Our idea of “love” and God’s are often 2 different things…

just wondering…

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

Our idea of “love” and God’s are often 2 different things

**You are right. We love our son/daughter/wife more, than our fellows at work or in the parish. That’s normal though that’s a different kind of love (whereas I like to point out, that sex mostly very little to nothing has to do with love; often rather is the opposite).

But still. I myself might be not quite as much, but my wife in any case, REALLY LOVES anybody she meets – just as mother Teresa did.

Those Mother Teresa gave love (which was anyone she met) quite often did not return that love. Mother Teresa still gave them her love, as we are told by Jesus. Let’s do alike, and we will find that love comes back.

But what I however learned from my wife, is never never to give a harsh word I received, back to those who spoke in that unfriendly way.
One sample: In fact, there’s a guy in one of my clubs, who kept insulting me. I never returned the same way, but gave him friendly words. Today this guy is ever so friendly.
It actually works. Both ways. We ourselves get cheerier :dancing:
It’s the simple advices from the Holy Bible that give us that success :extrahappy:
**

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

It is hard to do some of the things Jesus says to do.

**Is it really hard? Well, I admit to have said so too once in a while. I heard this word in a homily too and found this weird, when said by a priest, as this makes people unsure and makes it easy finding excuses not to do as Jesus told us to.

In fact it’s little Jesus asks us to do and it cumulates in His order to love each other as He loved us. That’s not so hard at all, for given love will mostly come back. The rare cases it doesn’t don’t count, or we made a mistake.

The godly scribes often asked Jesus what He thought they must do to reach eternal life in Gods kingdom. And what did Jesus do? He answered more often than not with the script; the Old Testament, which was the Bible of Jesus. In Luke 10:25-28 a savant tried to deceive Jesus with the mentioned question, and Jesus asked this authority: “What is written in the Law? How do you read it?”
So this expert in the law recited: “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind; and - Love your neighbour as yourself.”

So Jesus replied: “You have answered correctly. Do this and you will live.”

Isn’t that quite simple to do or fullfill?

Of course, just like we would have done, the scholar went on asking Jesus and added: “And who is my neighbour?”

Now Jesus abashed this narrow minded, with the parable of the good Samaritan.

We know who’s our neighbour. EVERYONE we meet, the weak, the poor, the family next door, the person we meet in the subway. All they might be a lot greater than we - in the eye of God.
**

 

[Ceil-1]

Our local Byzantine priest says that Catholics don’t go to hell for our sins, we go because of our bitterness, resentment, lack of forgiveness and lack of love.

I think we do well to force ourselves to love with no thought of ourselves. People of the world think that is dysfunctional.

I believe that sincerely nice people who, perhaps, doubt religion, but otherwise live their lives the way they should will get in before these religous, pious types who think they are in because they go to the right Mass and sing in chant, but treat those who don’t as if they are chopped liver.

I bellieve religion is supposed to foster love, not necessarily be an end to itself. Of course the Church is married to the personification of love, so I’m sticking to it. I hope I am being clear.

 

[distracted]

**In fact it’s little Jesus asks us to do and it cumulates in His order to love each other as He loved us. That’s not so hard at all, for given love will mostly come back. The rare cases it doesn’t don’t count, or we made a mistake. ** I disagree… I love people - I try to love them the "right way" (meaning: not just being super “nice” to them, letting them walk all over me…) but it seems people don’t want to be loved that way…
So anyway… For my efforts, i am “hated by all” (as Jesus said i would be). I am hated because i am truly Catholic (try to be)… and the world hates Catholics (real ones). Loving others is not as easy or simple as it sounds. I mean, what does it even mean? People rarely define what Christian love entails - other than doing charity work. I love others by warning them about Purg & Hell (etc)… and many don’t seem to think that’s very loving… yet isn’t that the most important thing - to get people on the pathway that leads to life with God rather than life with the evil one and all his demons? Hell is forever… (as you know…)… [see St. Faustina’s Diary #741]. Anyway, i get little thanks for my efforts most of the time… but oh well… (i tell myself)… Look at the thanks Jesus got…

 

[distracted]

I bellieve religion is supposed to foster love, not necessarily be an end to itself. Of course the Church is married to the personification of love, so I’m sticking to it. I hope I am being clear.

Please read Post #74 here… (so i don’t have to repeat myself :hypno: I guess there’s a way to paste a message from one place to another but i don’t know how to do that…)…

Basically, i find it difficult to love others… the way i feel I should… I feel i should be warning them about Hell… and i do… and thye hate me for it… Yet i feel that is the most loving thing i can do for them…

God bless…

 

[PJM]

**Shocks us?
But why?
Well, yes, even very very delightful things are liable to “shock” us. We know (1 Cor 2:9), that heaven is a way of living, no eye ever has seen, no ear ever has heard. So in a ever so delightful way, we will be “shocked” yes.

As far as sermon is concerned. Yes, I believe strongly, that even today priests ought to “shock” us – telling the truth of God.

happens, if the child carelessly runs across the road. The child will die. They don’t tell, for they don’t want to shock the child. Which is very careless.

Believe and faith is a matter of strict consequences too – in fact to the extend of TO LIVE OR NOT TO LIVE, which here really is the question.

We are not shocked when we hear, that we won’t live (survive) when we cross the railroad on closed on closed gates. So why should we be shocked when we hear that we won’t live when we didn’t care about Gods reality, and put our earthly life above all?!**

 

[jofa]

I was living in AZ at the time, had 3 kids in diapers, one older, was overwhelmed and very lucky when I could get to mass on Sunday. One day I had the blessed opportunity to go to daily mass. I was still exhausted, but desperate to have the chance to go without the little ones and have some quiet contemplative time with our Lord.
Well, during the homily the priest (whom I didn’t know) walked down the aisle and started asking all the little old ladies if they thought Jesus really, literally, walked on water (that day’s reading). Thank God most of them nodded, as did I. Then he went on to correct all of us. According to him, the story is figurative representing this and that, etc. Now, keeping in mind my state of sleep depravation and the spiritual starvation I had been experiencing, I’ll hope y’all forgive me when I tell you what I did…I stood up and said “No, Jesus DID actually walk on water”. He was surprised, and all the white haired ladies turned to look at me. All I could think about was how this flock was being misled. It broke my heart. The priest argued with me telling me I was mistaken. I explained that I was a Catholic Theology graduate of a truly Catholic University. I explained to everyone that what he was claiming was not Church teaching, and then exclaimed “This isn’t a Catholic Mass!” and stormed out. I cried in the parking lot for a while. What a tragedy. (Oh, and I repented for any unintended sin in doing what I did because I wasn’t sure if it was right in God’s view).

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

I’ll hope y’all forgive me when I tell you what I did…I stood up and said “No, Jesus DID actually walk on water”. He was surprised, and all the white haired ladies turned to look at me.

**Let’s hope, we all are as brave to speak up for God like you did!
Thanks for doing so!
The world seems not to stand a God who isn’t as we are :dts: **

 

[OutinChgoburbs]

i have heard many things that sounded odd…

One thing that bothers me is how, often, at funerals, the priest will say things in the homily that tend to imply that the deceased is already in Heaven… making not one mention of Purgatory - seemingly because there are Protestants in the congregation (?)…

Why are some priests so eager to please Protestants, even at the expense of Truth???

I am just curious about what is going on in other parishes…

I’m glad they finally highlighted this thread inthe “warm up” screen.

The weirdest thing I ever heard in a homily, all in ONE homily, was that Ghandi’s opinion should be considered in light of Catholic teaching, and that if we practiced what Ghandi taught, we would not be killing Hezzbollah (as if we were), but stopping, reaching out to them and raising their children as our own; that the Berrigans taught authentic, orthodox Catholic doctrine and practice; and analogies comparing race car driving to the practice of one’s Faith.

After much thought and other incidents, I sent the bishop a letter. I have not been back to that parish. I hear the priest in question has gotten much more in line with Church teaching, and does not mention his race car any more.