Name the worst movies ever made

[Lost_Wanderer]

You seem to be utterly unable to get it. There is no need for graphic violence or sexual suggestiveness to tell a story.

Actually your posts suggest otherwise. Why do I smell oversensitivity here?

The Passion of the Christ sends a different message. However, it was very violent and I had to repeatedly turn away. I think the story could have been told in a less graphic manner and still have the impact it did.

Nope. I’ve never seen more powerful depictions of Christ’s death than the ones that are most violent. The kiddie Bible cartoons that skip over the whole thing definitely don’t have this impact I assure you. I’ve watched them both.

The Passion of the Christ definitely reached that high level of impact. I remember my classmates crying while watching and no movie has ever made me more contemplative of His sacrifice.

It is possible to make a good movie with a strong message, without resorting to violence and sexuality, as long as the characters in the story are neither passionate nor sexual.

Good point. My only gripe against the use of sex and violence is when it is done tastelessly and it doesn’t match the scenario (something I find plenty of ‘adult’ cartoons to be guilty of).

However, a lot of the really great stories do contain violence - David and Goliath, Joshua and the Battle of Jericho, Noah’s Ark, and even Sleeping Beauty, all contain violence as integral elements of the story. It would be difficult to portray them realistically, without showing at least some blood. Even The Chronicles of Narnia have their share of violent moments. Rapunzel contains sexuality - it’s not graphic, but it’s certainly there. The prince doesn’t climb her hair merely to have tea with her in her tower. (In the original, she becomes pregnant out of wedlock. I’ve forgotten how the modern version resolves the ending.) The moral of the story of Rapunzel is that you can’t protect your children from the world - instead, you have to teach them how to look after themselves. That moral loses its force in the candy-coated versions in which nothing bad ever happens to Rapunzel.

Exactly. I agree especially with the last part. I notice a lot of fairy tales seem to have lost their original literary value because of the butchery executed by the likes of Disney. I’m sure they’re good and all but when is it about time the grown-ups got back the originals and stop eating this candy? I don’t get why people insist we partake of the same entertainment that’s only meant for children.

 

[bextah]

I’m as “intelligent” as most, more so than some… i dare say

and i disagree… I’ve found that things i watch affect me… and they can distance you from Christ… and i never really KNOW how distanced i am until i do something like pray the rosary or go to Church…

so if a person is going to watch this icky, trashy cr** … ***at least do something like that afterwards… immediately afterwards… ***Warning: You probably won’t WANT to, though…

because you will be in “worldly mode”…

Yes you have made mention of how you are more intelligent than some on a couple of occasions now…

Of course movies can affect you, but you need to look at WHY they affect you.
I like to look behind the feelings when I feel bad after a film because at the end of the day it IS just a film, it’s not true to life.

Yes, sometimes I feel there is too much violence, such as SAW, or a moral issue as in ‘Ine the Company of Men’

Sometimes it’s both - Wolf Creek is about the murder of some backpackers, it is in the outback where I have lived and visited, and even though it is not a true story, it made me reflect on the fact this has happened out there, and encouraged me to pray for the souls lost and taken in such a way.

Movies don’t make me feel like I am better than God, they let me reflect on my beliefs if I can gather a message from them, if not then they are a waste of time

 

[holy_moly]

The Passion of the Christ sends a different message. However, it was very violent and I had to repeatedly turn away. I think the story could have been told in a less graphic manner and still have the impact it did.

I saw Grand Torino and I did not care for it. And the violence was too graphic. There were certainly ways to tell the story without the graphic details. We all know what happens when a person gets shot.

In The Passion, the graphic nature of what happened to our Lord is important for us to understand in a tiny way, the true nature of His sufferings for us. Did you notice the parallel in Gran Torino- Clint (maybe a bit of a messiah complex) dying for those he had come to love? I don’t think the blood was too gory or that there was too much violence, BUT the over-use of ‘f-bombs’ was gratuitous at best & certainly over done for my virgin ears!

 

[bextah]

Can you really be serious when you insult decency and glorify filth?

We are ALL called to be saints. What are you doing to help yourself to that goal?

I really don’t see how LostWanderer liking movies that are a bit darker insults decency or glorifies filth

I stand by the idea that a film is an idea, ‘art’ if you will, a story. Sometimes it is confronting, sometimes inane but it is somebody’s expression (That is not to say you have to agree with the message or approve of the delivery).

(If we are going to talk decency and filth, I have an issue with all of these ‘reality’ shows that treat marriage like a game show or focus on the most shallow, physical characteristics - humankind’s ugliest side.)

I personally take movies on their artistic merit, their message and the values they promote to make a decision about how I feel about it.

I don’t have a problem keeping an open mind to see a film, I will worry when something as flimsy as a film impacts on my value system.

I have agreed with many of LostWanderer’s points, and I don’t like the notion that I am moving away from my faith because of the movies I watch. God knows what it is in my heart.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

By decency you mean the heavily edited and censored (a.k.a. butchered) or simply the overly sugary and fluffy (a.k.a. childish)?

Either way, I’ll stick with something that has more literary value thanks. I grew up for that. Even the original Little Mermaid and Peter Pan were a lot darker than what good 'ol Walt would’ve wanted you to admit.

And just cuz I ain’t planning on getting myself canonized don’t mean I’m some amoral dirt bag. I just don’t like living in a bubble is all.

Dirty words are the product of a feeble mind.

Why do you fight so hard against decency?

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Dirty words are the product of a feeble mind.

Why do you fight so hard against decency?

Oh really? Tell that to Eminem.
Better yet, tell that to the more expert rappers out there who can pull a rhyme about you just by looking at ya.

Dirty words can be quite poetic and be an interesting language of their own depending on the individual saying them. I personally loved listening to the final rap battles in 8 Mile because it was so reflective of the urban decay I’ve associated with the hip-hop culture.

 

[rpp]

sigh

This thread has really degenerated. And yes, I admit I played my part which I now regret.

Can we all simply agree to disagree, please, and move on?

How about Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. Now THAT was a terrible movie.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

You seem to be utterly unable to get it. There is no need for graphic violence or sexual suggestiveness to tell a story. When a person is exposed to this, they become jaded and numbed to the deleterious effects these images and themes project. Your responses are PROOF that this is correct.

Your signature says you are a “learning Catholic”. Perhaps you should start listening and learning on this. The Catholic Faith is not just about what you do on Sunday morning.

Amen. We are called to be transformed in the Holy Spirit.

As a convert and sinner, this isn’t always easy for me. I can’t watch a lot of the things I used to, nor listen to the same music.

But it shocks me to see Catholics argue in favor of indecency. Dirty words are just dirty, and you are actively collaborating with Satan when you employ them.

Any indecently-told story can NOT be considered ‘art.’ The Age of Consent, written by Robert H. Knight, depicts this brilliantly. It’s how Hollywood has managed to make indecency a part of our lives.

And we let it happen.

It’s almost as though everything that comes out of Hollywood is the ‘worst.’ That said, there are plenty of ‘enjoyable’ bad movies.

 

[cthulhubryan]

1. Plan Nine from Outer Space (by the worst director of all time)
2. Starship Troopers

Starship Troopers was heresy to the original book by Heinlein, but as a pulp SF movie it was OK.

I walked out of, and got my money back for, Omen 666 that my teenager HAD to see. Well, she got to see almost 5 minutes of it.

Clerks 3 was terrible. Stopped the dvd less than 15 minutes into it.

Blair Witch Project: Great web site, terrific back story with enough really interesting material enough to make 2 or 3 movies from but then the movie inhaled sharply.

Casino. Ick.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

But it shocks me to see Catholics argue in favor of indecency. Dirty words are just dirty, and you are actively collaborating with Satan when you employ them.

Show me where in the Catechism that states profanity is sinful. The closest you’ll get is with regards to the Second Commandment.

Where does it say in the Bible that says words like BS or FU are demonic? I doubt you’ll find it. The words weren’t invented back then.

You see your problem is that you’re a little ignorant of how words obtain connotations. That’s what I’ve learned in my linguistics class. Profanity, I’m afraid, is relative. I could call you “gago” out of irritation but how is that profanity when it is spoken outside my native land where you guys don’t know what the word means and are therefore, not impacted by it?

 

[distracted]

Where does it say in the Bible that says words like BS or FU are demonic? I doubt you’ll find it. The words weren’t invented back then.

actually there are plenty of scriptures that address this:

there’s the one that says Whatever is just and true and pure (etc,) think on these things…

and then there is “Faith without works is dead”…

while you are sitting around wasting time (which is a sin that is mentioned in the catechism) watching trash… unborn babies are being murdered… people are dying and going to Hell…

You can’t serve 2 masters, as Jesus said… Either you will love the one and hate the other or vice versa…

you can’t have one foot in the world and one in Heaven… God isn’t going to take part of you to Heaven with him…

without holiness it is impossible to please God…

our minds and bodies and souls must be holy… and your mind is NOT holy if you are filling it wiht spiritual garbage… smut… violence…

jesus said he who does not gather with me scatters…

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

while you are sitting around wasting time (which is a sin that is mentioned in the catechism) watching trash… unborn babies are being murdered… people are dying and going to Hell…

You can’t serve 2 masters, as Jesus said… Either you will love the one and hate the other or vice versa…

Gimme a break, I know tons of pro-life conservatives who swear. You don’t have to be a pure, meek little lamb to fight for a good cause. In fact, why don’t I shoot that question back at you? Instead of crying over petty things like how people talk, shouldn’t you be protesting a Planned Parenthood clinic? -_-

 

[rpp]

sigh

This thread has really degenerated. And yes, I admit I played my part which I now regret.

Can we all simply agree to disagree, please, and move on?

How about Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. Now THAT was a terrible movie.

Hello? Is anyone listening? I acknowledge my fault in this. Can we get back to the topic?

How about Attack of the Giant Rabbits?

 

[cthulhubryan]

The Last Boyscout.

 

[HarmonyServant]

Let’s see … bad movies…

1. Not Another Teen Movie - bad parody movie is bad.
2. Dogma - I’ve nothing good to say about this one. Blatantly anti-Catholic.
3. The Saw series - ewwwwwww!

 

[cthulhubryan]

Let’s see … bad movies…

1. Not Another Teen Movie - bad parody movie is bad.
2. Dogma - I’ve nothing good to say about this one. Blatantly anti-Catholic.
3. The Saw series - ewwwwwww!

Dogma, the anti-Catholic movie that cannot get a single point of theology right.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Let’s see … bad movies…

1. Not Another Teen Movie - bad parody movie is bad.
2. Dogma - I’ve nothing good to say about this one. Blatantly anti-Catholic.
3. The Saw series - ewwwwwww!

I agree with your last one. My customers watched that movie at full volume and I couldn’t stand the screaming because it was so… tasteless.

And this was supposed to be the best of the slasher genre? I guess no wonder they’re really just trash. Why do people waste their money making pointless gore fests like that?

 

[HarmonyServant]

My thoughts exactly. I don’t mind suspenseful horror movies, ('Oh, no! What’s behind that door?!), but the gory ones are just … I dunno, I don’t see the point of them. The shock value? Whatever happened to good ole suspense?

Oh! Thought of another bad movie. Dragon Wars! :banghead: Hubby and I made fun of that movie out loud in the theatre and no one else cared because they were making fun of it too.

 

[WinterWH]

“Reds”

“Jumanji”

 

[WinterWH]

It depends on what you mean by “Christian”. I have seen a lot of good movies that, although they don’t beat you over the head with the Gospel, they certainly embody an understanding of death, resurrection and ascension.

I was going to give an example, but I don’t want to derail the thread.

As far as the world’s worst movies go, Lord of War with Nicholas Cage has got to be the most boring movie I’ve ever seen in my entire life. I was amazed to see that it won an award for excellence in film-making. I turned it off in the middle and went to bed, because it was literally putting me to sleep. (I am not very easy to bore - I have stared down my cat, and I have watched paint dry.)

It’s interesting how they give medals and trophies to one another in the name of “art” and “craft”.

Only the lawyers do a better job of self-congratulation and the lawyers do it with large amounts of cash and political patronage.