Name the worst movies ever made

[holy_moly]

Some of the best times are spent watching bad movies with friends and making fun of them. I can remember one movie, I forget the title, but it was about a vietnam war vet named Bob, who came back to his town and reconnected with old friends. Not all was right with old Bob. He needed to eat people to keep himself from decaying. He wore sunglasses to hide the fact that he was losing bits and pieces. For some reason, none of his friends seemed to notice. And the dialogue was hilarious.

Blazing Saddles is one such movie. Highy corny, yet produces spontaneous laughter & gas. I doubt tho that the biggotry would w/stand todays PC police

 

[sauce]

I don’t think watching a movie that may contain violence or whatever else is helping Satan to take over us…

We are intellingent people who should be able to watch something objectively and make our decisions without taking a piece of fiction too seriously… A very clever teacher of mine was able to deliever a moral from almost every movie we suggested, so rather than think of watching these movies as wrong, we should apply our values to them to see how skewed they are…

The main danger IMO is how movies and tv can impact on people who are not yet able to view it like this - in particular children and even teenagers.

My main issue is not with violence or with sex but the integration of these two so that people start to connect them, or teenagers form a subconscious acceptablility to violence within relationships.

Some good points there. This conversation is seriously bordering on a definition or recognition of “art.”

It takes a lot to make a film. Art is artificial. Until we “frame” something it isn’t art.
Some people do it better than others. So many disciplines go into creating art.
Film is an art form. So, depending on the idea of the artist, the sensitivity with which he or she expresses themselves is so involved. Some people are “gifted.” Some are not.
And I think most can agree that not everything is “art.” Sometimes you hit pay dirt, and
sometimes you don’t. Having said that little bit, I still have to go back to
“Valley of the Dolls.” It’s so badly made, it’s camp. And Patty Duke is a riot.

And “Inside Daisy Clover” is quite a failure, too. You probably can’t find it now.
Kind of has a saran wrap feel to it.

So to my mind I think Sliver was a terrible movie as the main character is attacked and then seems to start enjoying whats happening to her???!? And then for it not to be given an 18+ rating or refuse classification is incomprehensible to me.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

So I can kick him in the nuts when he gets close enough.

Seriously, the most profound stories I’ve found to have a fair amount of violence, suggestive themes, swearing, or even a fair mix of both.

Still if you’re comfortable watching fluffy Disney fairy tales then I won’t stop ya.

This is patently untrue. Why continue to promote dirty language and glorify violence?

Disney has been taken over by Satan’s cheering squad as well. They mock virginity, promote bad behavior, and urge their viewers to fall prey to green marxism.

What do you hope to gain by mocking decency?

This culture has given itself over to Satan willingly and completely. They do not even understand the difference. I see very little hope.

 

[distracted]

Correct. Look at Tale of Two Cities which was made in 1935(?) starring Ronald Coleman and Basil Rathbone. There were fights, battle scenes during the French Revolution, a murder, execution by guillotine and, of course, a love story. These were elements that were needed to tell a great story. Yet violence was not gratuitous nor was it graphic. They did not need to have a sex scene to show that two people were in love or that one character was a lout.

(By the way, this is one of my all-time favorite movies.)

The use of graphic images in modern entertainment is meant to curry to most prurient interests and, therefore, do **not **constitute art.

is that
Tale of Two Cities is about? the Fr Rev?

i may watch it… on your recommendation…

yes, they knew how to make movies in the old days…

thanks for the recommend…

 

[distracted]

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We beg to not. Satan is already after us tooth and nail; why help him along?

:clapping:

 

[distracted]

It wasn’t bady made, but pure propaganda about an idealistic youth (spiderman dude) learning to be doctor from Michael Cain who runs an orphanage and is also an abortionist. The youth is first appalled when he finds out what the old doctor is doing. But eventually sees the light.

*yuck… *

 

[distracted]

I don’t think watching a movie that may contain violence or whatever else is helping Satan to take over us…

We are intellingent people who should be able to watch something objectively and make our decisions without taking a piece of fiction too seriously…

I’m as “intelligent” as most, more so than some… i dare say

and i disagree… I’ve found that things i watch affect me… and they can distance you from Christ… and i never really KNOW how distanced i am until i do something like pray the rosary or go to Church…

so if a person is going to watch this icky, trashy cr** … ***at least do something like that afterwards… immediately afterwards… ***Warning: You probably won’t WANT to, though…

because you will be in “worldly mode”…

 

[distracted]

This is patently untrue. Why continue to promote dirty language and glorify violence?

Disney has been taken over by Satan’s cheering squad as well. They mock virginity, promote bad behavior, and urge their viewers to fall prey to green marxism.

What do you hope to gain by mocking decency?

This culture has given itself over to Satan willingly and completely. They do not even understand the difference. I see very little hope.

well, Jesus said that few find that narrow road to salvation… that many will try to get into Heaven but won’t be strong enoguh (Luke)…

I guess They think they can pollute themselves with any kind of ungodly, vile, perverted stuff & then still be pure enough to get into Heaven…

hmmmm…

if that sounds like massive incongruity…

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

This is patently untrue. Why continue to promote dirty language and glorify violence?

Cuz it adds to the atmosphere. I like movies that are dark and realistic (e.g. The Dark Knight, Daredevil, Sleepy Hollow) because their settings have a mystical feeling of the real to them that amplifies their stories.

However, if you wanna watch an overly sugary Care Bears movie, I won’t stop ya. Just don’t think badly of those who are a little bit more mature in their tastes.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

“Manos” was directed by a guy who owned a cement factory in Texas, so I think that says a lot there… But ooh yeah… this film would be unbearable were it not for the MST3K gang having their way with it…

So true. And the Love Theme From Manos: “Don’t forget… the silly way we met…”

Which has NOTHING to do with the film whatever.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

Cuz it adds to the atmosphere. I like movies that are dark and realistic (e.g. The Dark Knight, Daredevil, Sleepy Hollow) because their settings have a mystical feeling of the real to them that amplifies their stories.

However, if you wanna watch an overly sugary Care Bears movie, I won’t stop ya. Just don’t think badly of those who are a little bit more mature in their tastes.

Can you really be serious when you insult decency and glorify filth?

We are ALL called to be saints. What are you doing to help yourself to that goal?

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Can you really be serious when you insult decency and glorify filth?

We are ALL called to be saints. What are you doing to help yourself to that goal?

By decency you mean the heavily edited and censored (a.k.a. butchered) or simply the overly sugary and fluffy (a.k.a. childish)?

Either way, I’ll stick with something that has more literary value thanks. I grew up for that. Even the original Little Mermaid and Peter Pan were a lot darker than what good 'ol Walt would’ve wanted you to admit.

And just cuz I ain’t planning on getting myself canonized don’t mean I’m some amoral dirt bag. I just don’t like living in a bubble is all.

 

[rpp]

By decency you mean the heavily edited and censored (a.k.a. butchered) or simply the overly sugary and fluffy (a.k.a. childish)?

Either way, I’ll stick with something that has more literary value thanks. I grew up for that. Even the original Little Mermaid and Peter Pan were a lot darker than what good 'ol Walt would’ve wanted you to admit.

And just cuz I ain’t planning on getting myself canonized don’t mean I’m some amoral dirt bag. I just don’t like living in a bubble is all.

You seem to be utterly unable to get it. There is no need for graphic violence or sexual suggestiveness to tell a story. When a person is exposed to this, they become jaded and numbed to the deleterious effects these images and themes project. Your responses are PROOF that this is correct.

Your signature says you are a “learning Catholic”. Perhaps you should start listening and learning on this. The Catholic Faith is not just about what you do on Sunday morning.

 

[Nyarlathotep]

You seem to be utterly unable to get it. There is no need for graphic violence or sexual suggestiveness to tell a story. When a person is exposed to this, they become jaded and numbed to the deleterious effects these images and themes project. Your responses are PROOF that this is correct.

Your signature says you are a “learning Catholic”. Perhaps you should start listening and learning on this. The Catholic Faith is not just about what you do on Sunday morning.

Seems to me that the peaceful level-headed folk here are the ones who don’t mind a little sex & violence in their art, and that the censors are the ones getting all bent out of shape and resorting to ad hominem or tu quoque in their posts. I thought fleeing from impure artwork is supposed to make one more serene, no? My experience in the world tells me no.

Anyhoo, I saw “Inglourious Basterds” last weekend and absolutely loved it – violence and all. didn’t make me homicidal. Now, sitting through BBC’s mini-series of “Sense and Sensibility” – that occasioned homi/suicidal thoughts.

– N.

 

[holy_moly]

You seem to be utterly unable to get it. There is no need for graphic violence or sexual suggestiveness to tell a story. When a person is exposed to this, they become jaded and numbed to the deleterious effects these images and themes project. Your responses are PROOF that this is correct.

Your signature says you are a “learning Catholic”. Perhaps you should start listening and learning on this. The Catholic Faith is not just about what you do on Sunday morning.

Any thoughts then on “The Passion of Christ”, or Clint’s latest “Grand Torino”?

 

[jmcrae]

Any thoughts then on “The Passion of Christ”, or Clint’s latest “Grand Torino”?

Apocalypto* is also a great movie with a strong moral message - and definitely not for the lollipop crowd.

 

[jmcrae]

It is possible to make a good movie with a strong message, without resorting to violence and sexuality, as long as the characters in the story are neither passionate nor sexual.

Neverland was really good, and I don’t remember anything more than hints of romance, in that one - and certainly, there was no violence.

However, a lot of the really great stories do contain violence - David and Goliath, Joshua and the Battle of Jericho, Noah’s Ark, and even Sleeping Beauty, all contain violence as integral elements of the story. It would be difficult to portray them realistically, without showing at least some blood. Even The Chronicles of Narnia have their share of violent moments. Rapunzel contains sexuality - it’s not graphic, but it’s certainly there. The prince doesn’t climb her hair merely to have tea with her in her tower. (In the original, she becomes pregnant out of wedlock. I’ve forgotten how the modern version resolves the ending.) The moral of the story of Rapunzel is that you can’t protect your children from the world - instead, you have to teach them how to look after themselves. That moral loses its force in the candy-coated versions in which nothing bad ever happens to Rapunzel.

 

[sauce]

Seems to me that the peaceful level-headed folk here are the ones who don’t mind a little sex & violence in their art, and that the censors are the ones getting all bent out of shape and resorting to ad hominem or tu quoque in their posts. I thought fleeing from impure artwork is supposed to make one more serene, no? My experience in the world tells me no.

Anyhoo, I saw “Inglourious Basterds” last weekend and absolutely loved it – violence and all. didn’t make me homicidal. Now, sitting through BBC’s mini-series of “Sense and Sensibility” – that occasioned homi/suicidal thoughts.

– N.

Glad to see you aboard, “Pittsburgh.” Things get wild when you bring “art” into it.
Not everything that’s made is automatically art. I understand the process. The craftsman
has an obligation to bring his ideas to fruition. Many choices to make. Sometimes the choices stink. But I find it’s the intention that counts. In the early days of film the Europeans used to bring Gestalt therapy into it. The moving image had an impact on the viewer. I guess they were trying to figure it out. I’m a fan of Slavko Vorkapich who
introduced montage to the Americans. His 3 minutes of prologue to the film
“Crime without Passion” is classic. Haven’t seen it in what seems like a million years.

I still think that “Valley of the Dolls” is a scream. It’s so bad it’s good. And Patty Duke
does her star turn. "Neely! Neely O’Hara!!

 

[rpp]

is that
Tale of Two Cities is about? the Fr Rev?

i may watch it… on your recommendation…

yes, they knew how to make movies in the old days…

thanks for the recommend…

Yes, it is about the French Revolution. And it is an excellent movie based on the Dickens book. I think you will enjoy it very much.

 

[rpp]

Any thoughts then on “The Passion of Christ”, or Clint’s latest “Grand Torino”?

The Passion of the Christ sends a different message. However, it was very violent and I had to repeatedly turn away. I think the story could have been told in a less graphic manner and still have the impact it did.

I saw Grand Torino and I did not care for it. And the violence was too graphic. There were certainly ways to tell the story without the graphic details. We all know what happens when a person gets shot.